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Rams have signed Austin Davis to active roster. Brady Quinn has agreed to terms.
Jim Thomas @jthom1 6m
Rams have signed Austin Davis to active roster. Brady Quinn has agreed to terms.
Rams worked out Brady Quinn and Tyler Thigpen and perhaps others. They're signing Quinn. and we'll see if they add another QB too.
No Tebowmania for us.
I guess that makes many here happy.
Maybe this is Davis or Quinn's shot at redemption, with a chance to write themselves into Rams lore with a "Warner-esque" type of season.
Or maybe they'll sit on the bench while Clemens leads us into the top 5 of the 2014 draft.
I'll still take all three over Tebow. All day, every day.
Not a great believer in Fisher/Snead as personnel guys but I think this combo is as good as it could get under the circumstances. The two offer different strengths that could be strategically useful.
Davis knows the scheme so he protects the team from a crisis if KC goes down before BQ has a chance to learn anything which, given KC's style of play, is a distinct possibility. Quinn has the experience (esp at playing under center), a stronger arm & better size than AD, but AD may prove to be better under pressure both mentally & physically,imo, & more accurate. Depending on how the the other parts of the O (mal)function, those differing skill sets could help The Rams cope with other problems that affect QB productivity. And they both offer potential ways to maximize strengths in the O that develop. BQ doesn't have to be that accurate if TA can get open deep like he did vs CAR but he needs more pass pro than AD. The Rams have the quick WRs and pass-catching TEs/RBs in theory to run a really effective WCO if the OL regresses/gets injured for which AD's mobile improv style would be better,imo, but those guys need to be reliable; if you only move the ball in short hops, you can't miss chances & keep ahead of the sticks, right ?
Davis knows the scheme so it was almost a given he would be back. Quinn inspires no more confidence in me than Clemons already has at this point. The FA list at the position was weak though, so what else is there to do? Trading for a QB doesn't make much sense to me, so this is about as good as it's going to get.
I remember wanting the Rams to have a shot at Brady Quinn when he first came out of college. I guess I would have hoped for better circumstances.
was rooting for leinart, say what you will about him but i've heard it all lol
he's a trojan and i'd love to see a successful redemption, like anyone would
but i guess his work ethic hasn't changed
In my opinion, Quinn was the best option of the names that were thrown out there- and that in no way is meant to heap praise on Quinn, only to illustrate the dearth of quality back-ups out there.
Davis being signed to the practice squad makes sense due to his familiarity with the offense. Maybe the guy will get on the active roster and surprise us.
I don't believe Tim Tebow will ever play another down in the NFL. He was a great college player and a top notch human being, but if Jacksonville- a terrible team looking to sell tickets in his home state of Florida- didn't sign him, it doesn't speak well of his future chances of ever making it to an NFL roster.
Clemens. Davis. Quinn. Let's move forward. :ram:
Sam, you get well soon amigo, fully recovered. http://manifestlife.com/images/ar12-l.gif
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Brady Quinn, Austin Davis set to join St. Louis Rams
By Chris Wesseling, NFL / Around the League Writer
Published: October 22, 2013 at 05:38 p.m.
Updated: Oct. 22, 2013 at 07:31 p.m.
In the wake of Sam Bradford's season-ending ACL injury, the St. Louis Rams were left with Kellen Clemens as the only quarterback on the roster.
The prospect of watching Clemens for nine more games is generating the "internal enthusiasm of two-a-day training camp practices in the heat and humidity," NFL Media columnist Michael Silver recently wrote.
The front office's search for alternatives turned up a host of names including Brady Quinn and former Rams developmental project Austin Davis.
A source with knowledge of the team's thinking told NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport on Tuesday that the Rams plan to add both Quinn and Davis to their 53-man roster. The plan is fluid, depending on the availability of other quarterbacks.
The two choices are uninspired to say the least.
The Rams could have taken a chance on Vince Young or Tim Tebow, each of whom has proven capable of winning games at the NFL level.
It's hard to blame coach Jeff Fisher for ruling out a return bout with Young's soap opera. Tebow was discussed internally, but was ostensibly shot down as a legitimate candidate because no NFL team is willing to welcome the circus to town.
St. Louis fans will instead be subjected to Quinn, quickly becoming the patron saint of lost seasons. He and Clemens have combined for an 8-24 (25 percent) career record compared with 39-25 (60.9 percent) for Young and Tebow.
Sporting one of the NFL's youngest rosters, the Rams realize their 2013 hopes have been dashed against the rocks by Bradford's injury. For the next two months, Quinn and Clemens will toe the company line and ensure a high draft pick for Bradford's 2014 return.
