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    Who will we cut tomorrow?

    So, just got done reading that Derrick Mason, Willis McGahee, Kelly Gregg, and Todd Heap.. gone. All will be cut tomorrow to save cash, sign young talent, and get under the cap.

    With that being said, we have a lot of potential cuts ourselves tomorrow.

    To get this info, google USA TODAY RAMS SALARIES. Since we can't post links, n all.

    These numbers are old, but I can't find new ones. Anyone find the new salaries for this year?

    Who is going to get the ax?

    I could see guys like James Butler gone for sure. Hell, our kicker is going to count around 3 million to the cap (3 million).




    PLAYER BASE SALARY SIGN BONUS ALL BONUSES CAP VALUE SALARY POSITION
    Long, Chris $ 385,000 $ 6,294,780 $ 16,592,280 Defensive End
    Brown, Jason $ 4,000,000 $ 11,000,000 $ 6,207,150 $ 15,007,150 Outside Linebacker
    Bulger, Marc $ 6,500,000 $ 8,507,280 $ 6,507,280 Quarterback
    Atogwe, Oshiomogho $ 6,342,021 $ 6,349,171 $ 6,349,171 Safety
    Jackson, Steven $ 5,500,000 $ 7,406,446 $ 5,507,280 Running Back
    Bell, Jacob $ 4,000,000 $ 5,173,426 $ 4,006,760 Outside Linebacker
    McMichael, Randy $ 3,600,000 $ 4,607,280 $ 3,607,280 Tight End
    Bartell, Ronald $ 3,450,000 $ 4,916,530 $ 3,454,030 Cornerback
    Smith, Jason $ 310,000 $ 2,930,000 $ 2,930,000 Outside Linebacker
    Little, Leonard $ 845,000 $ 6,207,150 $ 2,506,760 Defensive End
    Barron, Alex $ 2,482,500 $ 3,716,760 $ 2,489,260 Outside Linebacker
    Butler, James $ 1,925,000 $ 2,200,900 $ 1,932,150 Safety
    Brown, Josh $ 1,800,000 $ 2,606,760 $ 1,806,760 Punter/Kicker
    Thomas, Chris $ 1,800,000 $ 2,606,760 $ 1,806,760 Punter/Kicker
    Boller, Kyle $ 1,250,000 $ 1,505,200 $ 1,505,200 Quarterback
    Adeyanju, Victor $ 1,010,000 $ 1,017,150 $ 1,017,150 Defensive End
    Incognito, Richie $ 1,010,000 $ 1,017,150 $ 1,017,150 Outside Linebacker
    Hall, James $ 800,000 $ 1,357,280 $ 1,007,280 Defensive End
    Jones, Donnie $ 1,007,280 $ 1,242,280 $ 1,007,280 Punter/Kicker
    Karney, Mike $ 700,000 $ 1,023,816 $ 932,150 Running Back
    Laurinaitis, James $ 310,000 $ 850,000 $ 850,000 Linebacker
    Lenon, Paris $ 745,000 $ 50,000 $ 432,941 $ 795,000 Linebacker
    Massey, Chris $ 745,000 $ 460,000 $ 745,000 Running Back
