Yeah, that's a great message to send...if you want to strive for mediocrity.
Better the team, like Moss bettered the Raiders and Vikings?
This team clearly believes in the system and the plan. Randy Moss is not a part of this ...
You remind me of the fan sitting behind me at the Dome Sunday. No matter what play was made, they found something wrong with almost every single one ...
If the Rams win 8, you'll complain they missed the playoffs. The make the playoffs, you'll complain they didn't make the NFC championship game. They go to the Super Bowl, you'll complain if they lose. They win the Super Bowl, you'll complain if they don't repeat ....
But congrats, you are the forums most negative poster and until they win the Super Bowl they will be mediocre ...
If Steve Spagnuolo is supposed to be this solid coach who can keep his team on task, he can handle Moss for 8 (plus) games. Additionally, if those players you mentioned cannot continue to be role models, they weren't models to begin with.
As for our own initial post-Linehan purge, I'd better describe it as jettisoning incompetent players than jettisoning quitters. We kept the honest to God "quitters" at first and got rid of the guys who couldn't flat out play. Or did you miss the part where we gave Alex Barron one last season under Spagnuolo.
Personally, I believe leadership and setting the tone for the franchise begins from the top. If the front office is effectively saying "Wait until next year" by putting off everything until the draft (including chances to easily plug a major hole on the relative cheap), what should these "YOUNG, IMPRESSIONABLE" players take away from that. That is besides concluding that if the front office doesn't care about the season, they shouldn't either. We aren't sending a message about trying to build a winner, we're sending a message that its ok to not try your best to win when the opportunity presents itself.
Ah Moss isn't a quitter, he's just misunderstood by his previous coaches.
Simple question. Does he fit DeSpags 4 pillars requirement?
I think this will tell it all.
I say Spags lets this one roll under the carpet.
Yahoo! Sports' Michael Silver reports that Randy Moss' "boorish" behavior in a locker room incident last Friday contributed to the Vikings' decision to cut him loose.
A favorite local restaurant catered the Vikings' buffet Friday. Moss went up to the table and yelled, "What the [expletive]? Who ordered this crap? I wouldn't feed this to my dog!" Per the St. Paul Pioneer-Press, the room got quite except for one player who said, "Shut the (expletive) up, Randy." Brett Favre even shot Moss the stink eye. The Vikes also had concerns about Moss' poisonous attitude rubbing off on Percy Harvin. Coach Brad Childress reportedly explained, "This just doesn't fit with how we treat people, how we talk to people and how we act."
Honestly i don't see the harm in getting Randy Moss
Put it this way we have strong leadership in Steven Jackson and Sam Bradford. The players are really buying into the coaching and are playing well for spags.
We have money and if Moss doesnt pan out just cut him like the vikes did (we dont lose a draft pick for it thou)
It will only be for 8 weeks (hopefully more) we are currently on a bye let Moss learn the offense and run his deep routes. If successful it would be great we dont even have to sign him at the end of the year.
Moss is not a 4 pillar player but this can be a worthy experiment to see if we do have strong leadership and coaching in place.
Also Moss will be motivated! He is a free agent and he probably wants more than T.O. money. So here is his chance to show that he deserves it he gets another shot.
I just dont want Moss rubbing off on any of our young players, as it was on Harvin.
This is my opinion on Moss, get him. We pick him up, pay him 3 million and see how it pans out. I think that Sjax will keep him from poisoning the locker room, and if he does then you cut him. No skin off our backs. For those who say he didn't help the Vikings I ask you this, did you look at Percy Harvin's stats after Moss joined the team? That's what he gives the Rams. Amendola and our Te's will kill the middle of the field while Moss takes the top off the D. Not to mention it opens up for SJ too. Worst case Scenario: Moss is a doucher and we cut him after paying him 3 million. Best Case Scenario: Moss plays really well, Bradford finally has a deep threat, our offense is dynamic enough to make a playoff push this year. Like I said that's just my opinion.
Maybe this is why they've passed on V.J. and hopefully will pass on Moss ....
Contrary to how you feel, I am sure this team believes they can win and have a shot, and they do. Gibson is developing nicely, Laurent played well yesterday, these guys who have been here working hard since day one and have grown to believe in the team, they deserve the shot, not a malcontent misfit like Moss ...
Front offices with no vision use 30 something band aids to build contenders. This team is trying to mold its own personality with young, hungry talent ...
If the team goes that route I will support it, but I don't see it. I have a good idea of what this team's vision is. You can see it on the field ...
This team is what it is right now. It's not an overnight Super Bowl contended, but it can win this division as is ...
Spags said that when the four pillars philosophy was in place, there's room to bring in one or two who don't quite make those standards. So if he feels Moss is worth the go then that's good enough for me.
On the other hand...
The Vikings have potentially thrown away a lot of money and a third round pick for this guy. I'm not convinced that's simply because he dissed a local restaurant owner. Likely there's more to this one which has stayed behind closed doors. Again, that's for our management to judge.