Time To Blow Up The Coaching Staff.....

#1 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

it is now time to blow up the coaching staff, and that includes your idol, Mike Martz.

he is clearly not able to judge talent.
he is clearly not able to adjust his game plan to a changing league.
he is clearly not the genius everyone made him out to be.

the sad part is, he still thinks he is, and therein lies the problem. he thinks he can still out-fox other coaches in the league and has not realized that everyone has figured out his "complex" system.

time for him to go ( or go back to OC ).
time for his buddy Marmie to go.
time for some major changes with the coaching staff.

we cannot afford to blow up the D for the 2nd time in 4 years in hopes that it will solve what ails our beloved team.

it's time to look deep this time.

*fleet69* · #2 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

& who's out there to pick up????

#3 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

we'll see when the season ends.

all I know is that you can't stay with something that is not working anymore.

this season is not just about the defense. the offense has not been able to produce this year either ( 260+ points ). the Rams are usually around 400+ by now.

**Nick** · #4 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

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Originally Posted by lakerams

he is clearly not able to judge talent.

I think both sides could make equally long lists of the respective hits and misses Martz has had. To say he clearly isn't able to judge talent is incorrect, in my opinion.

#5 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

he can judge talent? really?

let's see. he said War... was washed up, but Chandler and Martin aren't.
he leaves Jason Shiver's exposed on the practice squad and Rich Coady is missing tackles on the field.

and don't get me started about the last 4 drafts.

*Tom_SF* · #6 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

undefinedAt least blow-up Marmie and whoever's running the special-ed teams. Ever since that Arizona fool showed-up, other teams act like they're playing the Cardinals. And the Dams don't disappoint.

:ramlogo: :ramlogo:

**Nick** · #7 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

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Originally Posted by lakerams

and don't get me started about the last 4 drafts.

You mean the drafts where he took Steven Jackson, Tony Hargrove, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Kevin Curtis, Shaun McDonald, Scott Tercero, Robert Thomas, Travis Fisher, Chris Massey, Adam Archuleta, Jerametrius Butler?

Like I said, we could both make equally impressive lists of various hits and misses. To say he can't judge talent at all is ridiculous, and doesn't even take into consideration the other parts of the organization responsible for reviewing incoming talent.

#8 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

you mean the years we drafted Canidate, D. Lewis, R. Pickett, L. Gordon, R. Thomas, Steve Bellisari, Eric Crouch and passed on guys like Marcus Stroud, Kris Jenkins, Scott Fujita and Nate Clements? are those the drafts youare referring to?

yes, there are hits and misses. but Martz has more misses than hits and the 2001 draft was the worst because we had a truckload of picks and wasted most of them.

**Nick** · #9 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

Lakerams, you're missing my point. This isn't about having more misses and hits, and this is exactly why I didn't want to go into detail in my original response. All I was saying is that it's ridiculous to say he is "clearly not able to judge talent" because he has a number of hits that prove otherwise. That's all I'm saying.

**RamDez** · #10 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

Is it not amazing that people end up arguing about draft picks?

And you know what.

The Rams have been held up on high as one of the BETTER teams since Martz has came on board. Everyone points to the Rams and says that they have drafted better.

But here comes the whiners ...... yea, yea, Martz drafted crap ........... sigh

#11 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

c'mon.... this is bs

under Martz we have had some ABYSMAL drafts... to take 3 DL in the 1st round and not have one that excels is just plain CRAZY... to draft a whole LB corp and still have no results is POOR... to not draft OL when clearly the veterans are breaking down is INCOMPETANT.

Yes we have had our successes ( I wouldn't say HITS)...

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You mean the drafts where he took Steven Jackson, Tony Hargrove, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Kevin Curtis, Shaun McDonald, Scott Tercero, Robert Thomas, Travis Fisher, Chris Massey, Adam Archuleta, Jerametrius Butler?

but tell me from that lot which is a league STAR or even a PRO BOWLER ????!!!??? closest we have is Pisa.

Can't believe we are arguing this when the facts speak for themselves!!

**RamDez** · #12 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

Yea, I canny believe that your arguing either

**Nick** · #13 (**permalink**) -20-12-2004

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Originally Posted by elAcky

but tell me from that lot which is a league STAR or even a PRO BOWLER ????!!!??? closest we have is Pisa.

I think it would be futile to measure a draft class by how many Pro Bowlers one gets. Some teams are lucky to have a handful of Pro Bowlers on their entire roster, let alone a single draft class or two.

Rather, are these players effective members of the team? Our 2001 defensive tackles are starting to come around now that they're allowed to play at more comfortable weights. The others listed who haven't proven their worth yet have shown enough potential to leave me optimistic.

All of this though is only to counter the comment that Martz clearly has no ability to judge talent. Apparently Martz is the one who gets blamed for picks like Eric Crouch, Trung Canidate, and Steve Bellisari, but gets no credit for Steven Jackson, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Travis Fisher, Jerametrius Butler, or the two 2003 receivers who look pretty good this season. Interesting how that works.

If I burned myself heating up the chili I ate at halftime, I wouldn't be surprised if someone suggested it was Martz's fault that I got hurt.