    Carriker, Adam $ 720,000 $ 2,107,280 $ 727,280 Defensive Tackle
    Smith, Anthony $ 535,000 $ 535,000 $ 710,000 Safety
    Goldberg, Adam $ 620,000 $ 676,760 $ 626,760 Outside Linebacker
    Bajema, Billy $ 620,000 $ 659,573 $ 626,240 Tight End
    Carter, Tim $ 620,000 $ 324,705 $ 620,000 Wide Receiver
    Gado, Samkon $ 535,000 $ 542,280 $ 542,280 Running Back
    Ramsey, LaJuan $ 535,000 $ 535,000 $ 540,980 Defensive Tackle
    Martin, Ruvell $ 535,000 $ 503,529 $ 535,000 Wide Receiver
    Wroten, Claude $ 530,000 $ 719,411 $ 530,000 Defensive Tackle
    Gibson, Gary $ 460,000 $ 502,188 $ 510,000 Defensive Tackle
    Foster, Brooks $ 310,000 $ 175,571 $ 353,892 $ 485,571 Wide Receiver
    Bassey, Eric $ 460,000 $ 252,280 $ 467,280 Cornerback
    Darby, Kenneth $ 460,000 $ 467,280 $ 467,280 Running Back
    Fells, Daniel $ 460,000 $ 467,280 $ 467,280 Tight End
    Ryan, Clifton $ 460,000 $ 510,280 $ 467,280 Defensive Tackle
    Setterstrom, Mark $ 460,000 $ 467,150 $ 467,150 Outside Linebacker
    Robinson, Laurent $ 460,000 $ 378,520 $ 464,550 Wide Receiver
    Avery, Donnie $ 456,250 $ 919,530 $ 463,530 Wide Receiver
    Dahl, Craig $ 385,000 $ 392,280 $ 412,280 Safety
    Burton, Keenan $ 385,000 $ 495,280 $ 392,280 Wide Receiver
    Butler, Quincy $ 385,000 $ 392,280 $ 392,280 Cornerback
    Chamberlain, Chris $ 385,000 $ 404,313 $ 392,280 Cornerback
    Grant, Larry $ 385,000 $ 392,280 $ 392,280 Linebacker
    Greco, John $ 385,000 $ 606,913 $ 392,280 Outside Linebacker
    Vobora, David $ 385,000 $ 392,280 $ 392,280 Linebacker
    Douzable, Leger $ 385,000 $ 317,059 $ 385,000 Defensive Tackle
    Null, Keith $ 310,000 $ 356,625 $ 337,500 Quarterback
    Ah You, C.J. $ 310,000 $ 317,280 $ 317,280 Defensive End
    King, Justin $ 310,000 $ 442,613 $ 317,280 Cornerback
    Roach, David $ 310,000 $ 317,280 $ 317,280 Safety
    Allen, Roger $ 310,000 $ 316,666 $ 310,000 Outside Linebacker
    Amendola, Danny $ 310,000 $ 273,529 $ 310,000 Wide Receiver
    Asiodu, K.C. $ 310,000 $ 200,588 $ 310,000 Linebacker
    Douglas, Dominic $ 310,000 $ 313,250 $ 310,000 Linebacker
    Fletcher, Bradley $ 310,000 $ 533,074 $ 310,000 Cornerback
    Scott, Dorell $ 310,000 $ 439,929 $ 310,000 Defensive Tackle
    Trautwein, Phil $ 310,000 $ 200,588 $ 310,000 Outside Linebacker


