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    SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Fantasy football Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's performance a fluke?

    By Michael Beller, Brian Flood and Alessandro Miglio, SI.com

    After weeks of lackluster performances, Tavon Austin exploded for 138 receiving yards and two TDs.

    Tavon Austin finally showed up this season, totaling 137 receiving yards and three touchdowns. One-week fluke or sign of things to come?

    Beller: I'm not sure if I've been more confident in any roundtable answer yet this season. This has "one-week fluke" written all over it. Austin made two big plays in the passing game, and one more as a returner. He still got just three targets, though. It just happens that the three this week resulted in a monster stat line. I'd be more encouraged if he had caught eight of 10 targets for 82 yards, or had some other somewhat-pedestrian looking stat line. That would give me confidence that he was taking on a larger role in the offense. Instead, I'm just even more convinced that the NFL is as random as ever and cannot be adequately explained in some circumstances.

    Flood: Considered by many as the top playmaker in this season's rookie class, Austin disappointed fantasy owners through nine weeks. But in Week 10, the dynamic rookie threw himself a coming-out party, and the Rams would be silly not to feed him the ball going forward. Wide receivers that get selected in the Top 10 on draft day shouldn't be considered a "fluke" because of a breakout game. Receivers selected that early are supposed to be game changers. Austin clearly has the potential to be an elite option down the road. Fantasy owners would settle for consistent and steady down the stretch while the talented rookie adjusts to the NFL.

    Miglio: I'm in line with Beller. This is most certainly a one-week fluke. Austin scored two touchdowns on two catches, a feat unto itself. Both touchdown receptions came on blown coverage, and his 98-yard punt return was a comical affair for the opposing special teams unit. If you happened to own Austin in redraft leagues, try to cash in on his breakout. Otherwise you might be in for some heartbreak chasing points with him in your lineup next week.


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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Wow, "most certainly a one-week fluke"? If this isn't locker room bulletin board material, nothing is.

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    That is moronic.

    At the time of the draft, everyone and their mother was tripping over themselves declaring that Austin was the top playmaker available.

    So now, after a slow start to the season followed by a Week 10 breakout performance, his playmaking is a fluke?

    This is why "fantasy analysts" are worthless.

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    well it was a fluke because he broke a record=just 3rd player in history with 3 TDs of 55 yards or more in one game.

    As to whether he'll be a consistent game breaker remains to be seen.

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAM29JACKSON View Post
    As to whether he'll be a consistent game breaker remains to be seen.
    If you take into account the big plays and TD's that were nullified because of penalties, IMO, he's been a pretty consistent game breaker so far this year. My guess is he isn't done yet.

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Fantasy football Roundtable......
    ....it was all blah, blah, blah after that.
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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Roundtable.....I am hungry for a pizza.

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Kind of a dumb question to begin with. No, we certainly don't expect to see Tavon Austin come up with 3 huge plays every week, but it certainly is reasonable to think Austin will continue to be more productive and bust an occasional big play in the future. Anyone who watched Sunday's game saw his big play potential.

    Sounds like a lot of nonsense from fantasy idiots who don't know much.

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    totally ignoring all the other things taken away with penalties that DIDN'T MATTER, as in not affecting the play

    lol

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    A fluke? Oh boy... **Shaking my head**

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Anyone who has watched The Rams' games would have seen the many near misses - some TA's fault, many others not- that indicated it was just a matter of time before TA spearheaded some impact plays. Getting three in one game was a rare enough thing to be called a fluke, imo, especially the punt return, but the other two were simply well-executed - and poorly-defended, it must be said- versions of stuff The Rams have been trying all year. No reason to believe they can't do it again.

    And while it's absurd to say yer mamma or whoever could have scored with execution like that,etc, I don't think it's crazy to suggest Cook or Givens could have done some serious damage with the same chances. Chances they are likely to get now that The Krakenette is once more a disproportionately large blip on every DC's radar.He may not put up big numbers again this year but that doesn't mean he can't seriously influence games.
    I do hope the boost in confidence the whole team must have got from scoring so explosively will help keep the support focused & chopping wood when things don't go as well for them. The Rams are clearly always in with a puncher's chance now.
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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Well said AeO!

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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Apparently, some people don't realize that this analysis was written from a fantasy football perspective, and with that in mind the analysis is 100 percent accurate.

