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    The Rams "who just stood there''

    Cleveland Browns LT Joe Thomas expects the Lions' defense to show a little more than Rams "who just stood there''


    CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns left tackle Joe Thomas expects a little more from the Lions' defense tonight at FirstEnergy Stadium than he got from the Rams last week.

    "They were about as vanilla as you possibly could be last week, so it wasn’t a challenge at all figuring what we needed to do because they just stood there for us,'' Thomas said. "We're going to be playing a few more snaps than we did last time and we're going to see a little more complex defense."

    Last week, the Lions held the Jets to just 37 yards rushing in a 26-17 Detroit victory, and No. 5 overall pick Ziggy Ansah intercepted a Mark Sanchez pass and returned it 14 yards for a touchdowns.

    The Browns, meanwhile, put up 10 point in two series with quarterback Brandon Weeden at the helm. Weeden completed 10 of 13 attempts for 112 yards and a touchdown en route to a 27-19 victory over the Rams.

    "Obviously we’re going to get a different look at the defense, and it’s going to be interesting to see how we’re able to adjust when they bring a pressure or they play a different coverage or they do something that you’re going to see in a regular NFL game," said Thomas. "So it's trying to keep making progress and keep churning along."

    That's not to say Thomas thinks the Lions will be exotic tonight. Afterall, the two teams meet up again on Oct. 13 here.

    "Well, they will be vanilla, but they'll be less vanilla then they were last week,''said Thomas. "So instead of zero pressures and zero coverage changes we may get one out of every four plays, so neither team really game plans much, but they’re going to show a little bit more of their defense. We’re gonna probably show a little bit more of our offense. It’s just kind of baby steps at this point in the preseason.''

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher acknowledged he didn't show much at all against the Browns.

    "Yes, we stayed very basic and that was our intention," Fisher said after the game. "The first preseason game is never an indication of where you're at because there are so many things going on."

    Lions coach Jim Schwartz told reporters in Detroit that the teams squaring off again in the regular season is a factor.

    “That does come up,” he said. “There’s things that you sort of feel like you like against a defensive scheme or an offensive scheme that you don’t want to show. But over the course of the season, you’re going to show all those things anyway. The main thing is execution. You want guys communicating well, executing, and you want to see — and I’ve said this a bunch of times in preseason games — you want to see players win not scheme win.”


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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    I agree, we were pretty vanilla on defense.

    Then again, our young unit got work, nobody got hurt, and no other teams learned our plays and secrets.
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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    Jeezus!

    What did this twat expect us to play/reveal? Our playoff 'come from behind' 2 minute drill redzone offense????

    Ill tell you what, the browns opinions are about as significant as that same coloured stain that I get in my tidy whitey's (is that what you yanks call underwear?) after a weekends worth of camping in the same clothes.

    Move on, you boringly uniformed, no-one gives a hoot about your existence, porn girl legacy faced butt clowns!

    The Cleveland 'stains' have something to say? Really? Well, in other news I've been told that the earth revolves around the sun.

    Crap ground, crap team, crap outfit.
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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    Quote Originally Posted by UK Ramfan 83 View Post
    Jeezus!

    What did this twat expect us to play/reveal? Our playoff 'come from behind' 2 minute drill redzone offense????

    Ill tell you what, the browns opinions are about as significant as that same coloured stain that I get in my tidy whitey's (is that what you yanks call underwear?) after a weekends worth of camping in the same clothes.

    Move on, you boringly uniformed, no-one gives a hoot about your existence, porn girl legacy faced butt clowns!

    The Cleveland 'stains' have something to say? Really? Well, in other news I've been told that the earth revolves around the sun.

    Crap ground, crap team, crap outfit.
    I don't think he was criticizing the Rams as much as he was telling the truth. We didn't give them much real work due to the lack of a real NFL game plan. I think he wanted to get some work in before it counts and we just did not provide it.

    I keep reading pundits say just because you play vanilla you should be able to be productive. It's kind of hard to get off the field on 3rd down when you play soft coverage and don't bring any pressure and the other team knows it prior to the snap.
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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    I didn't take that as a dig at all. Rather, he was acknowledging that the Rams approached the game like a practice/walk-through, so you can't read too much into the outcome.
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    Being vanilla should not preclude from playing with solid fundamentals. Players should still be able to beat their man, shed blocks, fill gaps, tackle and cover. And there are no excuses for the sloppy special teams play that led to the punt return touchdown.
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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    Quote Originally Posted by Curly Horns View Post
    Being vanilla should not preclude from playing with solid fundamentals. Players should still be able to beat their man, shed blocks, fill gaps, tackle and cover. And there are no excuses for the sloppy special teams play that led to the punt return touchdown.
    Your absolutely right! That's why we stay vanilla. Does anyone think Ogletree can play like that two more games and still start on opening day? ST is made up of a lot of guys trying to make the team. We are going to have to find out who can fill those spots. We have 30 UDFA trying to prove they can do it, on that play I'm sure a few found out the clock is ticking on their NFL careers. It doesn't help when your second year punter out kicks his punt coverage, he corrected that on the next punt.

