The two things that could prove Linehan must be fired

*BernieM* · #1 (**permalink**) -14-11-2007

Ever since Scott Linehan kept me from speaking to his assistants, I knew his days were numbered. After all, how could a coach come to St. Louis and fail to see what I bring to the team.

Now, his time is almost over. As I see it, there are two things that, if they occur, will seal his fate:

1. If He Fails To Win More Than 2 Additional Games This Year
This would clearly demonstrate that he simply cannot lead the Rams to success. The Front Office has way too much pride than to allow him to come back after a 1-3 win season.

2. If He Wins More Than 2 Additional Games This Year
This would clearly demonstrate that injuries were not the problem, as the team would then have a .500 or better second half of the season. The Front Office has way too much sense than to allow a coach who wastes an entire half-season to come back.

If neither of these two things occur, I guarantee Linehan will be back. I think he can do it, and turn things around in the future. Then, maybe he'll see my value and include me in the decisionmaking process next year.

If not, hopefully the next HC won't make me run him out of town too.

*TekeRam* · #2 (**permalink**) -14-11-2007

I don't know... if our lineup stays constant through the rest of the year it doesn't really mean that injuries were not the issue.

It would show that with a team that isn't losing it's entire offense to injuries, he can be successful. If we had only 15 or so guys who started a game this year as opposed to how many, 20 or more, we would have been better. With the injuries that the team has sustained this year, no coach could have done well. 0-8, possibly not, but not much better.

**AvengerRam** · #3 (**permalink**) -14-11-2007

Um... where to begin...

Never mind.

*r8rh8rmike* · #4 (**permalink**) -14-11-2007

Quote:

1. If He Fails To Win More Than 2 Additional Games This Year
This would clearly demonstrate that he simply cannot lead the Rams to success. The Front Office has way too much pride than to allow him to come back after a 1-3 win season.

2. If He Wins More Than 2 Additional Games This Year
This would clearly demonstrate that injuries were not the problem, as the team would then have a .500 or better second half of the season. The Front Office has way too much sense than to allow a coach who wastes an entire half-season to come back.

Couldn't get any better than this, could it Av?

**laram0** · #5 (**permalink**) -14-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by BernieM

1. If He Fails To Win More Than 2 Additional Games This Year
This would clearly demonstrate that he simply cannot lead the Rams to success. The Front Office has way too much pride than to allow him to come back after a 1-3 win season.

2. If He Wins More Than 2 Additional Games This Year
This would clearly demonstrate that injuries were not the problem, as the team would then have a .500 or better second half of the season. The Front Office has way too much sense than to allow a coach who wastes an entire half-season to come back.

I get it, this is one of those (math) word problems like I used to do in the 5th grade.

So,

1 + 2 = ADIOS !:O

I'm onto you BernieM.

*mpire* · #6 (**permalink**) -14-11-2007

Here's a thought...

Does the emphatic nature of the win indicate success in spite of the coach?
And that further success of a similar nature actually degrades his position?

If it's good enough for the West Canaan Coyotes....

*RamsInfiniti* · #7 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

This post really doesnt yield a solid argument for Linehan getting fired unless we go 2-14. If the game against the Saints was an abberation, and we get hammered along the way, it proves the game was a fluke. Actually, I think that losing to the ***** this weekend could be the final nail in his coffin.

Regardless, there is no doubt that injuries have drastically affected this season. Had we not suffered all the problems we did on the O-line, we'd like be anywhere from 3-6 to 6-3 right now. Even with the state of things, we are a few plays away from being 3-6.

If this team finishes the season 6-10, or 7-9, I don't think there is anyway they'll fire Linehan. The fact is, if we are able to rip off 6 or more wins in the second half of the season, it proves a couple things:

1. The injuries did play a huge role in the poor record. With Linehan being an inexperienced coach, he may not have been able to adapt to the changes as well as more seasoned coaching veterans: at the same time, I don't think there is any coach that could have done alot with this team given the way things have gone.

2. If we finish with a 6-10, or 7-9 record and seems continual drastic improvements on offense, maybe someone will step up and admit that Linehan is starting to "get it". As much as many of you would like him to fail, he is a young, inexperienced HEAD COACH, and it would be crazy to assume it wouldn't take him time to develop. It would be difficult to put his head on the chopping block if we play good to excellent football the second half of the season, regardless of what transpired in the first half. Maybe Linehan will end up like my Dachshund. He used to screw everything up, to the point that I was ready to ship him away. Seemingly, one day, he just started to "get it" and he has been a champion ever since.

I have no problem putting Linehan on the chopping block is we win 2 games. If we will 3 or 4, if will be very iffy. If he wins 6 or 7, and shows a strong showing in the second half, I dont think there is anyway he is gone ....

For whatever merit it holds, Linehan's coach approval rating went from 12% to 37% on ESPN.com. It looks like the performance against New Orleans was enough to get some people believing again.

Stay strong and keep cheering those Rams. Let's whip those ***** this weekend! Yea!

*Ram4Life83* · #8 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

I want to find the coach of the future. I dont care who it is, but I hate questioning the coach.

*r8rh8rmike* · #9 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

This thread is getting very entertaining.

**AvengerRam** · #10 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

I think what Bernie is saying is that, for Linehan to keep his job, the Rams have to win 2 and tie 1 of their remaining games...

Wait... that can't be right, can it?

*RamsInfiniti* · #11 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

If Linehan wins 6 games in the second half, the second argument that injuries weren't a factor and he blew the first half of the season is bogus ...

We still have a makeshift offensive line, we still have injuries about on offense, and if he rights this ship and we have offensive performances like we did against the Saints, you can't just say its because we're healthy, its because he is IMPROVING. Yes, all the haters out there, it is possible ....

Lets see what happens ....

**AvengerRam** · #12 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

Well I certainly imagine that Bernie could be considered a hater.

*ramsfan2.0* · #13 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

I don't believe that linehan would be fired, not after 2 seasons, he has potential to bring this team up, we haven't had a real good season since we went 12-4, and lost in the playoffs to the panthers in double overtime. That was like 3 years ago, if not a little longer. I believe he has alot of skills as a coach, the person needing firing is our Assitant Head Coach, the guy that took over for Mike Martz when he had his stroke awhile back. that guy is trash, and doesn't deserve to be apart of a team, who everyone knows can win! like the guy above has said, Our O line isn't the greatest, but linehan saw something, and now has mentioned continuing the rotation on the right tackle position. only because each of the 2 are good at different things, and it spices things up on that side, and the defense can not contain on them! But once we get orlando back and healthy next year, and Barron can move back, as long as we keep our Offensive weapons, we're due a 11-5 or better record!

*Fat Pang* · #14 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

Sounds like someone else has a hotline to BernieM..........................

I got a personal gift from BernieM earlier and I must say it did make me smile this morning.

Genuinely

*RamOfDenmark* · #15 (**permalink**) -15-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramsfan2.0

the person needing firing is our Assitant Head Coach, the guy that took over for Mike Martz when he had his stroke awhile back. that guy is trash, and doesn't deserve to be apart of a team, who everyone knows can win!

Joe Vitt? If you think he should be fired from the Rams I may have some good news for you

Oh, and I don't believe what Martz had was as serious as a stroke either, more like an infection, but that's just details.