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    Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    With opposing pass rushers laying their ears back and coming after Marc balls to the wall on obvious passing downs, why do we not try the screen more often? Thoughts?


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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Yeah, gee there's an idea...something to actually "counter" what the defense is doing.

    My only objection is that with Steven Jackson on the "swing" passes, the play is very slow to develop. I think I would like Pittman in on the screen.

    He's smaller and SJ is not the guy you are trying to "get into open space" so he can do his thing. He's the muscle that you pound down their throuts. But yes, if they keep blitzing, you throw a screen and pull the blockers.

    Perhaps they don't have confidence in the blockers being able to pull?

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    No good reason I can think off, especially since Jackson has always excelled as a screen recipient, draw recipient, swing pass recipient, etc. as shown in this classic highlight video:

    YouTube - Steven Jackson

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Under the Linehan regime, it seems that the Rams like to run the "invisible screen" pass. The RB or WR receives a short pass with no blockers in front of him, and gets tackled. Its great for Bulger's completion percentage, but not much else.

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Under the Linehan regime, it seems that the Rams like to run the "invisible screen" pass. The RB or WR receives a short pass with no blockers in front of him, and gets tackled. Its great for Bulger's completion percentage, but not much else.
    Yeah, I've seen that play a lot. You might not hear it called a screen because the announcers prefer the term "backwards pass" when we use the play. It, of course, usually ends in a loss of yardage for us since there is no blocking when the pass gets there, so I guess maybe their term really is appropriate.

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    we cant even block normally, let alone do any fancy things like screen passes!

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    The reason is simple; "Because we might get a first down". We can't have that in the Linehan system. We can only do straight up runs and passes - no trickeration around here.. Might get some yards.

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by btimsah View Post
    The reason is simple; "Because we might get a first down". We can't have that in the Linehan system. We can only do straight up runs and passes - no trickeration around here.. Might get some yards.
    Are you talking about this year? If you are then it's the Saunders system.

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    Are you talking about this year? If you are then it's the Saunders system.
    The last two years under Linehan. I'm sure their "afraid" our offensive line won't be able to get out on the screen without hurting themselves or some lame-ass excuse. It's always something. But more importantly, why would you do a screen to Jackson when you can just keep doing off tackle runs all day then blame the players for "not executing"?

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by btimsah View Post
    The last two years under Linehan. I'm sure their "afraid" our offensive line won't be able to get out on the screen without hurting themselves or some lame-ass excuse. It's always something. But more importantly, why would you do a screen to Jackson when you can just keep doing off tackle runs all day then blame the players for "not executing"?
    Well, maybe after watching the game and seeing if that actually happens, we can talk about it.

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    Well, maybe after watching the game and seeing if that actually happens, we can talk about it.
    Yeah we were saving our "dynamic" offense for game 3.

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by btimsah View Post
    Yeah we were saving our "dynamic" offense for game 3.
    Does someone need a nap?

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    It seems like the screen plays success rate is down across the league in general due to the fact that most d-lines are faster and sniff it out quicker but in the Rams case where most defenses come through our line like water through a screen it might just work for us.

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Our linemen are too slow, and so far from what i've seen there's not enough creativity in this offense to get them out on there. and our playcallers seem clueless when it comes to reading the blitz properly.

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    Re: Is there a good reason we don't employ the screen pass more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guam rammer View Post
    Our linemen are too slow, and so far from what i've seen there's not enough creativity in this offense to get them out on there.
    You could very well be right, but it's hard to accurately tell without at least trying to execute it. Even if it doesn't work, it at least gives the opposing defense something to think about. Definitely worth a try against a suspect Seattle defense that gave up 34 points to Buffalo and 33 to the whiners.

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