    Fantasy analysts are about as "worthless" as any other segment of society, i.e., a certain percentage are incompetent and certain percentage are not, just like engineers, doctors, teachers, lawyers, actors, etc.

    If you disagree, here is an article written by Eric Karabell of ESPN....


    Four Downs: Time to invest in Tavon?
    November, 10, 2013
    Nov 10
    10:33
    PM ET
    By Eric Karabell | ESPN.com


    Several rookies have been valuable fantasy options this season, some expected like Green Bay Packers running back Eddie Lacy and others a bit surprising, such as Washington Redskins tight end Jordan Reed. Then there's St. Louis Rams wide receiver Tavon Austin, arguably the biggest disappointment of the first-year skill position set. Austin was chosen eighth overall in the 2013 draft, and fantasy owners figured there was no way he wouldn't be heavily used, considering the Rams traded up to acquire him. Well, wrong! And even Sunday, when Austin exploded for 31 standard fantasy points, topping his entire season total, he wasn't exactly heavily used, which is why buying in and trusting him is not wise.

    Big numbers finally came Sunday when Austin, who has been showing up in more and more free-agent lists since being a ninth-round choice, on average, in ESPN average live drafts and universally owned, torched the Indianapolis Colts for three touchdowns of 55 yards or more, only the third player in history to do that in one game. Austin scored on an electrifying 98-yard punt return in the second quarter of the Rams' shocking 38-8 rout, and later caught touchdown passes from quarterback Kellen Clemens of 57 and 81 yards in which he, frankly, did much of the work. So where was that all season? The crazy-fast Austin has been underutilized for months. Will things suddenly change for the final six games, several of which come against challenging pass defenses like those of the Seattle Seahawks, San Francisco ***** and Arizona Cardinals?

    He looked great Sunday, but Tavon Austin had scored either one or zero fantasy points in five of his past six games.

    After all, Austin was provided a mere three receiving targets Sunday, catching two of them, and both of those turned into touchdowns. Those who presume the Rams finally get it and will simply make Austin a double-digit target machine from here on out are giving the team way too much credit. Look how long it took the Rams to figure out that Zac Stacy, another rookie, should have been the starting running back all along. Austin caught a total of 13 passes and scored four fantasy points in the past six games, overshadowing a promising start that included 18 receptions after three games, and a multitouchdown performance in Week 2. It was not only tough for fantasy owners to play Austin, but it was getting tough to justify simply owning him. On Sunday he was active in a mere 14 percent of ESPN standard leagues, and that, frankly, seems generous. The guy was averaging 6.7 yards per catch, and then he supplies 314 all-purpose yards in one game!

    So what happens now? Well, Austin should be owned in more than 72 percent of leagues on potential alone. If the Rams use him more often, whether it's on deep passes or slants in open space or even on running plays, we'd have a potential fantasy superstar. It's just hard to believe that a player with eight receiving targets over the past three games is suddenly primed for the Wes Welker treatment. That probably never happens, but would more attention warrant Austin WR2 management? Sure, in theory, but color me skeptical. I can't see ranking Austin among the top 20 wide receivers in Week 12 -- after his bye week -- until seeing the Rams really commit to using him properly. Fantasy owners love the production from Sunday, even if it came from many a bench, but the wise move is probably to sell high with the ESPN trade deadline a week away (Nov. 20, at noon ET). Don't give the Rams too much credit here.


    Most of the fantasy analysts I've read, just like Karabell above, acknowledge Austin's superb skills, but have doubts that the Rams know how to utilize him properly, which is pretty much the same sentiment voiced by most of the fans right here at ClanRam.

    From a strictly fantasy perspective, this performance was absolutely a fluke, and as stated above, unless the Rams start targeting Austin regularly, it will not be repeated very often, if at all.

    Anyone who's interested in checking out another fantasy analyst who isn't "worthless" could do worse than reading Matthew Berry, a very talented and funny writer at ESPN who's more entertaining than many writers currently active in any media format, be it TV, Hollywood, magazines or books.
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    Re: SI Roundtable: Was Tavon Austin's Performance A Fluke?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yodude View Post
    Apparently, some people don't realize that this analysis was written from a fantasy football perspective, and with that in mind the analysis and opinions are 100 percent accurate.
    "Opinions" being the key word, making "100 percent accurate" a misnomer. Maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong. I think Austin will surprise a lot of people in the fantasy world, and the real world as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodude View Post
    Apparently, some people don't realize that this analysis was written from a fantasy football perspective, and with that in mind the analysis and opinions are 100 percent accurate.