Of course, I don't agree with the V. Young alternative mentioned above. :|
BTW, an anatomical review of Sam's season ending injury type, or, why we now have Clemens, Davis & Brady.
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Torn ACL & Surgery Recovery Time
Medical Author: Benjamin C. Wedro, MD, FAAEM
Medical Editor: Melissa Conrad Stöppler, MD
Do people appreciate how amazing it is that Philip Rivers (quarterback for the San Diego Chargers) played on Sun., Jan. 20, 2008, just six days after having arthroscopic surgery? Aside from the fact that he likely had some cartilage debris cleaned out and the rehab time is measured in weeks, he still had a torn anterior cruciate ligament(ACL).
For regular people and pseudo-athletes, the days after arthroscopic knee surgery are spent reducing knee swelling and starting range-of-motion exercises. This process is hampered by a couple of physiologic barriers.
When the knee is invaded, the muscles around it tend to shut down involuntarily. The quadriceps muscle in the front of the thigh tends to get immediately weaker, and since it is one of the stabilizing muscles of the knee, it is a big deal when this muscle decides not to work. The next barrier has to do with hydraulics. The knee joint has its largest volume of fluid when it's flexed at 15 degrees. When there is even a little fluid, straightening it out combats the law of physics that says "you can't compress fluids."
Rivers gets out of surgery and presumably hops into the training room and is attacked by the physical therapists. Appreciate that for mere mortals, physical therapists can be kind and gentle, but when they want the patient to do something, they can become relentless therapists. Pushing the body to its limits is not something regular patients do. Putting it into perspective, a routine course of rehabilitation in the first week might have a patient trying to get the pedals on a stationary bicycle to go around without resistance...once.
But not only does Mr. Rivers have to get his range of motion back, he also needs to get his quadriceps muscles refired, start weight lifting, and begin walking/running on his knee. Oh, by the way, we didn't forget that he has a torn ACL that will continue to cause problems with all these activities. And then in less than a week, he performs in a brutal game at an elite level.
The body is capable of some wonderful things. I am amazed by marathoners who run sub-five-minute miles and skiers who go downhill at 70 mph, but I am also amazed by patients who have their chests opened for cardiac bypass surgery and leave the hospital in four or five days.
Medicine tends to experiment on elite athletes because their drive can overcome perceived hurdles to recovery. We see what the body is capable of doing, and then we make regular people do what we thought was unthinkable.
How amazing is that?
Anterior Cruciate Ligament (ACL) Surgery
Surgery for anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injuries involves reconstructing or repairing the ACL.
* ACL reconstruction surgery uses a graft to replace the ligament. The most common grafts are autografts using part of your own body, such as the tendon of the kneecap (patellar tendon) or one of the hamstring tendons. Another choice is allograft tissue, which is taken from a deceased donor.
* Repair surgery generally is only used in the case of an avulsion fracture (a separation of the ligament and a piece of the bone from the rest of the bone). In this case, the bone fragment connected to the ACL is reattached to the bone.
ACL surgery is done by making small incisions in the knee and inserting instruments for surgery through these incisions (arthroscopic surgery) or by cutting a large incision in the knee (open surgery).
ACL surgeries are done by orthopedic surgeons.
Many orthopedic surgeons use arthroscopic surgery rather than open surgery for ACL injuries because:
* It is easy to see and work on the knee structures.
* It uses smaller incisions than open surgery.
* It can be done at the same time as diagnostic arthroscopy (using arthroscopy to determine the injury or damage to the knee).
* It may have fewer risks than open surgery.
Arthroscopic surgery is performed under regional (such as spinal) anesthesia or general anesthesia.
During arthroscopic ACL reconstruction, the surgeon makes several small incisions-usually two or three- around the knee. Sterile saline (salt) solution is pumped into the knee through one incision to expand it and to wash blood from the area. This allows the doctor to see the knee structures more clearly.
The surgeon inserts an arthroscope into one of the other incisions. A camera at the end of the arthroscope transmits pictures from inside the knee to a TV monitor in the operating room.
Surgical drills are inserted through other small incisions. The surgeon drills small holes into the upper and lower leg bones where these bones come close together at the knee joint. The holes form tunnels through which the graft will be anchored.
The surgeon will make another incision in the knee and take the graft (replacement tissue) at this point. If it comes from the tendon at the front of the knee, it will include two small pieces of bone called "bone blocks" on the ends of the tissue. One piece of bone is taken from the kneecap and the other piece is taken from a part of the lower leg bone near the knee joint. If the autograft comes from the hamstring, bone blocks are not taken. The graft may also be taken from a deceased donor (allograft).
See a picture of a bone and tissue graft camera.
