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    What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    I'm sure it isn't possible with our current roster, but what would it take?

    VA could be a very good DE in a 3-4 IMO and Little could rush from the corner in an OLB spot. I know that Glover isn't a 3-4 guy, but there would always be situations where the Rams could use a 4-3. In my crude understanding of the 3-4 we need 2 big DE's (got one I believe in VA), 1 monster in the middle, 1 or 2 big fast guys to rush the corner (could we use Little like Miami uses JT?) and another guy to play in the middle.

    Potential Lineup:
    RDE - VA
    LDE- CW/LG
    NT-Kennedy/1st-2nd round pick or FA
    LOLB-LL
    MLB- 1st-2nd round pick or FA
    MLB- WW
    ROLB-PT

    we've already got a good idea of what the secondary will look like.

    It's just a thought. I've always been a fan of the 3-4 and was curious if you guys thought it could be possible. Maybe, not probable, but possible.


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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    I'd say...

    1. They'd need a true man/mountain NT.
    2. Adeyanju and Wroten probably the best candidates for the DEs.
    3. Little and Witherspoon would be the best OLB candidates.
    4. They'd need two inside LBs.
    5. They'd need a new place for Pisa (SS, maybe).

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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    I'd say...

    1. They'd need a true man/mountain NT.
    2. Adeyanju and Wroten probably the best candidates for the DEs.
    3. Little and Witherspoon would be the best OLB candidates.
    4. They'd need two inside LBs.
    5. They'd need a new place for Pisa (SS, maybe).
    DE's= a combination of Wroten,Adeyanju,Little
    NT's= Kennedy and FA/Draft pick
    ILB's= Witherspoon and FA/Draft Picks
    OLB's= Pisa, Chillar? and FA/Drafts Picks

    Leavin Coakley,Alston, Smith

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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    I guess that would make FA Adalius Thomas an intrigueing prospect?

    If you were to go that way with it.

    Seem's like you could rotate Pisa, Spoon on the right side and as versatile as Spoon is you could keep him on the field on the outside or inside.

    There could potentially be a bunch of rotation going on with our current defensive stable.

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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    We would have to be bigger in the front 7. Miracle-Gro for everyone! And either a ton of position changes, or a brand new cast of characters.

    At a minimum, I'd say....

    Ends - Glover, Wroten, and a bulkier Vic
    NT - a more reliable Kennedy and another wide-body to spell him
    OLB - Little and (are you ready for this one?) Green
    ILB - Pisa, Spoon, and Alston

    Chillar and Coakley could probably find a place in there as well, but unless Green really took to the position, we'd have to find another OLB in the world of 'tweeners.

    Sidenote: I think the two names with the most to gain from this is Alston and Green. IMO, both could flourish in that alignment with our current personnel.
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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    i just dont think we have the big, nasty casey hampton/jamal williams type dt that is needed to make the 3-4 successful.

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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    I don't think it looks promising based on what we have...

    DE: Wroten
    NT: ???
    DE: Adeyanju

    OLB: Leonard Little
    ILB: Witherspoon
    ILB: Chillar?
    OLB: ???

    Odd Men Out: Glover, Pisa, Kennedy, Green

    We don't have a big mammoth nose tackle who is going to hold up at the line and clog the A gaps. We don't have ideal inside linebackers but I put WW and Chillar in there just to be generous - Chillar strikes me as a better fit than WW. Wroten may be a solid option as a 3-4 defensive end but I think Adeyanju would be more miscast there. We don't have an ideal outside linebacker to pair with Little in this configuration. Brandon Green may have a role but I'm in no way convinced he has the kind of agility necessary to play standing up.

    I just don't see it, at least not in terms of making it a base package and building your defense around it. We could probably show some more 3-4 looks at times but I don't think we're close to having the personnel to be successful with it on a regular basis.
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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    Here is how I would line them up. Not saying we would be any good.


    DE: Green/Wroten
    NT: Keith Traylor. Position: NT Height: 6-2 Weight: 337 FA / Kennedy
    DE: Adeyanju/Wroten

    OLB: Leonard Little/Jon Alston
    ILB: Witherspoon/Brandon Chillar
    ILB: Quentin Moses Draft/Raonall Smith
    OLB: Pisa/Jon Alston

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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambos View Post
    ILB: Quentin Moses
    College DEs drafted for the 3-4 generally play outside linebacker, not inside.
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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    College DEs drafted for the 3-4 generally play outside linebacker, not inside.
    Yeah I know but we are small, he would give us some size iside.

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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambos View Post
    Yeah I know but we are small, he would give us some size iside.
    The question isn't about size but skill set. He's a speedy rusher who excels at getting to the passer from the corner using his athleticism, which is why an outside linebacker transition would make sense. He's not however a very physical player and isn't very good against the run, making an ILB transition questionable.

    That's why most if not all college DEs who make a transfer to LB in the 3-4 go to the outside, because that's where their pass rushing skills will be best used.
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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    Well, I'd say either way we need a nose tackle and a middle linebacker. The main problem I see with it is that--like it or not--we've got a linebacker corps tooled for speed, not for taking on blockers. Yes, we could shuffle everybody around. We could move Wroten to DE, Little off the line, the current strongside backers inside, and so on, but I'm not sure that would be the best use of our personnel. Do we want Little dropping into coverage often or rushing the passer on every play? Would we rather have Alston's pass-rushing ability on the field or Pisa's play-making ability? Is Alston ready to be an NFL starter or big enough to be a 3-4 OLB? Both Pisa and Witherspoon seem best suited for the weakside linebacker position, and there isn't really an equivalent in the 3-4. If our guys are already having trouble fighting through blocks, how well are they going to do with one less big body on the line?

    The way I see it is that we probably could figure out a way to implement a 3-4, but it wouldn't take full advantage of the strengths of our best players.

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    Re: What would it take to convert to a 3-4??

    we have to stay with the 4-3 right now, we need all the pass rush we can get, so we should try and get a stacked DL before anything else,

    if anything changing to a 3-4 will set us even further back with the transition period and everything

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