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-07-19-2012 #16
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
I agree that the above is hog-wash. As discussed ad nausium, Coach Fisher and Shareef broke the rules by making a pre-draft "agreement". Since the player and agent broke that "agreement", they have forced the RAMS into this spot. The RAMS would have chosen him lower, and the offer above is better than what he would have got if Shareef had declined the "agreement". Shareef has to do one of three things. Accept this offer, accept the "agreement", or loan his client money to hold him over until next years draft. Should he choose option 3, he's lucky I don't have a say, or I'd select Jenkins in round 1 or 2. I'd then offer this same deal. Sure it would waste a pick, but it would teach him a lesson about keeping your word; I hope.
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-07-19-2012 #17
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
Jason Cole over-dramatizing a story?!?!?!
Mike Florio opining without first getting all the facts straight!?!?!?!
Who woulda thunk it!?!
I think Jenkins needs to get with his agent and get this stuff resolved ASAP if he wants to be at the top of the depth chart when the season starts.
Welcome to the St. Louis Rams!
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-07-19-2012 #18
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
How many times have we heard a draftee mutter something to the effect of: "I'm just happy to be drafted. I'm ready to do whatever they ask me to do." Now's the time to walk the walk and show the organization that you're Rams first. He's going to get all of his money, the only question is when. Don't start bad blood over a trivial rookie contract that could affect you when it's time to sign the next one.
As for the Rams, I'm much more comfortable knowing that they're protecting the team even if what they're doing might seem a little heavy handed.
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-07-19-2012 #19
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
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-07-19-2012 #20
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Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
The Rams are well within their rights to protect themselves with behavior clauses regarding Jenkins. It is not unlike any number of other instances in all sports where a team takes a chance on a guy with skeletons in his closet and puts language in the contract that safeguard the team. AV would best clarify this, but I believe the term is "moral turpitude clauses". The Rams would be foolish to do anything differently in this regard.
If anyone wants to have it both ways, it's Jenkins' agent and/or Jenkins himself. The Rams were up front with what they wanted to do in exchance for selecting him as high as they did. Now all of a sudden they're insulted. Ridiculous.
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-07-19-2012 #21
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
You've got it right, NJ.
Of course, from there the 'concept' could be looped one way or the other and applied to various degrees, manipulated, exonerated, etc., all the legal jazz.Moral turpitude is a legal concept in the United States that refers to "conduct that is considered contrary to community standards of justice, honesty or good morals." -- Moral Turpitude: West's Encyclopedia of American Law Answers
As long as Jenkins doesn't make a 'turp' of himself he -- and we -- should be fine. Knock on wood.
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-07-20-2012 #22
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
Originally Posted by Jason Cole
Well, at least one thing's for sure: At a minimum, one of these guys SUCKS as a journalist.
Originally Posted by Mike Florio
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-07-20-2012 #23
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
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-07-20-2012 #24
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
Okay, yes, he hired an advisor, but the team wasn't happy with his choice, so that kind of brings us back to square one. Jenkins' camp rejected the solution that the Rams proposed to alleviate some of the risk. The team wanted him to hire someone they had faith in, and he understandably didn't want his finances to be chaperoned by someone with links to his employer. So option two was to tie bonuses to his ability to stay out of trouble enough to stay on the roster for his whole contract. We're not talking anything too radical here--just make the team for four years, and he gets his bonus money.
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-07-20-2012 #25
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
Well, it is true that Mr. JJ has little choice. It never ceases to amaze me when people are shocked that there are consequences to their actions. I hope this drama is over soon and JJ has enough sense to just shut up and play.
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-07-22-2012 #26
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Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
I find funny how people are critical when it comes to other peoples money. Here is the deal, Fisher made it a point to say how much he believed in Jenkins. Jenkins was drafted and deserves to be treated fairly. The Rams drafted him despite his past. THEY MADE THE CHOICE! They have to live with it. Pay the man his money let him make his choices of the people handling his finances and move on. Just put language in contract stating that if he screws up and is released because of it he has to pay a portion of his bonus back. If they can't tough. The way are breaking his bonus up, if he is released because he sucks, but was on his best behavior he loses that money. What other rookie on the team faces that danger? The Rams knew who they were drafting all they hope is that turns out to be the man that they say that they believe him to be.
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-07-22-2012 #27
Re: Sources: Rams are looking to place safeguards in rookie CB Janoris Jenkins' contr
Obviously, this situation can be judged from different perspectives. As you said, the Rams stated they were behind him and made the choice to draft him, but only after Jenkins and his agent agreed to specific safeguards. The Rams made it clear if the safeguards were not agreed to, they would not draft him, so in that sense, it was Jenkins who made the determining choice.
As far as paying Jenkins, they want to do exactly that, but they want some kind of safeguard, which again, was something he agreed to in order to get a higher draft spot. Spreading out bonus money is the safeguard, and is a common practice in the NFL. The same was done with Robert Quinn. In addition, the Rams have offered to pay Jenkins interest on the deferred payments, so he actually makes more money.Last edited by r8rh8rmike; -07-22-2012 at 01:13 PM.
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