All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:30 PM.
Home Contact us FAQ

ClanRam
2008 Schedule
Regular Season
9/7 Eagles L 3 - 38
9/14 Giants L 13-41
9/21 Seahawks L 13-37
9/28 Bills L 14-31
10/5
BYE
 
10/12 Redskins W 19-17
10/19 Cowboys W 34-14
10/26 Patriots L 16-23
11/10 Cardinals L 13-34
11/10 Jets L 3-47
11/16 Whiners L 16-35
11/23 Bears L 3-27
11/30 Dolphins L 12-16
12/7 Cardinals - 3:15pm
12/14 Seahawks - Noon
12/21 Whiners - Noon
12/28 Falcons - Noon
All times Central
Score in italics: Overtime

Go Back   The ClanRam Forums > THE 2008 SEASON > RAM TALK

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
Facing-The-Giant's Avatar
Facing-The-Giant
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ladue, Missouri
Posts: 519
Rep Power: 0
Facing-The-Giant - is sitting in the middle of the road
what about 3-4??

just think about it. we can have james hall, la'roi glover, and leonard little as our 3 down lineman. then have chillar, draft, spoon, and pisa as our backers, with tye hill and fahkir brown as the corners, with OJ at FS, and corey at SS. ofcourse if we draft another DT, Preferably Amobi Okoye, then this would never work, just an interesting thought.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
Bar-bq's Avatar
Bar-bq
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New South Wales
Posts: 1,549
Rep Power: 20
Bar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant future
Re: what about 3-4??

No. Not right now.

Little would be best suited as an outside backer in the 3-4. I guarantee you there is nobody big enough in our system to play the NT. We need ends that can stop the run and free up our LBs to make plays. We'd have a huge hole at DT, and aditionally a big one at LDE, and possibly RDE. Adeyanju is unproven, and raw at best. His strength is against the run, but how does he develop?

Basically, we need a huge anchor for the 3-4 to be successful. Look at where it's worked. Dallas got rid of La'Roi glover for not being able to play the NT in the 3-4. Pittsburgh has a giant DT. The Patriots have Seymour at DE and Vincent Wilfork at NT. We have noobody whose size or skill compares right now, so it's not a hugely viablle option, in my books.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
Facing-The-Giant's Avatar
Facing-The-Giant
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ladue, Missouri
Posts: 519
Rep Power: 0
Facing-The-Giant - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: what about 3-4??

I realize all of that, but it was just an idea, besides amobi okoye or alan branch could fix that problem.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
andy82's Avatar
andy82
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southend-On-Sea
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 0
andy82 - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: what about 3-4??

Adam Carriker or even the Tank would go a long way

Last edited by andy82; -24-03-2007 at 02:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
CRAZYHORNS's Avatar
CRAZYHORNS
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Maryland near DC
Age: 41
Posts: 312
Rep Power: 5
CRAZYHORNS - will become famous soon enough
Re: what about 3-4??

Okoye and Branch can fix the problem. Are you sure just like Lewis, Pickett, Kennedy did?

I'm not a big fan of drafting Defensive Or Offensive Lineman in the 1st round unless you think you have a phenom like Pace etc.....
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
keith m. klink's Avatar
keith m. klink
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: new york
Posts: 857
Rep Power: 4
keith m. klink is a jewel in the roughkeith m. klink is a jewel in the roughkeith m. klink is a jewel in the rough
Re: what about 3-4??

WOW, you have quite the imagination, yea , let's just do that, now we are a 3-4 team. poof, everything is all better. wow, we should have done this years ago. look how simple it was. and now the defense is all fixed. man , you got all the answers. what were we thinking on this site about the people we want to be drafted. it sure would seem we were all wrong again. good job kid.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
Facing-The-Giant's Avatar
Facing-The-Giant
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ladue, Missouri
Posts: 519
Rep Power: 0
Facing-The-Giant - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: what about 3-4??

3-4 is better against the run. I understand that we don't have the right players for it, but A little 3-4 during the season would be ok.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
Brain Daddy's Avatar
Brain Daddy
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Portsmouth, Virginia
Age: 25
Posts: 236
Rep Power: 4
Brain Daddy has a spectacular aura aboutBrain Daddy has a spectacular aura about
Re: what about 3-4??