    Fantasy analysts are about as "worthless" as any other segment of society, i.e., a certain percentage are incompetent and certain percentage are not, just like engineers, doctors, teachers, lawyers, actors, etc.

    If you disagree, here is an article written by Eric Karabell of ESPN....

    Four Downs: Time to invest in Tavon?
    November, 10, 2013
    Nov 10
    10:33
    PM ET
    By Eric Karabell | ESPN.com

    Several rookies have been valuable fantasy options this season, some expected like Green Bay Packers running back Eddie Lacy and others a bit surprising, such as Washington Redskins tight end Jordan Reed. Then there's St. Louis Rams wide receiver Tavon Austin, arguably the biggest disappointment of the first-year skill position set. Austin was chosen eighth overall in the 2013 draft, and fantasy owners figured there was no way he wouldn't be heavily used, considering the Rams traded up to acquire him. Well, wrong! And even Sunday, when Austin exploded for 31 standard fantasy points, topping his entire season total, he wasn't exactly heavily used, which is why buying in and trusting him is not wise.

    Big numbers finally came Sunday when Austin, who has been showing up in more and more free-agent lists since being a ninth-round choice, on average, in ESPN average live drafts and universally owned, torched the Indianapolis Colts for three touchdowns of 55 yards or more, only the third player in history to do that in one game. Austin scored on an electrifying 98-yard punt return in the second quarter of the Rams' shocking 38-8 rout, and later caught touchdown passes from quarterback Kellen Clemens of 57 and 81 yards in which he, frankly, did much of the work. So where was that all season? The crazy-fast Austin has been underutilized for months. Will things suddenly change for the final six games, several of which come against challenging pass defenses like those of the Seattle Seahawks, San Francisco ***** and Arizona Cardinals?

    He looked great Sunday, but Tavon Austin had scored either one or zero fantasy points in five of his past six games.

    After all, Austin was provided a mere three receiving targets Sunday, catching two of them, and both of those turned into touchdowns. Those who presume the Rams finally get it and will simply make Austin a double-digit target machine from here on out are giving the team way too much credit. Look how long it took the Rams to figure out that Zac Stacy, another rookie, should have been the starting running back all along. Austin caught a total of 13 passes and scored four fantasy points in the past six games, overshadowing a promising start that included 18 receptions after three games, and a multitouchdown performance in Week 2. It was not only tough for fantasy owners to play Austin, but it was getting tough to justify simply owning him. On Sunday he was active in a mere 14 percent of ESPN standard leagues, and that, frankly, seems generous. The guy was averaging 6.7 yards per catch, and then he supplies 314 all-purpose yards in one game!

    So what happens now? Well, Austin should be owned in more than 72 percent of leagues on potential alone. If the Rams use him more often, whether it's on deep passes or slants in open space or even on running plays, we'd have a potential fantasy superstar. It's just hard to believe that a player with eight receiving targets over the past three games is suddenly primed for the Wes Welker treatment. That probably never happens, but would more attention warrant Austin WR2 management? Sure, in theory, but color me skeptical. I can't see ranking Austin among the top 20 wide receivers in Week 12 -- after his bye week -- until seeing the Rams really commit to using him properly. Fantasy owners love the production from Sunday, even if it came from many a bench, but the wise move is probably to sell high with the ESPN trade deadline a week away (Nov. 20, at noon ET). Don't give the Rams too much credit here.

    Most of the fantasy analysts I've read, just like Karabell above, acknowledge Austin's superb skills, but have doubts that the Rams know how to utilize him properly, which is pretty much the same sentiment voiced by most of the fans right here at ClanRam.

    From a strictly fantasy perspective, this performance was absolutely a fluke, and as stated above, unless the Rams start targeting Austin regularly, it will not be repeated very often, if at all.

    Anyone who's interested in checking out another fantasy analyst who isn't "worthless" could do worse than reading Matthew Berry, a very talented and funny writer at ESPN who's more entertaining than many writers currently active in any media format, be it TV, Hollywood, magazines or books.
    Sorry... I should have said that fantasy analysts are worthless to those who care about the actual game.
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