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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    Quote Originally Posted by Curly Horns View Post
    Being vanilla should not preclude from playing with solid fundamentals. Players should still be able to beat their man, shed blocks, fill gaps, tackle and cover. And there are no excuses for the sloppy special teams play that led to the punt return touchdown.
    You're right. Being vanilla gives Jeff & crew a look at his guys mano a mano. What is of importance, is that the coaching staff comes away with an accurate assessment of various players' skill sets as opposed to focusing on winning a game that doesn't count.

    The real criteria at this point in the preseason is to make sure that the best players on our (current) 90 man roster are cherry picked for the final 53 roster. I don't believe Jeff and crew have made any excuses for sloppy play. If anything, at this time of year, sloppy play/missed tackles, etc., are to be expected. Rather than conjuring up excuses, they are watching players' execution of "fundamentals" intently while providing opportunities for the "cream" (hope there's plenty) to rise to the top. When the coaches have to start pulling weeds on the way to a 53 man roster, they obviously want to be sure as is possible of their decisions. Vanilla is okay this time of year

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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    hmmm I guess we're a pretty good team because the score last week was Browns 27 Rams 19 this week Browns 24 Lions 6. LOL

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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiRam View Post
    You're right. Being vanilla gives Jeff & crew a look at his guys mano a mano. What is of importance, is that the coaching staff comes away with an accurate assessment of various players' skill sets as opposed to focusing on winning a game that doesn't count.

    The real criteria at this point in the preseason is to make sure that the best players on our (current) 90 man roster are cherry picked for the final 53 roster. I don't believe Jeff and crew have made any excuses for sloppy play. If anything, at this time of year, sloppy play/missed tackles, etc., are to be expected. Rather than conjuring up excuses, they are watching players' execution of "fundamentals" intently while providing opportunities for the "cream" (hope there's plenty) to rise to the top. When the coaches have to start pulling weeds on the way to a 53 man roster, they obviously want to be sure as is possible of their decisions. Vanilla is okay this time of year
    Exactly! You want a sneak peek of opening day?

    The Rams "who just stood there''-collages311.jpg

    It's going to be so sweet!
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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    You know, the fact that Thomas felt the need to say "they just stood there for us", makes his comments sound like a dig to me. It was complete hyperbole, and he knows it. He's basically saying the Rams didn't really try. If that was the case, I'd be interested to ask Thomas why he needed double-team help on more than a few plays blocking Robert Quinn.

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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    i still have the feeling that hekker didn't intent to kick it THAT far lol

    might have surprised himself

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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    You know, the fact that Thomas felt the need to say "they just stood there for us", makes his comments sound like a dig to me. It was complete hyperbole, and he knows it. He's basically saying the Rams didn't really try. If that was the case, I'd be interested to ask Thomas why he needed double-team help on more than a few plays blocking Robert Quinn.
    i think he meant that on defense, they just....stood there...without shifting, or any moving around

    just got in their spot, and stayed put

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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    Quote Originally Posted by citr92 View Post
    i think he meant that on defense, they just....stood there...without shifting, or any moving around

    just got in their spot, and stayed put
    Perhaps, but after reading the way he phrased it, my first thought was a slam on the Rams' effort.

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    Re: The Rams "who just stood there''

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiRam View Post
    I don't believe Jeff and crew have made any excuses for sloppy play. If anything, at this time of year, sloppy play/missed tackles, etc., are to be expected. Vanilla is okay this time of year
    I don't believe I stated that Jeff and Crew were making excuses. Fans make excuses or brush things off under the pretense that it's just preseason.

    We all know the games don't count. We all know it's vanilla and I'm certain most agree vanilla is ok. Some fans are simply starved for action at this time of year and want to comment on the performance of players in these meaningless games.

    When someone points out poor performance others brush it off as "Oh don't worry about it. It's preaseason. When the regular season gets here he will play great"

    And maybe he will but that's not the point. The point is it's just Rams Talk about action.

    To be fair it should go both ways; take for example this:

    "Wow Sam played great last night in that preseason game. He was so sharp. Absolutely flawless"

    But then you never hear this:

    "Yeah, Sam looked good but it's only preseason and the defense he was going against was not even trying. When the regular season gets here he will probably struggle against a stepped up defense"

    I don't know. I just wish they'd get rid of the flippin preseason or shut Rams Talk down during. Every year it's the same old thing. "It doesn't matter because it's preseason" Yeah, well then, why bother commenting at the site?

    It doesn't matter anyway....It's just preaseason!
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