Shivers pleads guilty to DUI

FYI, according to todays post dispatch, shivers has pleaded guilty to a DUI incident that occured in february in arizona. Speculation is that this incident may explain why he slipped in the draft. Interesting, especially in light of the Leonard Little situation.

Now this should lead to an interesting debate on the board....

ramming speed to all

general counsel

[coy bacon]

LOL,
you got to be kidding me.
Another drunk on the team. Where do the Rams find these guys?

[Nick]

Originally Posted by coy bacon

LOL,
you got to be kidding me.
Another drunk on the team. Where do the Rams find these guys?

Maybe the Rams believe in rehabilition and forgiveness?

[Bob L. Head]

Originally Posted by NickSeiler

Maybe the Rams believe in rehabilition and forgiveness?

Yes, but do the players they're forgiving believe in it? Apparently, Little might not.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by Bob L. Head

Yes, but do the players they're forgiving believe in it? Apparently, Little might not.

Touché, but then again, that's just Little.

[txramsfan]

Well, I can't remember when every player was a choir boy.....no offense to Bob.L.

[Bob L. Head]

Originally Posted by txramsfan

Well, I can't remember when every player was a choir boy.....no offense to Bob.L.

None taken. And trust me: despite my diminutive size and ceramic body, when I was young, I had my early mornings where I would have been better off with a designated bobbler. You might even say "but for the grace of God..."

But, it's one thing to be a "bad boy" and another entirely to cause an accident that klls somebody. I was all for giving Little another shot the first time, but if the allegations are true this time it will be tough for me to argue that now. I guess that was my point, if I had one. Or maybe it was that I think that had I been involved in what Little was, I would have stayed stone cold sober. I think so. Maybe.