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    Trade value for #1 pick?

    If Rams get #1 pick and decide to trade. How much can they get? The Chargers dealt the #1 pick (Eli Manning) to the Giants for two firsts (4th in 2004; 12th in 2005) and a second (in 2004).


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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    If Rams get #1 pick
    I am not going to entertain that thought as of yet. We haven't played anyone in our division yet.
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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    I'm on board. At least get something positive for this year.

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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    by Dan Kadar on Oct 17, 2011 9:25 AM EDT

    As such, it's impossible to be certain which team will be able to secure Stanford junior quarterback Andrew Luck at No. 1. As we know, the winless Indianapolis Colts and Miami Dolphins have the best chance at picking first. But with so many games left to play, it's not unreasonable to think a scenario could unfold where both teams win some games and the St. Louis Rams secures the first overall pick in the draft.

    Since the Rams just took quarterback Sam Bradford first overall in 2010, they're one of the teams not in need of Luck. That could lead to innumerable trade offers for the top pick.

    Peter King of Sports Illustrated, along with veteran NFL personnel man Ernie Accorsi, came up what it might take to trade up for Luck.

    I think three first-round picks for the first selection in the 2012 draft is more than fair if the team that earns that right is in a dealing mood. One of those picks would have to be in the top 10 of the 2012 draft. "If he's as good as everyone says he is, absolutely it's a realistic price,'' Accorsi said.

    As King points out, Accorsi essentially gave up two firsts, a third- and a fifth-round pick to trade for Eli Manning. With Luck considered to be in a higher class than Manning, the cost could be as high as three first-round picks.

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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaRam View Post
    I am not going to entertain that thought as of yet. We haven't played anyone in our division yet.
    Anyone in our division? That is what i am afraid. Imagine if we lose to Seattle, Cards and Niners? I'm sorry, i hope we win but i rather be 3-13 with #1 pick than 5-11 with 15th pick.

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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    Look at the Colts and Dolphins , they have less hope than us, especially with the schedule ahead.

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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    I've been thinking about this and running trade scenarios in my mind since the Baltimore game - as it was evident to me that the Rams had already quit.

    One major factor on the horizon is that it appears there are going to be a goodly number of high quality QBs in this draft. People like Barkley(USC), Jones(OU), Foles (Arizona) and Griffin (Baylor). While none of these in this list are the prospect that Luck is it still could complicate engineering a huge haul for a trade.

    I.E. why should someone pay 2 or 3 first rounders in addition to other choices if they could stand pat and still get a solid young prospect?

    At any rate I remain confident that once the Rams secure the first pick in the draft SOMEBODY will more than likely overpay to acquire it from us....


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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    Here are the grades for the St. Louis Rams after Sunday’s 34-7 loss to the Cowboys:

    QUARTERBACK: Seldom-seen A.J. Feeley didn’t embarrass himself as Sam Bradford’s stand-in, completing 20 of 33 passes for 196 yards and an interception. He was at his best in the quick-hit short passing game, getting the ball out quickly to beat the Cowboy pressure. But he and newcomer Brandon Lloyd didn’t get on the same page on key downfield throws and Feeley capped the afternoon with a red zone fail. Overall he was less than horrible under difficult circumstances. GRADE: C-minus.

    RUNNING BACK: Another costly turnover by Cadillac Williams – this time at the end of a nice catch-and-run play – undermined the Rams while they were still competitive in the game. Steven Jackson broke loose for a 40-yard run burst and capitalized with a 6-yard touchdown run. Otherwise it was tough going behind an overmatched offensive line: He gained 24 yards on his other 16 carries. GRADE: D.

    RECEIVERS: For much of the game they caught what came their way. Lloyd offered a nice upgrade over free-agent bust Mike Sims-Walker, catching six passes for 74 yards. But he, too, failed to make plays in the red zone when the Rams belatedly tried to dress up their score. Rookie Greg Salas (two catches, 33 yards) showed promise again in the Danny Amendola role. Danario Alexander got nothing done (one catch on six targets) and suffered a hamstring strain, perhaps paving the way for Mark Clayton’s activation. GRADE: D-plus.