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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    Laurent Robinson
    And your list is old.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    Yea, I said my list was old. And Laurent Robinson is a FA.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    So many numbers lol, but from that list, I would probably cut Marc Bulger, Brooks Foster, Alex Barron, and Adam Carriker just to name a few

    In all seriousness, it could very well be the end of the Mardy Gilyard experiment. Wouldn't be surprised to see Brandon Gibson get the axe as well.

    Though I believe we are currently under the cap, and can carry 90 players, so I wouldn't be surprised if we don't cut anyone for awhile.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    It's not necessarily pretty, but this is the Contract page for the Rams on Rotoworld's website. Feel free to go there to see it in a better format, but this gives us a more updated list of who is under contract and for how much. I believe it also lists unsigned draft picks and impending free agents.

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    C.J. Ah You    Defensive Lineman    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent
    
    Danario Alexander    Wide Receiver    10/11/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.825 million contract. The deal included a $35,000 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Danny Amendola    Wide Receiver    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent
    
    Donnie Avery    Wide Receiver    2011: $638,750, 2012: Free Agent
    
    Billy Bajema    Tight End    2011: $985,000, 2012: Free Agent
    
    Mikail Baker    Defensive Back    
    
    Ronald Bartell    Defensive Back    3/2/2009: Signed a four-year, $25 million contract. The deal contains $13.6 million guaranteed, including a $5 million signing bonus and Bartell's base salaries in years one and two. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2011: $5.2 million, 2012: $6.2 million, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Jacob Bell    Guard    3/3/2008: Signed a six-year, $36 million contract. The deal contains $13 million guaranteed, including a $7 million signing bonus and his first two base salaries. 2011-2013: $6 million, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Sam Bradford    Quarterback    7/30/2010: Signed a six-year, $78 million contract. The deal contains $50 million guaranteed, including all six years' base salaries and a $2.88 million first-year roster bonus. Another $8 million is available through incentives based on playoff, Super Bowl, and Pro Bowl appearances. 2011: $405,000 (+ $17.974 million "signing" bonus), 2012: $1.205 million, 2013: $2.005 million, 2014: $2.805 million, 2015: $3.605 million, 2016: Free Agent
    
    Josh Brown    Place Kicker    2/29/2008: Signed a five-year, $14.2 million contract. The deal included a $4 million signing bonus. 2011: 2.6 million, 2012: $2.7 million, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Jason Brown    Center    2/28/2009: Signed a five-year, $37.5 million contract. The deal contains $20 million guaranteed, including an $11 million signing bonus and the base salaries in years one and two. Brown's contract will void after the 2012 season if he reaches incentives based on wins and performance. The Rams can also "buy back" the year by adding $2.3 million to Brown's 2013 base salary. 2011: $4 million, 2012: $5 million, 2013: $6.2 million, 2014: Free Agent
    
    James Butler    Defensive Back    3/9/2009: Signed a four-year, $14 million contract. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2011: $3 million, 2012: $3.5 million, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Chris Chamberlain    Linebacker    2011: Restricted Free Agent (Low Tender)
    
    Mark Clayton    Wide Receiver    2011: Free Agent
    
    Jermelle Cudjo    Defensive Lineman    2011: $405,000, 2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent
    
    Dominique Curry    Wide Receiver    2011: $405,000, 2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent
    
    Craig Dahl    Defensive Back    3/5/2010: Signed a three-year, $3.6 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $755,000. 2011: $1.1 million, 2012: $1.2 million (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent
    
    Kenneth Darby    Running Back    2011: Free Agent
    
    Na'il Diggs    Linebacker    2011: $1.25 million, 2012: Free Agent
    
    A.J. Feeley    Quarterback    2011: $2.25 million, 2012: Free Agent
    
    Daniel Fells    Tight End    2011: Free Agent
    
    Bradley Fletcher    Defensive Back    7/10/2009: Signed a four-year, $2.642 million contract. The deal included an $892,298 signing bonus. 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Renardo Foster    Tackle    2011: Restricted Free Agent (Low Tender)
    
    Hank Fraley    Center    3/14/2010: Signed a three-year, $3.055 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $200,000. 2011-2012: $1 million, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Brandon Gibson    Wide Receiver    6/6/2009: Signed a four-year, $1.850 million contract. The deal included a $100,000 signing bonus. 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Gary Gibson    Defensive Lineman    2011: Free Agent
    
    Mardy Gilyard    Wide Receiver    6/28/2010: Signed a four-year, $2.342 million contract. The deal included a $552,255 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Adam Goldberg    Tackle    2011: Free Agent
    
    Larry Grant    Linebacker    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent
    
    John Greco    Tackle    2011: Restricted Free Agent (Low Tender)
    
    James Hall    Defensive Lineman    3/22/2010: Signed a three-year, $8.25 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $1.895 million. 2011-2012: $2.75 million, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Andrew Hawkins    Wide Receiver    1/12/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Jermale Hines    Defensive Back    
    
