Who will we cut tomorrow?

[peramoure]

So, just got done reading that Derrick Mason, Willis McGahee, Kelly Gregg, and Todd Heap.. gone. All will be cut tomorrow to save cash, sign young talent, and get under the cap.

With that being said, we have a lot of potential cuts ourselves tomorrow.

To get this info, google USA TODAY RAMS SALARIES. Since we can't post links, n all.

These numbers are old, but I can't find new ones. Anyone find the new salaries for this year?

Who is going to get the ax?

I could see guys like James Butler gone for sure. Hell, our kicker is going to count around 3 million to the cap (3 million).




PLAYER BASE SALARY SIGN BONUS ALL BONUSES CAP VALUE SALARY POSITION
Long, Chris $ 385,000 $ 6,294,780 $ 16,592,280 Defensive End
Brown, Jason $ 4,000,000 $ 11,000,000 $ 6,207,150 $ 15,007,150 Outside Linebacker
Bulger, Marc $ 6,500,000 $ 8,507,280 $ 6,507,280 Quarterback
Atogwe, Oshiomogho $ 6,342,021 $ 6,349,171 $ 6,349,171 Safety
Jackson, Steven $ 5,500,000 $ 7,406,446 $ 5,507,280 Running Back
Bell, Jacob $ 4,000,000 $ 5,173,426 $ 4,006,760 Outside Linebacker
McMichael, Randy $ 3,600,000 $ 4,607,280 $ 3,607,280 Tight End
Bartell, Ronald $ 3,450,000 $ 4,916,530 $ 3,454,030 Cornerback
Smith, Jason $ 310,000 $ 2,930,000 $ 2,930,000 Outside Linebacker
Little, Leonard $ 845,000 $ 6,207,150 $ 2,506,760 Defensive End
Barron, Alex $ 2,482,500 $ 3,716,760 $ 2,489,260 Outside Linebacker
Butler, James $ 1,925,000 $ 2,200,900 $ 1,932,150 Safety
Brown, Josh $ 1,800,000 $ 2,606,760 $ 1,806,760 Punter/Kicker
Thomas, Chris $ 1,800,000 $ 2,606,760 $ 1,806,760 Punter/Kicker
Boller, Kyle $ 1,250,000 $ 1,505,200 $ 1,505,200 Quarterback
Adeyanju, Victor $ 1,010,000 $ 1,017,150 $ 1,017,150 Defensive End
Incognito, Richie $ 1,010,000 $ 1,017,150 $ 1,017,150 Outside Linebacker
Hall, James $ 800,000 $ 1,357,280 $ 1,007,280 Defensive End
Jones, Donnie $ 1,007,280 $ 1,242,280 $ 1,007,280 Punter/Kicker
Karney, Mike $ 700,000 $ 1,023,816 $ 932,150 Running Back
Laurinaitis, James $ 310,000 $ 850,000 $ 850,000 Linebacker
Lenon, Paris $ 745,000 $ 50,000 $ 432,941 $ 795,000 Linebacker
Massey, Chris $ 745,000 $ 460,000 $ 745,000 Running Back
Carriker, Adam $ 720,000 $ 2,107,280 $ 727,280 Defensive Tackle
Smith, Anthony $ 535,000 $ 535,000 $ 710,000 Safety
Goldberg, Adam $ 620,000 $ 676,760 $ 626,760 Outside Linebacker
Bajema, Billy $ 620,000 $ 659,573 $ 626,240 Tight End
Carter, Tim $ 620,000 $ 324,705 $ 620,000 Wide Receiver
Gado, Samkon $ 535,000 $ 542,280 $ 542,280 Running Back
Ramsey, LaJuan $ 535,000 $ 535,000 $ 540,980 Defensive Tackle
Martin, Ruvell $ 535,000 $ 503,529 $ 535,000 Wide Receiver
Wroten, Claude $ 530,000 $ 719,411 $ 530,000 Defensive Tackle
Gibson, Gary $ 460,000 $ 502,188 $ 510,000 Defensive Tackle
Foster, Brooks $ 310,000 $ 175,571 $ 353,892 $ 485,571 Wide Receiver
Bassey, Eric $ 460,000 $ 252,280 $ 467,280 Cornerback
Darby, Kenneth $ 460,000 $ 467,280 $ 467,280 Running Back
Fells, Daniel $ 460,000 $ 467,280 $ 467,280 Tight End
Ryan, Clifton $ 460,000 $ 510,280 $ 467,280 Defensive Tackle
Setterstrom, Mark $ 460,000 $ 467,150 $ 467,150 Outside Linebacker
Robinson, Laurent $ 460,000 $ 378,520 $ 464,550 Wide Receiver
Avery, Donnie $ 456,250 $ 919,530 $ 463,530 Wide Receiver
Dahl, Craig $ 385,000 $ 392,280 $ 412,280 Safety
Burton, Keenan $ 385,000 $ 495,280 $ 392,280 Wide Receiver
Butler, Quincy $ 385,000 $ 392,280 $ 392,280 Cornerback
Chamberlain, Chris $ 385,000 $ 404,313 $ 392,280 Cornerback
Grant, Larry $ 385,000 $ 392,280 $ 392,280 Linebacker
Greco, John $ 385,000 $ 606,913 $ 392,280 Outside Linebacker
Vobora, David $ 385,000 $ 392,280 $ 392,280 Linebacker
Douzable, Leger $ 385,000 $ 317,059 $ 385,000 Defensive Tackle
Null, Keith $ 310,000 $ 356,625 $ 337,500 Quarterback
Ah You, C.J. $ 310,000 $ 317,280 $ 317,280 Defensive End
King, Justin $ 310,000 $ 442,613 $ 317,280 Cornerback
Roach, David $ 310,000 $ 317,280 $ 317,280 Safety
Allen, Roger $ 310,000 $ 316,666 $ 310,000 Outside Linebacker
Amendola, Danny $ 310,000 $ 273,529 $ 310,000 Wide Receiver
Asiodu, K.C. $ 310,000 $ 200,588 $ 310,000 Linebacker
Douglas, Dominic $ 310,000 $ 313,250 $ 310,000 Linebacker
Fletcher, Bradley $ 310,000 $ 533,074 $ 310,000 Cornerback
Scott, Dorell $ 310,000 $ 439,929 $ 310,000 Defensive Tackle
Trautwein, Phil $ 310,000 $ 200,588 $ 310,000 Outside Linebacker

