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    Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Austin only played on 15 snaps yesterday. It seemed like he played more than that. Schotty HAS to give him more snaps. Tavon isn't going to do what he did yesterday every week, but not giving him the maximum amount of chances is absurd.

    It's great we didn't need more snaps for Tavon yesterday. In future games he needs to be on the field as much as possible. I'm worried that Schotty will stick to his awful plan and Tavon will go back to the old Tavon doing nothing because he doesn't touch the ball enough.

    I hope you have seen the light, Schotty. If you don't, it's time to hit the road.

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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Has he been under utilized? Somewhat. That said, it was 28-0...at the half. The second half was mostly about burning up the clock/running the ball. Airing it out in the second half would have amounted to doing the Colts a favor...not to mention the fact that the Rams don't need to risk injuries (to key players) in such a situation. If he's in there late in the game and gets rolled up or tears up his knee, you would be calling the staff 'idiots'.
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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    FRF is right. The reason he saw so few snaps is that the Rams basically spend the last quarter and a half of the game running the clock out.

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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fargo Ram Fan View Post
    Has he been under utilized? Somewhat. That said, it was 28-0...at the half. The second half was mostly about burning up the clock/running the ball. Airing it out in the second half would have amounted to doing the Colts a favor...not to mention the fact that the Rams don't need to risk injuries (to key players) in such a situation. If he's in there late in the game and gets rolled up or tears up his knee, you would be calling the staff 'idiots'.
    I'm not complaining about how many snaps he got yesterday, I was just shocked. My point is, he needs more snaps per game the rest of the season. I'm just worried he won't get them, and if so, that's ridiculous.
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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    FRF is right. The reason he saw so few snaps is that the Rams basically spend the last quarter and a half of the game running the clock out.
    My point isn't about yesterday, other than I was surprised. It's about future games, and if Schotty will change.
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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Let's not forget that before today he hasn't played the best football & has had a had time catching the ball. That doesn't exactly warrant more "touches" or "playing time".

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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    My point isn't about yesterday, other than I was surprised
    The title of the thread belies this comment.


    I'm worried that Schotty will stick to his awful plan and Tavon will go back to the old Tavon doing nothing because he doesn't touch the ball enough.
    The guy is among the top rookie WRs in the league, in every category. He has also had a couple big plays/scores called back, due to penalty. To call this "doing nothing", is pretty silly. While I agree that he should get more touches, your hyperbole is quite over the top. I think they are bringing him along in a fairly reasonable manner. He is on pace to have a very similar rookie year to a guy you may have heard of before. His name is: Torry Holt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fargo Ram Fan View Post

    The title of the thread belies this comment.

    The guy is among the top rookie WRs in the league, in every category. He has also had a couple big plays/scores called back, due to penalty. To call this "doing nothing", is pretty silly. While I agree that he should get more touches, your hyperbole is quite over the top. I think they are bringing him along in a fairly reasonable manner. He is on pace to have a very similar rookie year to a guy you may have heard of before. His name is: Torry Holt.
    Torry Holt had 56 catches 896 yards and 6tds his rookie year if my memory serves me well. ( did not look up stats as I'm writing this). If we take all of Austins yards we could compare the two players, which I think thats what you're doing. Austin will be fine period.

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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Unless it is being directed at the people who have flat out said Austin "isn't any good", the people who are using yesterday's game as an "I told you so" are missing the points raised about Tavon Austin over the past couple of weeks. My whole take- one expressed in the "why did we draft him" thread- was that Austin, though talented wasn't being used enough. It wasn't questioning his ability or even his numbers so much as it was how he was being utilized. If you have the guy out there only in select sets as opposed to the vast majority of the offensive plays, it becomes obvious to the defense when he might get the ball.

    Austin's performance yesterday certainly shows his potential. You don't have games like that by accident.

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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fargo Ram Fan View Post
    The title of the thread belies this comment.
    I disagree, it was a surprising answer to me. I also said this....