    Michael Hoomanawanui    Tight End    6/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $2.0055 million contract. The deal included a $215,512 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Josh Hull    Linebacker    6/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.8255 million contract. The deal included a $35,553 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Steven Jackson    Running Back    8/21/2008: Signed a six-year, $44.805 million contract. The deal contains $20.5 million guaranteed, including an $11.395 million signing bonus. Another $4.495 million is available through incentives. He must average 1,200 yards rushing and 400 yards receiving over the first four years to void the final two seasons on his contract. 2011: $7.2 million, 2012-2013: $7 million (Voidable Years), 2014: Free Agent
    
    Marquis Johnson    Defensive Back    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Donnie Jones    Punter    2011: $1.1 million, 2012: Free Agent
    
    Bryan Kehl    Linebacker    2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent
    
    Lance Kendricks    Tight End    
    
    Justin King    Defensive Back    3/3/2011: Signed an undisclosed contract.
    
    James Laurinaitis    Linebacker    7/29/2009: Signed a four-year, $5.09 million contract. The deal contains $3.29 million guaranteed. 2011: $500,000, 2012: $620,000, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Thaddeus Lewis    Quarterback    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Michael Lewis    Defensive Back    2011: Free Agent
    
    Chris Long    Defensive Lineman    7/20/2008: Signed a five-year, $48 million contract. The deal contains $22.385 million guaranteed, including a first-year roster bonus of $2.605 million. Another $12 million is available through incentives. Long voided year six by playing in 35% of the defensive snaps as a rookie. He is eligible for a onetime $4.01 million "likely to be earned" escalator based on performance. 2011: $1.835 million, 2012: $2.56 million, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Chris Massey    Running Back    3/18/2010: Signed a four-year, $4.4 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $250,000. 2011: $875,000 (+ $500,000 roster bonus), 2012: $900,000, 2013: $1.1 million, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Greg Mathews    Wide Receiver    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Ryan McKee    Tackle    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Drew Miller    Tackle    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Brit Miller    Running Back    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent
    
    Clint Mower    Center    1/21/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Jerome Murphy    Defensive Back    6/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $2.728 million contract. The deal included a $937,739 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Jonathan Nelson    Defensive Back    
    
    David Nixon    Linebacker    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent
    
    Fendi Onobun    Tight End    7/20/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.919 million contract. The deal included a $129,000 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Austin Pettis    Wide Receiver    
    
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    Robert Quinn    Defensive Lineman    
    
    Fred Robbins    Defensive Lineman    3/8/2010: Signed a three-year, $11.25 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $3.395 million. Another $725,000 is available through incentives. 2011: $3.25 million, 2012: $3.75 million, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Laurent Robinson    Wide Receiver    2011: Free Agent
    
    Clifton Ryan    Defensive Lineman    2011: Free Agent
    
    Jimmy Saddler-McQueen    Defensive Lineman    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Rodger Saffold    Tackle    7/28/2010: Signed a four-year, $6.3 million contract. The deal contains $3.9 million guaranteed. Another $250,000 is available through "unlikely to be earned" incentives based on Pro Bowl berths and the 2010 Offensive ROY award. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Greg Salas    Wide Receiver    
    
    Dorell Scott    Defensive Lineman    7/26/2009: Signed a four-year, $2.270 million contract. The deal included a $520,000 signing bonus. 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent
    
    George Selvie    Defensive Lineman    6/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.846 million contract. The deal included a $55,955 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Maurice Simpkins    Linebacker    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.
    
    Eugene Sims    Defensive Lineman    6/28/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.893 million contract. The deal included a $103,301 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent
    
    Jason Smith    Tackle    7/30/2009: Signed a six-year, $61.775 million contract. The deal contains $33 million guaranteed, including a second-year option bonus of $16.3 million and all of Smith's first three base salaries. 2011: $8.5 million, 2012: $10 million, 2013: $12 million, 2014: $3.325 million (Voidable Year), 2015: Free Agent
    
    Darian Stewart    Defensive Back    2011: $405,000, 2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent
    
    Keith Toston    Running Back    2011: $405,000, 2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent
    
    David Vobora    Linebacker    2011: Restricted Free Agent (Low Tender)
    
    Chauncey Washington    Running Back    1/4/2011: Signed a two-year, $1.205 million contract. 2011: $555,000, 2012: $650,000, 2013: Free Agent
    
    Joe West    Wide Receiver    1/5/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

    As I can tell, the highest five salaries of Rams players in 2011 are...

