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    Top 10 quarterbacks at comebacks since 1996

    Table 1. Top 10 quarterbacks at comebacks since 1996
    Rank Quarterback Wins Losses
    1 Jake Plummer 19 28
    2 Peyton Manning 19 29
    2 Vinny Testaverde 19 29
    4 Tom Brady 13 8
    5 Jon Kitna 15 23
    6 Kerry Collins 17 30
    7 Donovan McNabb 12 15
    8 Marc Bulger 10 5
    9 Jake Delhomme 10 12
    9 Jay Fiedler 10 12


    153 Tim Rattay 1 10
    154 Kelly Holcomb 3 13
    155 Danny Kanell 1 11
    156 Patrick Ramsey 0 11
    157 Tony Banks 5 18
    158 Jeff George 2 14
    159 Kurt Warner 5 19
    160 Brian Griese 4 20
    161 Steve Beuerlein 5 23
    162 Mark Brunell 14 39

    One of the more surprising names on the “worst” list is Kurt Warner. He started two Super Bowls and won one. In each of those years he was the league MVP. Yet that obviously had more to do with gaining early leads than it had to do with coming back. One of his five career comebacks came in the 1999 NFC Championship game against the Buccaneers. His touchdown pass to Ricky Proehl with 4:44 left gave the Rams an 11-6 victory and a trip to the Super Bowl. It was a great time for the first comeback win of Warner’s career, but he would go on to have only four more in more than 20 opportunities through 2005.

    As Warner’s case shows, a team does not necessarily need a quarterback with gaudy comeback ability to make a Super Bowl. There are six quarterbacks who began their careers after 1995 that have made the Super Bowl. Brady, McNabb, Delhomme and Warner have been discussed as members of the top 10 and bottom 10. The other two are Ben Roethlisberger and Matt Hasselbeck. Big Ben ranks 16th out of 162, but Hasselbeck ranks 149th. Hasselbeck has the same comeback record (5-16) as David Carr. Roethlisberger’s record is comparable to Bulger’s: he also began his career with a 7-2 record in comeback situations. In addition, Brady is 7-2 in his most recent comeback chances.


    Complete article @ http://www.footballoutsiders.com/200...-analysis/3978

    Kind of technical and dry, but interesting in spots...

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    Re: Top 10 quarterbacks at comebacks since 1996

    I would pick Brady any day for leading a come back,he doesn't get rattled easily .. With Jake Plummer being that high though it just show's that stats don't mean everything...:l

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    Re: Top 10 quarterbacks at comebacks since 1996

    In terms of naming the very best at comebacks, I'd also want to take into account how big the comebacks were. Here, they call a comeback situation "down by at least 8 points in the fourth quarter", but I think one come from behind victory when you're down by say 21 at the beginning of the quarter would be a lot more meaningful than starting the fourth quarter with the ball in the opponent's red zone 5 times and pulling off victories.

    I think it'd be also be more appropriate to see how they rank by percentage than by sheer number...although admittedly the very idea that you could quantify what is or isn't a comeback situation is kind of silly. You may notice that some of the guys near the top of the list have had nearly 50 comeback opportunities, whereas others have had less total opportunities than those guys have had actual comebacks. Looking at percentage, here's how the guys in that top ten list rank:

    1 Marc Bulger 66.7%
    2 Tom Brady 61.9%
    3 Jake Delhomme 45.5%
    3 Jay Fiedler 45.5%
    5 Donovan McNabb 44.4%
    6 Jake Plummer 40.4%
    7 Peyton Manning 39.6%
    7 Vinny Testaverde 39.6%
    8 Jon Kitna 39.5%
    9 Kerry Collins 36.2%

    Notice that by percentage, Bulger moves past the rest and Delhomme, Fiedler, and McNabb also hop up the list. Meanwhile Manning and Testaverde drop out of the top five.

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    Re: Top 10 quarterbacks at comebacks since 1996

    Marc Bulger is the man.

    I can't believe that Jake Plummer has been benched. I am surprised that that the Broncos made that change this late in the season.
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    Re: Top 10 quarterbacks at comebacks since 1996

    Quote Originally Posted by 81~BIG-GAME View Post
    I would pick Brady any day for leading a come back,he doesn't get rattled easily .. With Jake Plummer being that high though it just show's that stats don't mean everything...:l
    Exactly my point, BG, when I irritate those Bulger's loyalists wearing their rose-colored glasses by daring to state Bulger actually has faults.

    Those of us who have been Rams fans awhile can get a bit of a chuckle in this category:

    Table 6. Largest average deficits overcome, minimum 2 games, 1996-present
    Rank Quarterback Deficit Games Time Remaining
    1 Sage Rosenfels 13.50 2 14:43
    2 Shane Matthews 13.00 3 12:10
    3 Tommy Maddox 10.33 3 10:41
    4 Erik Kramer 10.00 4 14:06
    5 Craig Whelihan 10.00 2 17:06
    6 Jamie Martin 9.25 4 14:01
    7 Tony Banks 9.20 5 11:10
    8 Troy Aikman 8.83 6 11:56

    I'd just as soon my team was not in a position to have to comeback from a large deficit!

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