[DHawkins]

Laurent Robinson
And your list is old.

[peramoure]

Yea, I said my list was old. And Laurent Robinson is a FA.

[C-Mob 71]

So many numbers lol, but from that list, I would probably cut Marc Bulger, Brooks Foster, Alex Barron, and Adam Carriker just to name a few

In all seriousness, it could very well be the end of the Mardy Gilyard experiment. Wouldn't be surprised to see Brandon Gibson get the axe as well.

Though I believe we are currently under the cap, and can carry 90 players, so I wouldn't be surprised if we don't cut anyone for awhile.

[Nick]

It's not necessarily pretty, but this is the Contract page for the Rams on Rotoworld's website. Feel free to go there to see it in a better format, but this gives us a more updated list of who is under contract and for how much. I believe it also lists unsigned draft picks and impending free agents.

C.J. Ah You    Defensive Lineman    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent

Danario Alexander    Wide Receiver    10/11/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.825 million contract. The deal included a $35,000 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Danny Amendola    Wide Receiver    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent

Donnie Avery    Wide Receiver    2011: $638,750, 2012: Free Agent

Billy Bajema    Tight End    2011: $985,000, 2012: Free Agent

Mikail Baker    Defensive Back    

Ronald Bartell    Defensive Back    3/2/2009: Signed a four-year, $25 million contract. The deal contains $13.6 million guaranteed, including a $5 million signing bonus and Bartell's base salaries in years one and two. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2011: $5.2 million, 2012: $6.2 million, 2013: Free Agent