    TIGHT ENDS: One play that worked for the offense: bootleg passes to Billy Bajema and Michael Hoomanawanui. They had a solid receiving day overall, combining for five catches for 64 yards. Rookie Lance Kendricks, who leads the team with 112 yards after catch this season, had no role in the offense Sunday. GRADE: C-minus.

    OFFENSIVE LINE: Right tackle Jason Smith’s disappointing career took another painful turn when he suffered a neck strain and possible concussion. Medical personnel carted him off the field carefully and took him to a local hospital for observation. Left tackle Rodger Saffold managed to keep Cowboys star DeMarcus Ware mostly under control, so that was a bright spot. But the group had a predictably hard time against the Dallas defensive front and repeatedly failed to block screen passes. GRADE: D-minus.

    DEFENSIVE LINE: The Cowboys are beset by offensive line issues. Their rushing offense was ranked 27th in the NFL. Back-up running back DeMarco Murray was just averaging 3.0 yards per carry this season. Yet the Rams allowed him to rush for 253 yards. They were terrible at the point of attack. The loss of defensive tackle Darell Scott (apparent concussion) exposed their lack of depth in the middle. GRADE: F.

    LINEBACKERS: The Cowboys gobbled them up on Murray’s 91-yard run 5 ½ minutes into the game, setting the tone for an extraordinarily long day. Brady Poppinga was a big culprit on that play. He recorded just one assist and no tackles, according to press box statistics, before departing the game in the second quarter with a calf muscle strain. These guys may want to avert their eyes during team video review. GRADE: F.

    SECONDARY: Venerable cornerback Al Harris used his strength to tie up Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant on goal-line passing plays. That was a plus. So was his fumble recovery. On the other hand, safety Quintin Mikell and the other defensive backs failed do damage control on Murray’s explosive runs. Their tackling was atrocious. The loss of cornerback Justin King (groin muscle strain) only made things worse. GRADE: D-minus.

    SPECIAL TEAMS: Donnie Jones placed three punts inside the 20-yard line and averaged 47.4 yards per kick. Quinn Porter and Austin Pettis were unexceptional in the return game. The kick coverage was OK. Place-kicker Josh Brown didn’t have much to do. GRADE: B.

    COACHING: Steve Spagnuolo was supposed to build this team from the lines out . . . and yet the Rams keep getting manhandled in the trenches, despite heavy investments there. Overall sloppiness remains pervasive six games into this winless season. One example: A defensive penalty having for too many men on the field that extended a key Dallas drive. White flag play-calling continues to limit the offense. One example: After forcing the Cowboys for settle for a long field in the third quarter, the Rams got the ball on their 40-yard line after an errant Dallas kickoff. They trailed 20-7. This was their chance to counter. Jackson carried the ball three times for a single yard. The Rams punted the ball back to the Cowboys and were pretty much done for the afternoon. The death march continued. GRADE: F.

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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldRamsfan View Post
    Here are the grades for the St. Louis Rams after Sunday’s 34-7 loss to the Cowboys:

    QUARTERBACK: Seldom-seen A.J. Feeley didn’t embarrass himself as Sam Bradford’s stand-in, completing 20 of 33 passes for 196 yards and an interception. He was at his best in the quick-hit short passing game, getting the ball out quickly to beat the Cowboy pressure. But he and newcomer Brandon Lloyd didn’t get on the same page on key downfield throws and Feeley capped the afternoon with a red zone fail. Overall he was less than horrible under difficult circumstances. GRADE: C-minus.

    RUNNING BACK: Another costly turnover by Cadillac Williams – this time at the end of a nice catch-and-run play – undermined the Rams while they were still competitive in the game. Steven Jackson broke loose for a 40-yard run burst and capitalized with a 6-yard touchdown run. Otherwise it was tough going behind an overmatched offensive line: He gained 24 yards on his other 16 carries. GRADE: D.

