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    Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Here are my rankings for the rookies after 8 games, pursuant to the following scale:

    5 - Well above expectations
    4 - Exceeds expectations
    3 - Meets expectations
    2 - Below expectations
    1 - Potential Bust
    0 - Insufficient Data

    Michael Brockers - 3
    As a first round pick, expectations for Brockers were high. After a delayed start due to an ankle injury, I think he's on track.

    Brian Quick - 2
    I had hoped for a bit more of an impact. His progress in the second half of the season will have a substantial impact on the overall view of this rookie class.

    Janoris Jenkins - 3.5
    With respect to off-the-field concerns, so far, so good. As a starting CB, Jenkins has had his ups and downs, but I think that overall he is doing very well for a rookie.

    Isaiah Pead - 1.5
    Pead has been a pretty big disappointment thus far, but I gave him that extra .5 because its way too early to put him in the potential bust category.

    Trumaine Johnson - 3
    He has had some good moments in limited play. I would look for him to get a bigger role as the season continues, given Brad Fletcher's status as a FA to be.

    Chris Givens - 4
    Though he does not have a ton of catches, Givens has given the Rams a consistent deep threat. As the offense develops, he will be a key factor.

    Rokevious Watkins - 0
    His rookie campaign was cut short by injury. I expect him to be in the mix next year.

    Greg Zuerlein - 5
    What can you say about the man of many nicknames? Certainly, nobody misses our kicker from last year, Jo-- er... what's his name?

    Aaron Brown - 1
    Sent to practice squad, then cut.

    Daryl Richardson - 5
    Who would have guessed that a 7th round pick would outplay a 2nd rounder and battle Steven Jackson for carries?

    Johnny Hecker (Undrafted FA) - 5
    The Rams' gamble of relying on rookie kickers has really paid off.

    Overall, I'd say the draft class is, at a minimum, meeting the lofty expectations of a draft with 6 Top 100 selections. It will be a while before the book is truly written on this group, but I think its safe to say that several of the players taken will be part of the Rams' core for the next several years.
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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Quick and Pead will be factors next season. Quick basically needs to learn route running and reading defenses so he might not be a full time starter until season 3. Pead needs to bulk up a little, get better at blocking / defense reads and get some playing time. Pead's biggest problem the rest of the season is that Richardson is the likely #1 RB on this team next season. Playing time is going to be hard to get as long as Jackson and Richardson are healthy. Next year he may end up being our 3rd down back.

    I still would like to see Johnson given an opportunity at safety where the Rams have massive need.

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Nice post agree with your evaluation.

    I think Quick and Pead will hold the fate of this draft class. One of the two needs to become a big time player for the Rams.

    To move back in the draft and get (3) second round draft choices and come out of it with a solid CB in Jenkins, will not get it done IMO.

    It does look like the Rams will be parting ways with SJ next year. Pead will have a chance to produce. Quick also will have time to develop into a player. If they both hit, it could be the best draft we ever had. If they both miss it will be the biggest blown opportunity we ever had.
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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Looks like you got it right on there. I have been disappointed in Quick. There is a reason that with all of his potential he has not been on the field much. My biggest concern showed up in the London game where he seemed very passive and did not fight for the ball in spite of his size.

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    If they both miss it will be the biggest blown opportunity we ever had.[/QUOTE]
    Not including the Dickerson deal.

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Quote Originally Posted by fearsome foursome View Post
    If they both miss it will be the biggest blown opportunity we ever had.
    Not including the Dickerson deal.[/QUOTE]

    You got that RIGHT, I stand corrected!

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    I cant wait until next year, then 2 of our 2nd rounders will get to contribute in a big way. Quick has the potential to be the #1 here next year, whereas Pead can be the #1 RB.


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    Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Quick looks so big and fast compared to our other receivers. I think his confidence is waning a little bit. I fully believe with the unexpected production from Chris givens and DA coming back we have no need for Steve smith. Give Brian quick a chance to suit up every Sunday.

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Quote Originally Posted by bruce4life View Post
    Quick looks so big and fast compared to our other receivers. I think his confidence is waning a little bit. I fully believe with the unexpected production from Chris givens and DA coming back we have no need for Steve smith. Give Brian quick a chance to suit up every Sunday.
    When you said DA i thought you meant that Denario Alexander was coming back and I was like "I thought he signed with the Chargers..." took me a few to figure that one out.

    And I agree, seems Smith just doesn't have anything left in the tank, not sure he's even worth being on the bench.

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    I think Jenkins deserves more than a 3.5, considering his off field issues and playing at a small school coming out

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Quote Originally Posted by tomahawk247 View Post
    I think Jenkins deserves more than a 3.5, considering his off field issues and playing at a small school coming out
    I don't think of Jenkins as a small school guy, given that he played at Florida before transferring.

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    I think that's a fair assessment. Another way of looking at these players is to estimate the impact, positive or negative, they've had on their respective units & the team overall.

    Givens, for eg, has significantly improved my appreciation for Sam's progress & potential. Iirc, The Rams had 3 pass plays of 40+ yds all of last season; they already have 7 so far this season. It looked to me like a switch got turned off for the entire offense as soon as Givens hurt his foot in The Pats game. This cliche about stretching the field vertically having a positive effect on the offense overall seems to be true. His willingness as a blocker has also positively impacted other players' productivity as well.

    The really frustrating case for me is Brockers. He's already regularly being double-teamed & having a positive effect on run defense by taking some of the strain off Lau and Dunbar ( no idea what hole Rocky Mc seems to have fallen into) and yet the DL unit as a whole has seemed less effective since Brockers got in the mix, especially as pass rushers. Could just be that The Rams have played better passing offenses/O-lines in those games or that the massive drop-off in ,especially, Fletcher's play ( not the same player after getting a neck stinger in The Fins game,iirc) & others in the secondary ( JJ's bizarre mental lapses, the Dahl/Stewart conundrum,etc) has hurt them but it seems a strangely counter-intuitive situation of subtraction of the DL's overall cohesion by addition of a better player.

    I'm a little more concerned about Quick and Pead than some & it's hard not to see their limited contributions to this point as having been something of a drag on the progress of the team. Plenty of others who should be more impactful at this point to shoulder that burden as well, of course ( Kendricks, Smith,et al). But , for me, it does come back to another football chestnut; this idea that a significant difference between players drafted in the first/top o' the second rounds and the rest of the draft is an estimation of their NFL readiness. I'm not calling them busts at all but I think there's reason to be frustrated with their evident mental "greenness" for guys taken as high as they were. I'm sure Fisher/Snead are far from panicking about either but, still, I doubt they aren't disappointed.After a full off-season's prep and half a season of games/practice, I'm not sure the small ball transition argument still holds water for Quick & it never did for Pead,imo.

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    not that i like to put a lot of expectations in a player

    but just looking at zuerlein before the season started, i guess you could say he's playing above expectations since he's got the right mindset

    but he set the record for 21 straight kicks, and went 23/24 his senior season with a couple 58 yarders

    i expected him to be a great kicker, i'd say he meets mine....but i didn't know his leg was THIS STRONG until during the season when i found out he's apparently kicked a 74 yarder in practice

    so he's a bit above expectations...but his expectations, for me, were already high

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    Re: Rookie Class Evaluations at Halfway Point

    Mr Quick is the biggest disapointment for me. His lack of pace is glaring at times. Following closely behind is Isaiah Pead. The man looks bewildered out there at times, but atleast he has the tools once the game slows down for him. So far, the rest of the draft is pretty good.

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    On a scale of 1-5, I would give both Legatron and DRich an 8, and Hecker a 6 or 7.


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