what are the chances of a trade before the deadline??

*Drew4EverRams* · #1 (**permalink**) -19-09-2006

Bulger not working out so far may get killed before the end of the season with the way our line are playing due to injuries and ineptness-martz might like to have his pet back in detroit,detroit have a good O-lineman or two,im thinking maybe trade bulger possibly throw in mcdonald for damien woody OG/C and a high draft pick ??

upside of trade-gus frerotte knows linehan`s system,done a decent job last year with limited wr talent,first pick next year we go QB,gus mentors him for a year,O-line gets solid with addition of a top lineman that can play centre and guard to a high standard,we may just make the playoffs this year!

downside-bulger may have worked out system given time and second rate and injured lineman may produce a miracle before bulger gets killed and he may go on to be the missing piece in the detroit puzzle!

butler seems very much on the outside and probably 5th choice behind bartell-not sure who might be interested in him,might be worth putting a few feelers out there to see what we may get in return,hopefully a solid O-lineman

trade hargrove for reggie white`s urn,suit it up and watch our productivity at de tenfold!!!

*ramsbruce* · #2 (**permalink**) -19-09-2006

Now we are exploring trading Bulger after only 2 games? Wow, I don't even know what to say some of this stuff anymore. Have some patience.

*RamsFan16* · #3 (**permalink**) -19-09-2006

I know I bashed our recievers and all and Bulger saying how they woudln't work out in the system and all, thats my current opinion until proven otherwise. If say by Week 6 (Deadline I think) we still haven't caught on or Bulger can't figure the system or something would we make a quick trade of Bulger?

Or is it possible to wait until the offseason to trade Bulger and a WR to Oakland for Moss? A Linehan guy. I know you'll say its madden but who knows. And then Draft a QB First round, someone that Linehan can raise and tame in his system say Troy Smith?

All the possibilities.

*ramsbruce* · #4 (**permalink**) -19-09-2006

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Originally Posted by RamsFan16

I know I bashed our recievers and all and Bulger saying how they woudln't work out in the system and all, thats my current opinion until proven otherwise. If say by Week 6 (Deadline I think) we still haven't caught on or Bulger can't figure the system or something would we make a quick trade of Bulger?

Go back and read the thread again, it was proven otherwise by many people.

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Originally Posted by RamsFan16

Or is it possible to wait until the offseason to trade Bulger and a WR to Oakland for Moss? A Linehan guy. I know you'll say its madden but who knows. And then Draft a QB First round, someone that Linehan can raise and tame in his system say Troy Smith?

All the possibilities.

Now I've heard it all, trading Bulger for Moss. Unbelievable. :\

**Nick** · #5 (**permalink**) -19-09-2006

I'm going to have to check my Firefox options, because suddenly I feel like the ClanRam.com bookmark I have in my favorites is instead linking me to the knee-jerk Post Dispatch message board. :x

Bulger's been in the same system for 4-5 years. It's essentially the only system he's had experience in as a pro, and he's worked hard to try and master it. Now, he's played two regular season games in a system that's almost a 180-turn from how he's been brought up under Martz, and thus far, has been rather mediocre.

Yet even in his mediocrity, Bulger has still played better than Gus Frerotte did last year as a full-time starter in Miami, where Frerotte wasn't exactly starving for weapons with Chris Chambers, Randy McMichael, Ronnie Brown, and Ricky Williams on the team.

Frerotte of course finished the 2005 season with a QB rating worse than Bulger's current rating, had a lower QB rating than Bulger's current rating in 11 of his 16 games last year, and had six games last season where his rating was below 60! How someone can say Frerotte in 2005 did a decent job only to turn around and advocate trading Bulger because he's not working out so far makes my head spin.

People need to understand that when you bring in a new head coach, you're going to have growing pains. And those growing pains aren't sorted out in a handful of weeks during the summer and a couple of games at the start the season. Even powerhouse offenses like Seattle, Denver, and Washington are having trouble getting off the ground in '06. I wonder if they should start talking about trading their players as well two weeks into the year.

The idea about trading Bulger and a receiver to Oakland for Moss is, as RF16 said immediately after mentioning it, something you do in Madden. Let's turn off the PS2 and hop back to reality.

*norcalramfan* · #6 (**permalink**) -19-09-2006

I said it before the season started! give this team a month of sundays to sort this out. I have gone thru thirtyfive years of this to panic now. and i suggest the rest of you do the same.

*MATEOBURRITO* · #7 (**permalink**) -19-09-2006

If we wanted to trade for a QB, we should have NOT traded our #11 pick to Denver. That would have been the easiest solution to the "situation" some poeple say we have on our hands now. Relax people. It may take a few games for Bulger and the boys to get this offense down. This isn't Martz's offense. In Martz's offense, almost anyone could succeed because the plays were so well designed that there was almost no way to defend them. Linehan's offense appears to be a) a lot more predictable and b) a lot more balanced. That said, guys are going to have to do a better job of helping one another out on offense. Furthermore, they're going to have to do a better job of ensuring that plays happen. Like I say, in Martz's offense, the plays seemed to make themselves happen...the players were just pawns.

