Shefter: Rams to interview Cameron later this week

[Drummerman1011]

Originally Posted by Nick

You're right, the Rams were never serious about adding Cameron to their staff. That's why he was on/near the top of their list since the search began, the national media even recognized they were pushing for him, Linehan had called him personally to discuss the job, and they had an interview set up for later this week. :x

You're so quick to blame this failed hiring on our front office and coach, but if you'd take a step back and consider this from Cameron's situation, there are many more reasons to go to Baltimore than to come to St. Louis - more recent team success, more stable ownership, more stable coaching situation and better job security, likely more free reign in terms of offensive control, past relationship with head coach, etc. And yes, the potential lame duck status of our head coach is certainly one of them.

I agree fully, our organization was doing anything they possibly could to try and get Cameron on our squad. It was just Camerons decision to go to Baltimore instead. There was really absolutely no more our organization could do to get this guy. Sucks that we didn't, but I really like what Zampese brings and the passing game he could make with our team. If they did hire Zampese we might be getting another receiver pretty soon.

[moloch41]

Originally Posted by Nick

That's why he was on/near the top of their list since the search began, the national media even recognized they were pushing for him, Linehan had called him personally to discuss the job, and they had an interview set up for later this week. :x

He was at the top of their list, but they wait 3 weeks after the season's over to even grant the guy an interview? I'd hate the see how long they would drag their azzes for someone they only had mild interest in... Tick Tock, Tick Tock...

[Nick]

Originally Posted by moloch41

He was at the top of their list, but they wait 3 weeks after the season's over to even grant the guy an interview?

Can you link me to the source that says the hold-up in the interview process was that the Rams wouldn't grant Cameron a sit-down when he wanted one?

Because according to Linehan nearly a week ago, his discussions with Cameron indicated that Cam wasn't prepared to rush into another job. That sort of sounds like the guy on the other end is holding things up, likely because he has other offers he's considering - namely, in Baltimore, where Marty was in play for a while and then later when his old buddy was hired.

I know Linehaters are bound to brush off anything the coach says regarding what has transpired, but again I see no reason or logic behind the organization pushing for this candidate - as reported by both local and national media - only to intentionally delay in offering him a chance to interview.

[moloch41]

Originally Posted by Nick

Can you link me to the source that says the hold-up in the interview process was that the Rams wouldn't grant Cameron a sit-down when he wanted one?

Because according to Linehan nearly a week ago, his discussions with Cameron indicated that Cam wasn't prepared to rush into another job. That sort of sounds like the guy on the other end is holding things up, likely because he has other offers he's considering - namely, in Baltimore, where Marty was in play for a while and then later when his old buddy was hired.

I know Linehaters are bound to brush off anything the coach says regarding what has transpired, but again I see no reason or logic behind the organization pushing for this candidate - as reported by both local and national media - only to intentionally delay in offering him a chance to interview.

I'm not blaming only Lineham- I'm blaming the FO too. It took those fools 2 weeks after the season ended to even meet themselves. You can't tell me that Lineham would have contacted Cameron before meeting with Shrew and Zagnut. Once again- this goes back to the lack of urgency by this whole regime. 3-13? Who cares we still sell tickets. We'll just wait for all the qualified coaches to be signed and then we'll pick from whatever's still left floating at the bottom.

[txramsfan]

I don't have a link, I don't have a source, but I'm hunching that maybe the reason that the Rams and Cameron didn't show much urgency may have come from Cameron himself. He got passed over for the Rams HC job for Linehan. Then he is supposed to come running back and interview for the OC? If it was me, I'd rather ask "would you like fries with that" than to take a job with an organization that didn't think I was the main man to begin with only to work for the guy who the front office thought was the main man.

Hope that makes sense, it did before I typed.

[UtterBlitz]

Originally Posted by txramsfan

I don't have a link, I don't have a source, but I'm hunching that maybe the reason that the Rams and Cameron didn't show much urgency may have come from Cameron himself. He got passed over for the Rams HC job for Linehan. Then he is supposed to come running back and interview for the OC? If it was me, I'd rather ask "would you like fries with that" than to take a job with an organization that didn't think I was the main man to begin with only to work for the guy who the front office thought was the main man.

Hope that makes sense, it did before I typed.

It makes sense to me....Cameron may want nothing to do with the Rams depending upon how things were handled in the past.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by moloch41

You can't tell me that Lineham would have contacted Cameron before meeting with Shrew and Zagnut.

Why not? They fired Boudreau and demoted Olson before the meeting. Is it so unrealistic that Linehan would have called Cameron or put out feelers as a means of preparing for that sit-down with management? Let's not forget that ESPN's Chris Mortenson reported two weeks ago that Cameron was a contender for this job. He probably didn't come up with that info out of thin air.

Originally Posted by moloch41

We'll just wait for all the qualified coaches to be signed and then we'll pick from whatever's still left floating at the bottom.

This is what I don't understand, the people who say this team is just waiting. Again, how do you know? Where's the source that says the team was just sitting on their hands doing nothing?

Every report we've read to date talks about how Cameron is high on their list, how they're making a strong push for him, how he's been contacted about the job. Finally word breaks on an interview date. Yet for some reason critics like to claim the team was just sitting around doing nothing.

Originally Posted by txramsfan

I don't have a link, I don't have a source, but I'm hunching that maybe the reason that the Rams and Cameron didn't show much urgency may have come from Cameron himself. He got passed over for the Rams HC job for Linehan. Then he is supposed to come running back and interview for the OC? If it was me, I'd rather ask "would you like fries with that" than to take a job with an organization that didn't think I was the main man to begin with only to work for the guy who the front office thought was the main man.