Jacob Bell    Guard    3/3/2008: Signed a six-year, $36 million contract. The deal contains $13 million guaranteed, including a $7 million signing bonus and his first two base salaries. 2011-2013: $6 million, 2014: Free Agent

Sam Bradford    Quarterback    7/30/2010: Signed a six-year, $78 million contract. The deal contains $50 million guaranteed, including all six years' base salaries and a $2.88 million first-year roster bonus. Another $8 million is available through incentives based on playoff, Super Bowl, and Pro Bowl appearances. 2011: $405,000 (+ $17.974 million "signing" bonus), 2012: $1.205 million, 2013: $2.005 million, 2014: $2.805 million, 2015: $3.605 million, 2016: Free Agent

Josh Brown    Place Kicker    2/29/2008: Signed a five-year, $14.2 million contract. The deal included a $4 million signing bonus. 2011: 2.6 million, 2012: $2.7 million, 2013: Free Agent

Jason Brown    Center    2/28/2009: Signed a five-year, $37.5 million contract. The deal contains $20 million guaranteed, including an $11 million signing bonus and the base salaries in years one and two. Brown's contract will void after the 2012 season if he reaches incentives based on wins and performance. The Rams can also "buy back" the year by adding $2.3 million to Brown's 2013 base salary. 2011: $4 million, 2012: $5 million, 2013: $6.2 million, 2014: Free Agent

James Butler    Defensive Back    3/9/2009: Signed a four-year, $14 million contract. Another $3 million is available through incentives. 2011: $3 million, 2012: $3.5 million, 2013: Free Agent

Chris Chamberlain    Linebacker    2011: Restricted Free Agent (Low Tender)

Mark Clayton    Wide Receiver    2011: Free Agent

Jermelle Cudjo    Defensive Lineman    2011: $405,000, 2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent

Dominique Curry    Wide Receiver    2011: $405,000, 2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent

Craig Dahl    Defensive Back    3/5/2010: Signed a three-year, $3.6 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $755,000. 2011: $1.1 million, 2012: $1.2 million (Voidable Year), 2013: Free Agent

Kenneth Darby    Running Back    2011: Free Agent

Na'il Diggs    Linebacker    2011: $1.25 million, 2012: Free Agent

A.J. Feeley    Quarterback    2011: $2.25 million, 2012: Free Agent

Daniel Fells    Tight End    2011: Free Agent

Bradley Fletcher    Defensive Back    7/10/2009: Signed a four-year, $2.642 million contract. The deal included an $892,298 signing bonus. 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent

Renardo Foster    Tackle    2011: Restricted Free Agent (Low Tender)

Hank Fraley    Center    3/14/2010: Signed a three-year, $3.055 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $200,000. 2011-2012: $1 million, 2013: Free Agent

Brandon Gibson    Wide Receiver    6/6/2009: Signed a four-year, $1.850 million contract. The deal included a $100,000 signing bonus. 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent

Gary Gibson    Defensive Lineman    2011: Free Agent

Mardy Gilyard    Wide Receiver    6/28/2010: Signed a four-year, $2.342 million contract. The deal included a $552,255 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Adam Goldberg    Tackle    2011: Free Agent

Larry Grant    Linebacker    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent

John Greco    Tackle    2011: Restricted Free Agent (Low Tender)

James Hall    Defensive Lineman    3/22/2010: Signed a three-year, $8.25 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $1.895 million. 2011-2012: $2.75 million, 2013: Free Agent

Andrew Hawkins    Wide Receiver    1/12/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Jermale Hines    Defensive Back    

Michael Hoomanawanui    Tight End    6/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $2.0055 million contract. The deal included a $215,512 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Josh Hull    Linebacker    6/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.8255 million contract. The deal included a $35,553 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Steven Jackson    Running Back    8/21/2008: Signed a six-year, $44.805 million contract. The deal contains $20.5 million guaranteed, including an $11.395 million signing bonus. Another $4.495 million is available through incentives. He must average 1,200 yards rushing and 400 yards receiving over the first four years to void the final two seasons on his contract. 2011: $7.2 million, 2012-2013: $7 million (Voidable Years), 2014: Free Agent

Marquis Johnson    Defensive Back    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Donnie Jones    Punter    2011: $1.1 million, 2012: Free Agent

Bryan Kehl    Linebacker    2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent

Lance Kendricks    Tight End    

Justin King    Defensive Back    3/3/2011: Signed an undisclosed contract.