    Quote Originally Posted by ramsbruce View Post
    It's great we didn't need more snaps for Tavon yesterday. In future games he needs to be on the field as much as possible.
    So I clearly understand why he didn't get more snaps. The point is, he needs more in the future.

    "Doing nothing" is a bit over the top, I agree with you there. On the other hand, his day yesterday compared to his previous games is night and day.

    Again, give him more snaps and I think he would be the top rookie in the league, and possibly have a better season than "that guy" you mentioned named, Holt.

    Quote Originally Posted by fargo
    While I agree that he should get more touches, your hyperbole is quite over the top. I think they are bringing him along in a fairly reasonable manner.
    So you agree he should get more touches, yet they have been cutting his snaps compared to the start of the season, and that's a fairly reasonable manner to you? Seems a bit contradictory.

    The bottom line is, I've never had a complaint about Tavon, although it seems like you think I am complaining about him? I am complaining about Schotty and my fear that he still won't give Tavon more snaps in the future. If Schotty doesn't give the kid more chances, he needs to go.
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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
    If you have the guy out there only in select sets as opposed to the vast majority of the offensive plays, it becomes obvious to the defense when he might get the ball.
    That's a great point, and only one of the many reasons to get him more snaps.
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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Quote Originally Posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
    Unless it is being directed at the people who have flat out said Austin "isn't any good", the people who are using yesterday's game as an "I told you so" are missing the points raised about Tavon Austin over the past couple of weeks. My whole take- one expressed in the "why did we draft him" thread- was that Austin, though talented wasn't being used enough. It wasn't questioning his ability or even his numbers so much as it was how he was being utilized. If you have the guy out there only in select sets as opposed to the vast majority of the offensive plays, it becomes obvious to the defense when he might get the ball.

    Austin's performance yesterday certainly shows his potential. You don't have games like that by accident.
    Good points. Up until yesterday, it was a bit perplexing to see Austin basically an afterthought in the offense, with a few attempted WR screens (that never worked) every game, and the occasional short pass to the flat. He's done his damage when he's been allowed to use his speed down field, and I hope that continues. I also agree that having him play limited snaps in situational situations keys the defense.

    As far as the "I told you so" comments, those were directed to those who wanted to trade him as a bust. Your thread that addressed utilization was completely legitimate.

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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Austin & his unit mates deserve a ton of credit for executing those big plays so well but if you think defenses have been keying on him the last few weeks, I think you're mistaken. Givens and Cook were getting the doubles.

    I'll continue to believe that TA is a high risk/high reward specialist , not an every down player, until he starts grinding out the short and intermediate close quarter plays that a full-time WR needs to make to justify a high snap count.

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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azul e Oro View Post
    I'll continue to believe that TA is a high risk/high reward specialist , not an every down player, until he starts grinding out the short and intermediate close quarter plays that a full-time WR needs to make to justify a high snap count.
    I don't necessarily disagree with you on grinding out the short plays, but for the most part this year, defenses have been sitting on the screens and short dump offs to Austin. The minute he makes the catch, they're on him. IMO, he needs to get many more looks downfield to not only set up the kinds of plays we saw yesterday, but to keep defenders from cheating up on his short routes. Once he proves that he is a legitimate deep threat, all the other routes will open up for him, and he'll get the space he needs to perform his magic.

    As far as Austin being an every down player, I'm of the thinking that the more touches he gets, the more chances there are for big plays.
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    Re: Tavon's Big Day...But How Many Snaps Did He Get?

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree with you on grinding out the short plays, but for the most part this year, defenses have been sitting on the screens and short dump offs to Austin. The minute he makes the catch, they're on him. IMO, he needs to get many more looks downfield to not only set up the kinds of plays we saw yesterday, but to keep defenders from cheating up on his short routes. Once he proves that he is a legitimate deep threat, all the other routes will open up for him, and he'll get the space he needs to perform his magic.

    As far as Austin being an every down player, I'm of the thinking that the more touches he gets, the more chances there are for big plays.
    Absolutely. The play calling needs to put Tavon in position to succeed first, and then he takes it from there. It all starts with more snaps.
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