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    Re: Something interesting on Barron

    Quote Originally Posted by moklerman View Post
    I think Barron would benefit greatly from moving to guard. False starts on tackles can often mean they are trying to compensate or are worried about the pass rush. Leonard Davis had the same problem when playing tackle compared to guard. I'm not saying all of Barron's problems are because of this but if he cut's down on the penalties at all, that's a good thing.

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    I would really like to see that lineup for the Rams.
    That's exactly what the Raiders have done with Gallery for the same reason. It would admit failure with our first round OT, but if it makes the line better, I'm okay with a little egg on the face.

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    Re: Something interesting on Barron

    Quote Originally Posted by moklerman View Post
    I think Barron would benefit greatly from moving to guard. False starts on tackles can often mean they are trying to compensate or are worried about the pass rush. Leonard Davis had the same problem when playing tackle compared to guard. I'm not saying all of Barron's problems are because of this but if he cut's down on the penalties at all, that's a good thing.

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    I would really like to see that lineup for the Rams.
    Sorry, but he just doesn't have the kind of physique (or physicality for that matter) to succeed at guard in the NFL. As has already been documented in previous posts, this guy does NOT like to lift weights and is not going to be or get strong enough to play the position effectively. He either develops as a OT or he gets out of the league altogether.

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    Re: Something interesting on Barron

    A good many guards in the NFL are actually converted OT's, so that's not as big of a deal as the fact that he'd be a first round guard. A very good example is Leonard Davis, a very big disappointment of a tackle converted to guard last year for Dallas and made the pro bowl.

    As for whether or not he has the strength to do it, think of it this way. Saunders doesn't need him to be super strong, because he moves his guards around on pulls, so they need to be quick just as much as string, and Barron is that. I think he could succeed at Guard if for some reason we moved him there.

    I'm hoping the new line coach finds that Barron just needs some better coaching and some ritalin and then everything will be fine. I have faith in the big lug. Not too much more, but faith.

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    Re: Something interesting on Barron

    Quote Originally Posted by TekeRam View Post
    A good many guards in the NFL are actually converted OT's, so that's not as big of a deal as the fact that he'd be a first round guard. A very good example is Leonard Davis, a very big disappointment of a tackle converted to guard last year for Dallas and made the pro bowl.
    I understand what you are saying, but using Leonard Davis as an example is a poor choice. You see, Davis is actually a true guard who attempted to play tackle, whereas Barron is a true tackle who is not a guard. Davis was misused in Arizona (surprise!) and is now where he should have been along. The same failure awaits the Rams should they attempt to move Barron inside.

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    Re: Something interesting on Barron

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    giving away penalties is a drive killer tho!
    Seriously. Our offense would finally get into a rhythm, get close to the redzone then BAM..."FALSE START"....that would tick me off so much.

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    Re: Something interesting on Barron

    Out of the center, guard and tackle position, I think the guard position would be the easiest to learn. Not that it's "easy" but "easier". I think it would benefit Barron not to be out on an island, dealing with pass rushing specialists. If nothing else, it's worth exploring. Since we all know he's going to have his struggles at tackle, seeing if he can play guard seems like something that should be tried.

    If he has motivational issues, struggling at tackle might be compounding the problem. If you're not succeeding or excelling at something when you weren't motivated to do it in the first place...

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    Re: Something interesting on Barron

    Why all of a sudden everyone wants JAKE LONG instead of DEFENSE.

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    Re: Something interesting on Barron

    I dont think everyone is wanting Jake Long as compared to the others, I think we are all ok with the fact that whoever we get at #2 should be able to contribute. Just showing what attributes Jake Long brings to the table.

    You would like to protect the QB and open up holes for the RB wouldn't you?

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