James Laurinaitis    Linebacker    7/29/2009: Signed a four-year, $5.09 million contract. The deal contains $3.29 million guaranteed. 2011: $500,000, 2012: $620,000, 2013: Free Agent

Thaddeus Lewis    Quarterback    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Michael Lewis    Defensive Back    2011: Free Agent

Chris Long    Defensive Lineman    7/20/2008: Signed a five-year, $48 million contract. The deal contains $22.385 million guaranteed, including a first-year roster bonus of $2.605 million. Another $12 million is available through incentives. Long voided year six by playing in 35% of the defensive snaps as a rookie. He is eligible for a onetime $4.01 million "likely to be earned" escalator based on performance. 2011: $1.835 million, 2012: $2.56 million, 2013: Free Agent

Chris Massey    Running Back    3/18/2010: Signed a four-year, $4.4 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $250,000. 2011: $875,000 (+ $500,000 roster bonus), 2012: $900,000, 2013: $1.1 million, 2014: Free Agent

Greg Mathews    Wide Receiver    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Ryan McKee    Tackle    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Drew Miller    Tackle    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Brit Miller    Running Back    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent

Clint Mower    Center    1/21/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Jerome Murphy    Defensive Back    6/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $2.728 million contract. The deal included a $937,739 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Jonathan Nelson    Defensive Back    

David Nixon    Linebacker    2011: $480,000, 2012: Restricted Free Agent

Fendi Onobun    Tight End    7/20/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.919 million contract. The deal included a $129,000 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Austin Pettis    Wide Receiver    

Rams QB    Quarterback    

Robert Quinn    Defensive Lineman    

Fred Robbins    Defensive Lineman    3/8/2010: Signed a three-year, $11.25 million contract. The deal included an initial roster bonus of $3.395 million. Another $725,000 is available through incentives. 2011: $3.25 million, 2012: $3.75 million, 2013: Free Agent

Laurent Robinson    Wide Receiver    2011: Free Agent

Clifton Ryan    Defensive Lineman    2011: Free Agent

Jimmy Saddler-McQueen    Defensive Lineman    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Rodger Saffold    Tackle    7/28/2010: Signed a four-year, $6.3 million contract. The deal contains $3.9 million guaranteed. Another $250,000 is available through "unlikely to be earned" incentives based on Pro Bowl berths and the 2010 Offensive ROY award. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Greg Salas    Wide Receiver    

Dorell Scott    Defensive Lineman    7/26/2009: Signed a four-year, $2.270 million contract. The deal included a $520,000 signing bonus. 2011: $480,000, 2012: $565,000, 2013: Free Agent

George Selvie    Defensive Lineman    6/26/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.846 million contract. The deal included a $55,955 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Maurice Simpkins    Linebacker    1/4/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

Eugene Sims    Defensive Lineman    6/28/2010: Signed a four-year, $1.893 million contract. The deal included a $103,301 signing bonus. 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: $575,000, 2014: Free Agent

Jason Smith    Tackle    7/30/2009: Signed a six-year, $61.775 million contract. The deal contains $33 million guaranteed, including a second-year option bonus of $16.3 million and all of Smith's first three base salaries. 2011: $8.5 million, 2012: $10 million, 2013: $12 million, 2014: $3.325 million (Voidable Year), 2015: Free Agent

Darian Stewart    Defensive Back    2011: $405,000, 2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent

Keith Toston    Running Back    2011: $405,000, 2012: Exclusive Rights Free Agent

David Vobora    Linebacker    2011: Restricted Free Agent (Low Tender)

Chauncey Washington    Running Back    1/4/2011: Signed a two-year, $1.205 million contract. 2011: $555,000, 2012: $650,000, 2013: Free Agent

Joe West    Wide Receiver    1/5/2011: Signed a reserve/future contract.