    RT Jason Smith: $8.5 million
    RB Steven Jackson: $7.2 million
    RG Jacob Bell: $6 million
    CB Ron Bartell: $5.2 million
    C Jason Brown: $4 million
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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    I could see Bell going as I don't think he's an elite, 6 million dollar guard.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    I could see Bell going as well. And I hope he does. He is replaceable for a much cheaper salary.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by DHawkins View Post
    I could see Bell going as well. And I hope he does. He is replaceable for a much cheaper salary.
    It's easy to say that, but much harder to find that guy at a cheaper salary.

    Cutting Bell creates a hole where the Rams don't need one, especially if they feel the way many fans do and think they need to upgrade their other guard spot as well. Do they really want to spend this brief free agency period looking for TWO new starting linemen?

    Unless the Rams are really strapped for cap space, which I don't think is the case, I don't see them cutting Bell. In fact, I'm not convinced they really make many "cap saving" cuts this year. There really isn't a contract on that list, IMO, that screams cap casualty.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    I can't see any surprise cuts like Baltimore is doing coming from the RAMs. They don't have the salary issues that the Ravens do. The RAMs did that two years ago.
    Semper Fi!

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    Devaney and Demoff have done well. Whether they anticipated this pandemonium happening or not, they've really structured the team the right way. It looks like we won't have to cut any impact players, and have room to operate with our cap space.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    I think we should rework Bell's contract. He clearly shouldn't be paid like he currently is but cannot be released because we are already shopping for a guard.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    Does Bradford's signing bonus count against the cap?

    If not and you're telling me Sam only counts $405,000 against the cap... then wow I love Kevin Demoff even more.

    And I agree, Bell has certainly not played up to that contract.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Mob 71 View Post
    Does Bradford's signing bonus count against the cap?

    If not and you're telling me Sam only counts $405,000 against the cap... then wow I love Kevin Demoff even more.

    And I agree, Bell has certainly not played up to that contract.
    I thought the signing bonus would count against it

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    I wonder if Bell gets more of a thrashing around here than he deserves. I've read a few articles that named him as our best offensive lineman last season.

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    Re: Who will we cut tomorrow?

    Did I misread the breakdown of key dates or will cuts not happen until Thurs afternoon?

    Pretty cool, methinks, because you can negotiate with FAs starting tomorrow -can't sign until Fri eve- so you can have a good idea of who ( whom?) you could get before making any cuts. I think teams will be conservative but a frenzy of speed-dating, NFL style, is possible,I guess.

    In that scenario, there's only a handful of guys who are locks to stay, obviously.Dunno that money will be the deciding factor . If they pick up a stud guard, I think they'll put Goldie on the bench, keep Bell who played pretty well most of the time last year,imo, & let Greco get his act together elsewhere. Don't really see any starters under contract getting the chop except maybe Butler, if you can even call him a starter anymore. I'd feel better with another smart vet in the backfield ( Sharper?) even if it's a training wheels kind of deal.Ditto @ LB where I think they'd keep Diggs even if they sign another OLB.

    Edit ps : my cross-positional wild card: Gilyard will be cut if they sign Sproles. The returner job, in other words. DS is a better proven commodity & the double value would justify the relatively big contract for a back-up/secondary RB it might take to get him, imo. You're putting the ball in a guy's hands 12-15 times or more a game with both jobs & with Sproles, he's a threat to score every time.Not Mardy-bashing but he's got a lot to prove to top that for me, never mind justifying the same base salary as Bradford.
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