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    Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Rams’ Spagnuolo not second-guessing decisions

    By R.B. FALLSTROM, AP Sports Writer
    13 hours, 16 minutes ago

    ST. LOUIS (AP)—A day after a three-point loss to the Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo declined to second-guess decisions that factored into the defeat.

    Spagnuolo said on Monday that he still would have burned more than a half-minute off the clock at the end of the first half and settled for a field goal, and he still would have punted on fourth-and-1 late in the fourth quarter and counted on a defense that had given up huge chunks of yards on the ground to get the ball back.

    Instead of going for the big plays, the Rams played not to lose.

    Spagnuolo is 10-33 with five games to go in his third season. It’s a challenging stretch that could determine whether he keeps his job.

    The Rams (2-9) are 13-point underdogs at San Francisco this week and, counting the rematch in the season finale against the *****, the next five opponents are a combined 38-17.

    “Do you mean, how do I handle this San Francisco game right here this week?” Spagnuolo said. “You guys know how I’m wired.”

    The coach believes players are still buying in, if a bit beat down.

    “You have to forget about it and move on, but as a competitor they’re going to really get under your skin,” middle linebacker James Laurinaitis said. “I hate losing, I hate losing, and am never going to get used to losing.

    “Nobody should in this locker room, in this organization.”

    There’s no looking back for Spagnuolo. He wouldn’t have taken a few more shots at the end zone and tried to give the Rams a 14-3 cushion before halftime. He had to be talked into allowing one try before bringing on the field goal unit.

    “It was a conservative approach, no question,” Spagnuolo said. “And you could have gone another way.”

    In this case, Spagnuolo got the sense the offense was reeling. After Brandon Lloyd’s 26-yard reception to the 3 with 43 seconds left in the first half, the Rams went in reverse with a botched play call that resulted in a false-start penalty but easily could have been whistled for delay of game, and Sam Bradford was sacked for a 9-yard loss the next play.

    “Obviously, we put ourselves in a pretty bad situation,” Bradford said.

    Spagnuolo wouldn’t say what happened on the play from the 3, but indicated a lot had gone wrong.

    “There were a lot of things going on,” the coach said. “There were too many issues. We need to get that play off.”

    Spagnuolo also revealed he was thinking field goal right after Lloyd’s catch, going through “what if” scenarios in his mind that only got reinforced after two failures.

    “Do we want to get a touchdown? Yeah,” Spagnuolo said. “I was going to bring it all the way down and just kick it, but then there was conversation about `Let’s take a shot,’ and I thought that was OK thinking.”

    Spagnuolo’s scenario had the Rams building on the 7-point cushion. Instead, they got outscored 17-0 in the third quarter.

    As for the decision to punt on fourth-and-1 from the St. Louis 36 with 3:22 to go and three timeouts left, Spagnuolo said it was the right move. The Rams burned all the timeouts while giving up two first downs, and it was game over.

    “We position ourselves a lot of times, especially the last four or five weeks, to win the games,” running back Steven Jackson said. “We keep coming up short.”

    Confidence in a defense that surrendered its second franchise record this season was misplaced. Beanie Wells had 228 yards with an 8.4-yard average, following the lead of Dallas’ DeMarco Murray, who had 253 yards last month.

    Spagnuolo had no qualms about deciding to punt on fourth-and-1 in the third quarter from the St. Louis 30. The decision became academic after C.J. Ah You was penalized for a false start, and the play resulted in Patrick Peterson’s fourth punt return for a touchdown this season to tie an NFL record.

    “I know in hindsight he returns it for a touchdown, so shame on me,” Spagnuolo said. “I just don’t think you take that chance.”

    One positive from the setback is there are very few injury concerns.

    Safety Darian Stewart was sent home suffering from concussion-like symptoms. Bradford aggravated his high left ankle sprain and was sore, but could be fine for practice Wednesday.

    Punter Donnie Jones turned his left ankle after getting blocked on Peterson’s punt return but is expected to be OK.

    Wide receiver Danario Alexander, the top deep threat, could return this week after missing five weeks with a hamstring injury.


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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    “I hate losing, I hate losing, and am never going to get used to losing.
    Unfortunately, I think I speak for almost everybody here when I say we are pretty used to it!
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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    Spagnuolo also revealed he was thinking field goal right after Lloyd’s catch, going through “what if” scenarios in his mind that only got reinforced after two failures.

    “Do we want to get a touchdown? Yeah,” Spagnuolo said. “I was going to bring it all the way down and just kick it, but then there was conversation about `Let’s take a shot,’ and I thought that was OK thinking.”
    This is probably the worst quote I have ever heard from a coach! 46 seconds left in the half from the 3 yard line and SS is content running the clock down for a field goal?? He had to be convinced to "take a shot." I've really tried to stay positive with Spags cause I like him a lot, but that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I'm read to join the P.A.S.S.

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    General Custer was know for his stubborn"ish" attitude. He was certain his corp of 225 men could beat the Sioux, no matter the number. He brazenly split his men into three columns and well the rest is history. He was certain he made the right choice and was not one to ever admit to an error. May he rest in peace.

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Quote Originally Posted by GolfnRAMFAN View Post
    This is probably the worst quote I have ever heard from a coach! 46 seconds left in the half from the 3 yard line and SS is content running the clock down for a field goal?? He had to be convinced to "take a shot." I've really tried to stay positive with Spags cause I like him a lot, but that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I'm read to join the P.A.S.S.
    Agree with you completely. There was a thread titled something along the lines of a "Final Nail in the coffin" Well, for Spags to say he was going for the field goal the split second we landed on the three yard line with almost a minute left in the half...........? That is a railroad spike! What more does Kroenke need to help him make a decision?

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Ignorance is bliss for Spags.

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    He still will not get it through his thick scull, that a TD there, and we probably win the game.?
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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Sticking to your convictions is one thing; stubbornly refusing to make adjustments and re-evaluate an approach that doesn't work is entirely different- and will be the undoing of Steve Spagnuolo in 5 weeks.

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    This is not even conservative football, this is just dumb football.

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
    Sticking to your convictions is one thing; stubbornly refusing to make adjustments and re-evaluate an approach that doesn't work is entirely different.
    Do his supporters not see him constantly do this week in and week out? Are they OK with the fact that his stubborn-conservative approach literally costs us games, or do they just not see it?

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Spags gets ripped for calls that are at least debatable, this however was one of the dumbest things I've seen in football. Who drives the ball down the field, only to plan and kick a FG on 2nd down with plenty of time left. We barely get in the red zone anymore, and this is what he decides to do? A TD would have given us 4 more points, and well we lost by 3.....

    I've started to doubt Bradford and McDaniels slightly this year, but if Spags has this much pull on being conservative, maybe it's all on him.

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Quote Originally Posted by md8 View Post
    Spags gets ripped for calls that are at least debatable, this however was one of the dumbest things I've seen in football. Who drives the ball down the field, only to plan and kick a FG on 2nd down with plenty of time left. We barely get in the red zone anymore, and this is what he decides to do? A TD would have given us 4 more points, and well we lost by 3.....

    I've started to doubt Bradford and McDaniels slightly this year, but if Spags has this much pull on being conservative, maybe it's all on him.
    It's a very unusual tactic. Especially when you factor in the problems that this team has had, just getting into the red zone.? Ill give Spags his due, for steadfastly sticking to what he believes in. But somewhere along the line, as the losses pile up, he must realize it isnt the common sense thing to do.?

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    Re: Rams' Spagnuolo Not Second-Guessing Decisions

    Hello Mr Spags? You there?

    7 is greater than 3.....!!!!!
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