As I can tell, the highest five salaries of Rams players in 2011 are...

RT Jason Smith: $8.5 million
RB Steven Jackson: $7.2 million
RG Jacob Bell: $6 million
CB Ron Bartell: $5.2 million
C Jason Brown: $4 million

[peramoure]

I could see Bell going as I don't think he's an elite, 6 million dollar guard.

[DHawkins]

I could see Bell going as well. And I hope he does. He is replaceable for a much cheaper salary.

[Nick]

I could see Bell going as well. And I hope he does. He is replaceable for a much cheaper salary.

It's easy to say that, but much harder to find that guy at a cheaper salary.

Cutting Bell creates a hole where the Rams don't need one, especially if they feel the way many fans do and think they need to upgrade their other guard spot as well. Do they really want to spend this brief free agency period looking for TWO new starting linemen?

Unless the Rams are really strapped for cap space, which I don't think is the case, I don't see them cutting Bell. In fact, I'm not convinced they really make many "cap saving" cuts this year. There really isn't a contract on that list, IMO, that screams cap casualty.

[Richbert88]

I can't see any surprise cuts like Baltimore is doing coming from the RAMs. They don't have the salary issues that the Ravens do. The RAMs did that two years ago.

[Ramendola16]

Devaney and Demoff have done well. Whether they anticipated this pandemonium happening or not, they've really structured the team the right way. It looks like we won't have to cut any impact players, and have room to operate with our cap space.

[sosa39rams]

I think we should rework Bell's contract. He clearly shouldn't be paid like he currently is but cannot be released because we are already shopping for a guard.

[C-Mob 71]

Does Bradford's signing bonus count against the cap?

If not and you're telling me Sam only counts $405,000 against the cap... then wow I love Kevin Demoff even more.

And I agree, Bell has certainly not played up to that contract.

[tomahawk247]

Does Bradford's signing bonus count against the cap?

If not and you're telling me Sam only counts $405,000 against the cap... then wow I love Kevin Demoff even more.

And I agree, Bell has certainly not played up to that contract.

I thought the signing bonus would count against it

[cfh128]

I wonder if Bell gets more of a thrashing around here than he deserves. I've read a few articles that named him as our best offensive lineman last season.

[Azul e Oro]

Did I misread the breakdown of key dates or will cuts not happen until Thurs afternoon?

Pretty cool, methinks, because you can negotiate with FAs starting tomorrow -can't sign until Fri eve- so you can have a good idea of who ( whom?) you could get before making any cuts. I think teams will be conservative but a frenzy of speed-dating, NFL style, is possible,I guess.

In that scenario, there's only a handful of guys who are locks to stay, obviously.Dunno that money will be the deciding factor . If they pick up a stud guard, I think they'll put Goldie on the bench, keep Bell who played pretty well most of the time last year,imo, & let Greco get his act together elsewhere. Don't really see any starters under contract getting the chop except maybe Butler, if you can even call him a starter anymore. I'd feel better with another smart vet in the backfield ( Sharper?) even if it's a training wheels kind of deal.Ditto @ LB where I think they'd keep Diggs even if they sign another OLB.

Edit ps : my cross-positional wild card: Gilyard will be cut if they sign Sproles. The returner job, in other words. DS is a better proven commodity & the double value would justify the relatively big contract for a back-up/secondary RB it might take to get him, imo. You're putting the ball in a guy's hands 12-15 times or more a game with both jobs & with Sproles, he's a threat to score every time.Not Mardy-bashing but he's got a lot to prove to top that for me, never mind justifying the same base salary as Bradford.