    RECEIVERS: For much of the game they caught what came their way. Lloyd offered a nice upgrade over free-agent bust Mike Sims-Walker, catching six passes for 74 yards. But he, too, failed to make plays in the red zone when the Rams belatedly tried to dress up their score. Rookie Greg Salas (two catches, 33 yards) showed promise again in the Danny Amendola role. Danario Alexander got nothing done (one catch on six targets) and suffered a hamstring strain, perhaps paving the way for Mark Clayton’s activation. GRADE: D-plus.

    TIGHT ENDS: One play that worked for the offense: bootleg passes to Billy Bajema and Michael Hoomanawanui. They had a solid receiving day overall, combining for five catches for 64 yards. Rookie Lance Kendricks, who leads the team with 112 yards after catch this season, had no role in the offense Sunday. GRADE: C-minus.

    OFFENSIVE LINE: Right tackle Jason Smith’s disappointing career took another painful turn when he suffered a neck strain and possible concussion. Medical personnel carted him off the field carefully and took him to a local hospital for observation. Left tackle Rodger Saffold managed to keep Cowboys star DeMarcus Ware mostly under control, so that was a bright spot. But the group had a predictably hard time against the Dallas defensive front and repeatedly failed to block screen passes. GRADE: D-minus.

    DEFENSIVE LINE: The Cowboys are beset by offensive line issues. Their rushing offense was ranked 27th in the NFL. Back-up running back DeMarco Murray was just averaging 3.0 yards per carry this season. Yet the Rams allowed him to rush for 253 yards. They were terrible at the point of attack. The loss of defensive tackle Darell Scott (apparent concussion) exposed their lack of depth in the middle. GRADE: F.

    LINEBACKERS: The Cowboys gobbled them up on Murray’s 91-yard run 5 ½ minutes into the game, setting the tone for an extraordinarily long day. Brady Poppinga was a big culprit on that play. He recorded just one assist and no tackles, according to press box statistics, before departing the game in the second quarter with a calf muscle strain. These guys may want to avert their eyes during team video review. GRADE: F.

    SECONDARY: Venerable cornerback Al Harris used his strength to tie up Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant on goal-line passing plays. That was a plus. So was his fumble recovery. On the other hand, safety Quintin Mikell and the other defensive backs failed do damage control on Murray’s explosive runs. Their tackling was atrocious. The loss of cornerback Justin King (groin muscle strain) only made things worse. GRADE: D-minus.

    SPECIAL TEAMS: Donnie Jones placed three punts inside the 20-yard line and averaged 47.4 yards per kick. Quinn Porter and Austin Pettis were unexceptional in the return game. The kick coverage was OK. Place-kicker Josh Brown didn’t have much to do. GRADE: B.

    COACHING: Steve Spagnuolo was supposed to build this team from the lines out . . . and yet the Rams keep getting manhandled in the trenches, despite heavy investments there. Overall sloppiness remains pervasive six games into this winless season. One example: A defensive penalty having for too many men on the field that extended a key Dallas drive. White flag play-calling continues to limit the offense. One example: After forcing the Cowboys for settle for a long field in the third quarter, the Rams got the ball on their 40-yard line after an errant Dallas kickoff. They trailed 20-7. This was their chance to counter. Jackson carried the ball three times for a single yard. The Rams punted the ball back to the Cowboys and were pretty much done for the afternoon. The death march continued. GRADE: F.
    C-, D, D-,F and a B for punting. Laughable!

    Definitely not the formula for success.

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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    I want 3 or 4 #1's, even if it is too early for christmas or wishful thinking.

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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    I can never root for the rams to lose, but in a year where we can possibly get 3 1s (one of which being a top 10 where we can get Jeffery or Blackmon).

    And the year is lost... Fairly enticing for our future.

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    Re: Trade value for #1 pick?

    Im thinking a 1,2,3 (This year) and a 1,2,3 for next year.
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