The graft is pulled through the two tunnels that were drilled in the upper and lower leg bones. The surgeon secures the graft with hardware such as screws or staples and will close the incisions with stitches or tape. The knee is bandaged, and you are taken to the recovery room for 2 to 3 hours.
During ACL surgery, the surgeon may repair other injured parts of the knee as well, such as ligaments, cartilage, or broken bones.
What To Expect After Surgery
Arthroscopic surgery is often done on an outpatient basis, which means that you do not spend a night in the hospital. Other surgery may require staying in the hospital for a couple of days.
To care for your incision while it heals, you need to keep it clean and dry and watch for signs of infection.
Physical rehabilitation after ACL surgery may take several months to a year. The length of time until you can return to normal activities or sports is different for every person. It may range from 4 to 6 months.
Why It Is Done
The goal of ACL surgery is to restore normal or almost normal stability in the knee and the level of function you had before the knee injury, limit loss of function in the knee, and prevent injury or degeneration to other knee structures.
Not all ACL tears require surgery. You and your doctor will decide whether rehabilitation (rehab) only or surgery plus rehab is right for you.
You may choose to have surgery if you:
* Have completely torn your ACL or have a partial tear and your knee is very unstable.
* Have gone through a rehab program and your knee is still unstable.
* Are very active in sports or have a job that requires knee strength and stability (such as construction work), and you want your knee to be as strong and stable as it was before your injury.
* Are willing to complete a long and rigorous rehab program.
* Have chronic ACL deficiency that is affecting your quality of life.
* Have injured other parts of your knee, such as the cartilage or meniscus, or other knee ligaments or tendons.
Bone and knee tissue graft:
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You may choose not to have surgery if you:
* Have a minor tear in your ACL (a tear that can heal with rest and rehab).
* Are not very active in sports and your work does not require a stable knee.
* Are willing to stop doing activities that require a stable knee or stop doing them at the same level of intensity. You may choose to substitute other activities that don't require a stable knee, such as cycling or swimming.
* Can complete a rehab program that stabilizes your knee and strengthens your leg muscles to reduce the chances that you will injure your knee again and are willing to live with a small amount of knee instability.
* Do not feel motivated to complete the long and rigorous rehab program necessary after surgery.
* You have medical problems that make surgery too risky.
Source: WebMD / HealthWise
A List Of Every NFL Player Who Has Suffered A Torn ACL So Far This Season
By Eric Goldschein / Sports Grid
October 22nd, 2013
It’s not a fun time to be a knee ligament in the NFL. This past weekend we saw two big names go down for the season thanks to ACL tears — Sam Bradford of the Rams and Reggie Wayne of the Colts. For Bradford, the injury could mean his starting job is in jeopardy; for Wayne, it might be his career.
This summer in training camp and preseason we saw a high number of ACL tears — enough that people were grumbling about the practice limitations placed on the league by the new labor deal. Whether or not there’s anything to those claims, we’ll have to wait and see.
Thanks to Reddit user InheritTheWind for compiling this list:
Torn ACL count to date: 38
LB Victor Butler (NO)
OL Dan Koppen (DEN)
DE Melvin Ingram (SD)
DE Greg Scruggs (SEA)
CB Aaron Berry (NYJ)
LB Jonas Mouton (SD)
WR Jeremy Maclin (PHI)
WR Armon Binns (MIA)
LB Darius Fleming (SF)
LB Jason Phillips (PHI)
FB Mike Zordich (CAR)
OL Bryan Bulaga (GB)
CB Chris Culliver (SF)
WR Arrelious Benn (PHI)
WR Danario Alexander <---- !!! (SD)
WR Joseph Morgan (NO)
WR Vidal Hazleton (NYJ)
DE Phillip Hunt (PHI)
WR Keolah Pilares (CAR)
WR Kevin Elliott (BUF)
TE Dustin Keller (MIA)
CB Richard Crawford (WAS)
DE Will Smith (NO)
FS Stevie Brown (NYG)
OL Maurkice Pouncey (PIT)
RB LaRod Stephens-Howling (PIT)
OL Garry Williams (CAR)
DT Henry Melton (CHI)
RB Vick Ballard (IND)
DT Nate Collins (CHI)
OL Amini Silatolu (CAR)
QB Brian Hoyer (CLE)
LB Bryan Kehl (WAS)
WR Charles Johnson (CLE)
RB Mike Goodson (NYJ)
LB Desmond Bishop (MIN)
QB Sam Bradford (STL)
WR Reggie Wayne (IND)
As a reminder, the anterior cruciate ligament is one of four main ligaments in the knee. There are other important ligaments, such as the LCL — injuries to which are not listed here but have also ended the seasons of players like Brian Cushing.
Felt bad but not surprised to see Danario Alexander in the above list with yet another knee injury. Wow.