The S.L.O.P.P.Y. Manifesto.

[Josh]

Thats funny. and it looks painful at the same time. I here by ask that all partys shake hands and give the rightful group it's praise.

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[AvengerRam]

Originally Posted by UtterBlitz

It is good to hear you say this Avenger. I was starting to wonder what your thoughts were these days after the SLOP manifesto.

The Manifesto is designed to enhance SLOP's credibility. If SLOP starts from day 1 screaming for Linehan's head, regardless of how the team plays, then nobody would take it seriously (nor should they). On the other hand, if SLOP emphasizes that it supports the team, and will evaluate Linehan in a rational manner, then, in the event that Linehan fails, nobody will be able to argue that SLOP didn't give him a fair chance.

Make no mistake... I don't think Linehan is a good coach, and I doubt he'll still be around in 2009. But, if he proves me wrong, that will mean that the Rams are having a good year, so I'll be happy about that.

[AvengerRam]

Originally Posted by PossumBoy9

SLOP SHOULD EXPECT RESULTS, not look for excuses as to why those results didn't happen

There's a perfect example of you twisting my words/putting words in my mouth.

The "schedule" part of the Manifesto needs to go, IMO.

Not if I want SLOP to be taken seriously, it shoudn't. Yes, the Rams should be able to compete against anyone, but to suggest that there is no difference between a road game against the Patriots and a home game against the Dolphins is just silly.

[AvengerRam]

How does consideration of a contingency equate to "making an excuse?"

If the Rams play a road game against team that went 16-0 last year, I still expect them to compete. There is no excuse if they don't. But if they play a good game, and get beat 24-23 on a last second field goal, does that mean everyone involved should be condemned?

By the same token, if the Rams play a team that went 1-15 last year at the EJD, and win by a score of 17-16, I'll be disappointed with the performance.

I expect the Rams to compete in every game. I don't expect them to win every game. That' doesn't mean I'm making excuses. Just being realistic.

[AvengerRam]

Originally Posted by PossumBoy9

I don't see much difference between considering an excuse and making an excuse.

Well, apparently that's because you don't understand that the words "contingency" and "excuse" are not interchangeable (notwithstanding your repeated attempts to substitute one - which I have used - for the other - which I have not).

[AvengerRam]

Dude, you're getting annoying. I never said that the contingency is "losing games due to a tough schedule." I said that the Rams might have difficulties (i.e. the games will be tougher).

You can try as much as you like to twist my words and put words in my mouth, but it won't work. I've made no excuses, nor have I stated that losing is acceptable.

My Manifesto was entirely clear, and you either (1) are incapable of understanding, or (2) don't wish to understand.

Either way, I'm done.

[AvengerRam]

Originally Posted by PossumBoy9

Pardon me for reading between the obvious lines there.



I certainly understand that your Manifesto was soft and you'll look for contigencies to excuse your boy, Scott Linehan.

I'm guessing S.L.O.P will be an antiquated forum movement in '08.

Oh yeah....GO RAMS !!!

SFLW

That one deserves a prize:



Congrats!

[r8rh8rmike]

Originally Posted by PossumBoy9

I certainly understand that your Manifesto was soft and you'll look for contigencies to excuse your boy, Scott Linehan.

Wow, Linehan is Av's boy?? NEVER thought I would hear that!

[UtterBlitz]

Originally Posted by AvengerRam

The Manifesto is designed to enhance SLOP's credibility. If SLOP starts from day 1 screaming for Linehan's head, regardless of how the team plays, then nobody would take it seriously (nor should they). On the other hand, if SLOP emphasizes that it supports the team, and will evaluate Linehan in a rational manner, then, in the event that Linehan fails, nobody will be able to argue that SLOP didn't give him a fair chance.

Make no mistake... I don't think Linehan is a good coach, and I doubt he'll still be around in 2009. But, if he proves me wrong, that will mean that the Rams are having a good year, so I'll be happy about that.

I understand, and I was going to give room for losses due to the schedule. The manifesto can give guidelines for the others to follow. I want SLOP to be credible, but I also want SLOP to stay true to our original opinions about Linehan, and above all, I want the Rams to have a good season.

Thanks for explaining your reasoning.

[r8rh8rmike]

Originally Posted by PossumBoy9

I was shocked to see it. Hey, it is what is, though.

Considering the chump style response I got, I must have struck a nerve.

Uh oh, here we go.

[bigredman]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PossumBoy9
I was shocked to see it. Hey, it is what is, though.

Considering the chump style response I got, I must have struck a nerve.

Uh oh, here we go.

Ok, taking bets. Who is who in this picture?

[Bar-bq]

There are some unwritten rules we go by here at the Clan.

"Don't argue with the professional Lawyer in the blue Armour with Horn-holes" is probably at the top of the list.

[YodaRam]

Originally Posted by Bar-bq

There are some unwritten rules we go by here at the Clan.

"Don't argue with the professional Lawyer in the blue Armour with Horn-holes" is probably at the top of the list.

If it is not written, it cannot be enforced, Barbie. By the way, how's Ken doing? Didn't you two have a nasty divorce? And subsequently Ken was discontinued as a part of the settlement? ..... ah, wait! If "the professional lawyer in blue Armour with a Corn-hole" was involved........RUN! I SAID RUN! Run for your lives! THERE IS NO HOPE!



"Unwritten rules...." GGEEEEEEZZZZZZZ.



RAM ON!

[Roy G. Biv]

I am reminded of Jonathan Swift...

"Rebukes are easy from our betters,
From men of quality and letters;
But when low dunces will affront,
What man alive can stand the brunt?"



However, I believe the Dean of St. Patrick's and one time resident of my dear County Antrim also had something to say to those fans willing to accept mediocrity....

"The stoical scheme of supplying our wants by lopping off our desires, is like cutting off our feet when we want shoes."


WOO-HOO! Oh how I love the offseason. The time of year when grown men speak as experts of facts that won't become so for another 1 to 5 months. Salute!

[Roy G. Biv]

Why....will he ban me?

I don't think the intention is to bring about an unfair moderator judgement. I could be mistaken but I believe our Aussie friend's monition is born from a lack of sporting occasion arising from the discrepancy in armaments brought to this battle of sagacity.