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    Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Is it time to start getting bigger, on the defense?


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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Not sure I buy that. Here's a comparison with the Broncos front 7, which is one the league's best examples of a 4-3 set.

    St. Louis Rams ----Denver Broncos
    Leonard Little 263 Kenard Lang 257
    Jimmy Kennedy 325 Gerard Warren 325
    L'Roi Glover 290 Michael Myers 300
    Victor Adeyanju 270 Ebenezer Ekuban 275
    Pisa Tinoisamoa 235 Ian Gold 223
    Will Witherspoon 234 Al Wilson 240
    Brandon Chillar 242 D.J. Williams 242

    Avg: 265.6 ---- 266.0

    Not much of a size difference there.

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    We dont need to get bigger, we need to get BETTER players. Glover, victor and chillar all need to be upgraded. Lets hope that wroten can emerge and fill one spot. CHillar is ok, he isnt an answer. An established pass rusher opposite leonard is critical for us.

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Quote Originally Posted by general counsel View Post
    We dont need to get bigger, we need to get BETTER players. Glover, victor and chillar all need to be upgraded. Lets hope that wroten can emerge and fill one spot. CHillar is ok, he isnt an answer. An established pass rusher opposite leonard is critical for us.

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    You nailed that one GC.

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    St. Louis Rams ---- Ravens
    Leonard Little 263 Pryce 286
    Jimmy Kennedy 325 Gregg 310
    L'Roi Glover 290 Ngata 340
    Victor Adeyanju 270 Terrell 260
    Pisa Tinoisamoa 235 Thomas 270
    Will Witherspoon 234 Lewis 250
    Brandon Chillar 242. Bart 240

    total 1859 total 1956

    D Line 1148 D Line 1196

    LB 712 LB 760

    Im not sure what the answer is, we have been known as a fast D for a while now. Susceptible to cut back, over running plays. And we just get man handled at times. I see our LBs just get totally taken of plays, by FBs.

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambos View Post
    St. Louis Rams ---- Ravens
    Little bit of an unfair comparison, the 3-4 the ravens run calls for a totally different set of personnel.
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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Little bit of an unfair comparison, the 3-4 the ravens run calls for a totally different set of personnel.
    Yeah you are right.

    L'Roi Glover 290, he really needs to get to the QB at that weight.

    Ngata 340, this would work for me.

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Revelstoke View Post
    Little bit of an unfair comparison, the 3-4 the ravens run calls for a totally different set of personnel.
    Not true. The Ravens aren't running a 3-4 anymore. Their front four are Pryce, Gregg, Ngata, and Suggs. The linebackers are Thomas, Lewis, and Scott.

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenfleece View Post
    Not true. The Ravens aren't running a 3-4 anymore. Their front four are Pryce, Gregg, Ngata, and Suggs. The linebackers are Thomas, Lewis, and Scott.
    I stand corrected.

    As I sit at my desk and do data entry i wonder: who has the smallest front seven and where do they rank in the run defense order ?

    Does size matter?
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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    I stand corrected.
    I'm never wrong, what was I thinking

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Revelstoke View Post
    I stand corrected.


    Does size matter?
    I suppose that depends on which gender you are talking to.

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    I suppose that depends on which gender you are talking to.
    So true, but hardly the direction I was headed.
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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    I am not sure its entirely gender specific, there may be proclivity issues involved. This board accepts and welcomes rams fans of all genders and persuasions.

    ramming speed to all

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    First of all you can't compare the Rams defense to the Ravens defense. That's like comparing a mortal to God. Just shouldn't be done. First we are still having post lovie hang over. He ran a fast cover 2. The key to that is to use your speed to just get around your guys and get into the qb's face forcing turnovers. Hence why speed at the LB position was valued more than that of bulk, at the front seven to be more accurate. Now that he has left this doesn't work. We just don't have the right people. Laramie really didn't change the scheme or the players, just the play calls. This team is still geared towards a cover 2. Unless we can get some pressure from the front 4, then we will continue to be ineffective.

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    Re: Simply stated, the Rams aren't big enough, on their front seven.

    Our Front 7 is big enough, but not good enough.

    If I was to pick a Dline Lineup I'd pick

    RE Adeyanju
    DT Claude Wroten
    NT Jimmy Kennedy
    LE Leonard Little

    Therefor, just seeing how it works out but having a Run Stopping DE along witha Pass Rushing DT, and a Run stopping DT with a pass rushing DE and see how that works.
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