Maybe here and there, but not as your base defense.

You don't have a NT. This is pretty much the keystone of 3-4. If you don't have that NT eating up at least 2 blockers, you're going to have Olinemen on your 'backers, eliminating advantages of the 3-4. Carriker and Okoye would both be DEs in the 3-4. Branch has the size to play NT, but he's a bit of a risk. That's assuming any one of them is there at #13.

Glover would more than likely be a DE, but the other DE spot would be a question mark. Leonard Little is too small to be a DE and would more than likely be an OLB. Hall might be able to play the other DE, he's a bit on the smallish side.

If you thought your defense was bad against the run last year, it would be even worse if your coaching staff up and switched. You don't have the personnel for it , and it might take 1 or 2 years to make the shift.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old -24-03-2007
Facing-The-Giant's Avatar
Facing-The-Giant
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ladue, Missouri
Posts: 519
Rep Power: 0
Facing-The-Giant - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: what about 3-4??

didint we play a little 3-4 here and there last year?? I think i remember jim saying we would show a 3-4 look every once and a while. i agree that this would take years to change, and in the end it may not be worth it, I just want to get better on defense, and I don't care how we do it as long as we do. I think you will all agree on that.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old -25-03-2007
Bar-bq's Avatar
Bar-bq
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New South Wales
Posts: 1,549
Rep Power: 20
Bar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant futureBar-bq has a brilliant future
Re: what about 3-4??

I still don't think the 3-4 is the answer. We don't have the massive NT required to even dabble in the 3-4 allignment. We'd get absolutely torched.

As for getting better on defense- tally ho!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old -25-03-2007
Nick's Avatar
Nick
Status: Online
Superbowl MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Morgantown, WV
Age: 26
Posts: 11,795
Rep Power: 42
Nick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: what about 3-4??

We can't even find a nose tackle for the 4-3, let alone for a 3-4.

It's curious that people like this defensive scheme as much as they do. For the Rams in the near, I don't see it being anything more than an occasional alignment at best.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old -25-03-2007
Facing-The-Giant's Avatar
Facing-The-Giant
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ladue, Missouri
Posts: 519
Rep Power: 0
Facing-The-Giant - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: what about 3-4??

I remember when we played the seahawks last year in seattle, we played 3-4 for 2 plays. looked ok, but not spectacular.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old -25-03-2007
81~BIG-GAME's Avatar
81~BIG-GAME
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Belfast,Northern Ireland
Age: 24
Posts: 591
Rep Power: 3
81~BIG-GAME - will become famous soon enough81~BIG-GAME - will become famous soon enough
Re: what about 3-4??

Quote:
Originally Posted by Facing-The-Giant View Post
I remember when we played the seahawks last year in seattle, we played 3-4 for 2 plays. looked ok, but not spectacular.
Well there you go Einstein,forget about 3-4..
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old -26-03-2007
Facing-The-Giant's Avatar
Facing-The-Giant
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ladue, Missouri
Posts: 519
Rep Power: 0
Facing-The-Giant - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: what about 3-4??

It just seems to work so well for the chargers. but then again they have a massive NT too.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old -26-03-2007
Goldenfleece's Avatar
Goldenfleece
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: D.C. Suburbs
Age: 27
Posts: 2,010
Rep Power: 21
Goldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud ofGoldenfleece has much to be proud of
Re: what about 3-4??

Any scheme's success is going to rely largely on how well it fits the personnel you have. The Chargers, Patriots, and Steelers have all had top defenses in recent years using the 3-4, so I can see why it would be popular, but I don't think it would suit our strengths at the moment. Dallas let Glover go because he didn't really fit into their 3-4 scheme that well, and the outside 'backers in a 3-4 have to be strong enough to take on blockers if necessary because a main part of their job is rushing off the edge. Little could be one of our outside linebackers, but it would be an adjustment for him and I'm not convinced that Tinoisamoa or Chillar would do as well in that scheme.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:30 PM.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
ClanRam.com is an independent fan site and not associated with the St Louis Rams or the NFL (National Football League). All content within this Rams fan page is provided by, and for, Rams fans. Copyright © ClanRam.com