Very feasible idea, tx. Being fired after a 1-15 season is probably a humbling experience. Accepting a job as a coordinator with a team that two years ago had you in the running as the head coach would likely be pretty humbling as well. Maybe Cameron didn't want to experience that again.

[jquarando]

Originally Posted by moloch41

I'm not blaming only Lineham- I'm blaming the FO too. It took those fools 2 weeks after the season ended to even meet themselves. You can't tell me that Lineham would have contacted Cameron before meeting with Shrew and Zagnut. Once again- this goes back to the lack of urgency by this whole regime. 3-13? Who cares we still sell tickets. We'll just wait for all the qualified coaches to be signed and then we'll pick from whatever's still left floating at the bottom.

Let me ask this question. Have you ever worked in an office? I work for a multinational corporation and as I sit here in my cube I can think of about one trillion times where I had a meeting in two weeks with our steering committee in chicago and in order to prepare for this i would do certain things. For instance if I know i have a problem and I know my boss knows i have a problem I will try to find solutions. I can do this before the meeting because I guarantee they are going to ask what I am doing about it. I have the ability to make calls, send emails, talk to people and find out what to do about the problems. I dont have to wait the 2 weeks to get the ball rolling on what I know is going to happen. I even have comunication with my steering committee as to what I am doing and if they like my direction. Now when the meeting comes around we throw up slides and show pretty pictures while all the real work is gettin done in the background. After all is said is done we go out and get drunk on the company dime. Im not saying this is how the rams front office does things but I have a feeling it is something very similiar.

[txramsfan]

I also look at it this way, if we are going to give him a pass due to injuries it seems only logical we give him a pass right now for attending the funeral of the person WHO HIRED HIM AND SIGNED HIS CHECKS.

[moloch41]

Originally Posted by jquarando

Let me ask this question. Have you ever worked in an office? I work for a multinational corporation and as I sit here in my cube I can think of about one trillion times where I had a meeting in two weeks with our steering committee in chicago and in order to prepare for this i would do certain things. For instance if I know i have a problem and I know my boss knows i have a problem I will try to find solutions. I can do this before the meeting because I guarantee they are going to ask what I am doing about it. I have the ability to make calls, send emails, talk to people and find out what to do about the problems. I dont have to wait the 2 weeks to get the ball rolling on what I know is going to happen. I even have comunication with my steering committee as to what I am doing and if they like my direction. Now when the meeting comes around we throw up slides and show pretty pictures while all the real work is gettin done in the background. After all is said is done we go out and get drunk on the company dime. Im not saying this is how the rams front office does things but I have a feeling it is something very similiar.

Well, all that red tape didn't seem to prevent other teams from going out and signing coordinators and head coaches. So, that would lead me to believe that the Rams were dragging their azzes on decisions that might very well make or break their season. I really don't think Linehan has the power to hire a coach without the approval of the front office, but I might be wrong. The fact that he didn't even meet with the FO until two weeks after the season ended would tell me that important decisions were put on hold until then. If the Rams front office was serious about correcting all the problems that are wrong with the team, one would have thought they'd show more urgency.

[moloch41]

Originally Posted by Nick

Why not? They fired Boudreau and demoted Olson before the meeting. Is it so unrealistic that Linehan would have called Cameron or put out feelers as a means of preparing for that sit-down with management? Let's not forget that ESPN's Chris Mortenson reported two weeks ago that Cameron was a contender for this job. He probably didn't come up with that info out of thin air.

He waited two weeks to even call Cameron after the season ended. Common sense would have said that even though he finished 1-15 as a head coach, he would have been highly sought after as an OC- which apparently he was and Linehan or the FO should have been on the phone with him the day after the season ended to put their feelers out. And then to top it off- they wait an additional week to have him in for an interview- after he had apparently interviewed elsewhere. Most teams are trying to get their staffs in place before the Senior Bowl - to give them as much time as possible to be best prepared for the draft. It seems to me with how things turned out, other teams were out there scouting coordinators and working the phones before the Rams even met with their head coach halfway across the country. To me, none of that shows that they had this guy at the top of their list and we actually serious about landing him.

[jquarando]

Originally Posted by moloch41

He waited two weeks to even call Cameron after the season ended. Common sense would have said that even though he finished 1-15 as a head coach, he would have been highly sought after as an OC- which apparently he was and Linehan or the FO should have been on the phone with him the day after the season ended to put their feelers out. And then to top it off- they wait an additional week to have him in for an interview- after he had apparently interviewed elsewhere. Most teams are trying to get their staffs in place before the Senior Bowl - to give them as much time as possible to be best prepared for the draft. It seems to me with how things turned out, other teams were out there scouting coordinators and working the phones before the Rams even met with their head coach halfway across the country. To me, none of that shows that they had this guy at the top of their list and we actually serious about landing him.

I wonder if you work for the front office cause you seem to know everything thats going on. Also despite numerous reports from the media that we were persuing cameron you seem to think we were dragging our feet. I get your point that you think the FO is messing things up but where are your facts to back up your argument? Yes I know we didnt sign cameron but is it possible that he just didnt want to come here?

We Will Get The Guy Thats Wants To Be Here!!

[Varg6]

Originally Posted by PHAT-MONEY

We Will Get The Guy Thats Wants To Be Here!!

Who the hell wants to be here?

Larry Coker?