*Varg6* · #8 (**permalink**) -19-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Nick

I'm going to have to check my Firefox options, because suddenly I feel like the ClanRam.com bookmark I have in my favorites is instead linking me to the knee-jerk Post Dispatch message board. :x

Bulger's been in the same system for 4-5 years. It's essentially the only system he's had experience in as a pro, and he's worked hard to try and master it. Now, he's played two regular season games in a system that's almost a 180-turn from how he's been brought up under Martz, and thus far, has been rather mediocre.

Yet even in his mediocrity, Bulger has still played better than Gus Frerotte did last year as a full-time starter in Miami, where Frerotte wasn't exactly starving for weapons with Chris Chambers, Randy McMichael, Ronnie Brown, and Ricky Williams on the team.

Frerotte of course finished the 2005 season with a QB rating worse than Bulger's current rating, had a lower QB rating than Bulger's current rating in 11 of his 16 games last year, and had six games last season where his rating was below 60! How someone can say Frerotte in 2005 did a decent job only to turn around and advocate trading Bulger because he's not working out so far makes my head spin.

People need to understand that when you bring in a new head coach, you're going to have growing pains. And those growing pains aren't sorted out in a handful of weeks during the summer and a couple of games at the start the season. Even powerhouse offenses like Seattle, Denver, and Washington are having trouble getting off the ground in '06. I wonder if they should start talking about trading their players as well two weeks into the year.

The idea about trading Bulger and a receiver to Oakland for Moss is, as RF16 said immediately after mentioning it, something you do in Madden. Let's turn off the PS2 and hop back to reality.

Nick, why do you even explain anymore? I honestly don't think as much as we preach this stuff, people will STILL not understand it. I feel bad...for you! You're wasting your energy trying to explain this to people, you'd be better off explaining it to a wall. No offense to anyone, but this is absolutely absurd. If the Colts had a totally differen't offense, and Peyton wasn't looking as good as he was, would any espn "expert" ever trade him to another team because he's not looking good yet. NO. So please guys, just stop talking this crazy talk! It's killing us, it really is, it's upsetting to see so many "fans" give up on their team so easily. if we go 1-15 this year, this board is gonna be quite empty the way some of you guys are acting, you'll just immediately change your team or something. Just chill out guys. Honestly, I'd rather us have a not so good year this year, and then have next year be an amazing year and show everyone what we can do. We shouldn't expect so much from these guys THAT quickly. Do I think it'll take a year before we get our offense together? No, I'm just simply stating that worst case scenario...Please guys, for the LAST time, stop worrying so much.

*Milan* · #9 (**permalink**) -20-09-2006

That's actually a hell of a plan but I disagree because I think Bulger's gonna be pretty good.

*ramsanddodgers* · #10 (**permalink**) -20-09-2006

Wow, I know they talk a bit funny over there but I think he went to 1 pub too many before sitting down to try and put this thoughts onto a monitor.

Maybe I am too tired but I hate having to think so hard to try and figure out what someone is saying. My attention span isn't that long anymore.

Week 2 with a known- to-be-good QB and an unknown coach/system is too ealry to start throwing the baby out with the bath water.

We have the players, on paper, and there are 15 weeks left...

RnD

GO RAMS!!

**HUbison** · #11 (**permalink**) -20-09-2006

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Originally Posted by RF16

is it possible to wait until the offseason to trade Bulger and a WR to Oakland for Moss?

Read: Is it possible to trade the leader of this team for a cancer?

Come on, guys. Eight quarters of a new system at game speed is not going to produce a pro bowler. I know it's a word quickly becoming a cliche, but......patience, patience, patience.

*maineram* · #12 (**permalink**) -20-09-2006

One word sums up this post

WOW !!!!!

Maineram -

*AugustaRamFan* · #13 (**permalink**) -20-09-2006

If there were a trade it would not involve Bulger or any other starter. Not sure what could be had unless you added in a draft pick for 2007.

A trade...possible not probable...

*ramstiles* · #14 (**permalink**) -20-09-2006

we need to be patient it will not happen overnight you should look at this season as the learning curve we are at the bottom now and hopefully at the end of the season we will be at the top and looking forward to next season

*bruce4life* · #15 (**permalink**) -20-09-2006

we're not trading bulger so get over it people... if we would of won the niner game on sunday none of this nonsense would be brought up. Bulger hasnt thrown an interception yet, our turnrover ratio is what 2nd in the league right now? any team with a high plus/minus ratio in the league almost always has good season. we're 1-1 people its alright, bulger will light it up this weekend