Why can't we run?

*Chiledog* · #1 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

What is the problem with our rushing game. The Rams have played 3 quarters against the Giants, and we have a whopping 31 yards rushing. And 9 of those yards were on a Bulger scramble! I can't understand it. The Giants are ranked 24th in the league in rushing defense, they are expecting us to pass the ball, and 31 yards is the best we can do in 3 quarters of play? I can't believe that Jackson is this bad, so what's the problem?
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**Nick** · #2 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

I would wager it has to do with a number of factors - the run blocking, the kind of runs we're attempting, some of Jackson's decisions.

*talkstoangels61* · #3 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

Because MM is the coach and really honestly he is all about the pass as we all know!.........He needs to get the younger guards in the lineup and start rebuilding now instead of later! Timmerman and Company IMPO have lost it! WE need the new kids to step up now instead of later! .................You can only get better with playing time!.......................Jackson had a god awful day today!...........................Bulger had no pass rush IMPO that should have warranted all of his interceptions also!............We as a team looked awful at times! and why would you try a play like that at the goal line?...........................?????????????????????

*rebel13* · #4 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by NickSeiler

I would wager it has to do with a number of factors - the run blocking, the kind of runs we're attempting, some of Jackson's decisions.

And don't forget the "offensive genius" that we have running the show, Wow what a performance!

**Nick** · #5 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by talkstoangels61

Because MM is the coach and really honestly he is all about the pass as we all know!

I don't think this is the case. When he called running plays, two to start the game mind you, they resulted in negative yards. It's hard to run the football when (1) you try and your players fail miserably at gaining ground and (2) your defense can't stop the opposition from increasing the margin on the scoreboard.

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Originally Posted by talkstoangels61

Bulger had no pass rush IMPO that should have warranted all of his interceptions also!

There was no pass rush because the Giants didn't fear the run and dropped their men into coverage. Combine that with a tiring arm, and the interceptions become very understandable. At the half, Bulger had already thrown 30 times. That's more than some QBs in this league see in a whole game. The Rams have to find a way to move the ball and stay in games without calling on Marc to throw this much.

#6 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

Maybe we should open the competition for the starting job to both Faulk and Jackson. Faulk has looked good in his limited use this year. Jackson is still the future but at this point I am not sure he has passed Marshal as the better RB. Faulk is smart as can be out there and does an excellent job blocking for Bulger when he’s passing.

*talkstoangels61* · #7 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

Yeah i can hear it now! "Marc Bulger had a great day! Look at the stats! It wasn't his fault! We will work on things this week to rectify them! ETC.........." Getting tired of all the excuses from MM.... With the teams he's had he should had them in more Post Season games and Championships But,and i do mean this! He as a coach should have his team better prepared for these games than he has!!!!!!.......This is the NFL

*talkstoangels61* · #8 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by NickSeiler

I don't think this is the case. When he called running plays, two to start the game mind you, they resulted in negative yards. It's hard to run the football when (1) you try and your players fail miserably at gaining ground and (2) your defense can't stop the opposition from increasing the margin on the scoreboard.

Nic I'm glad you had something to say about todays game! A few years ago we we played this team the same thing happened to KW and the Rams at Giant stadium yet the Defenses lineman pounded Mr. warner all day long! Yet didn't we still pass alot? KW never had as much time to throw as did Bulger today! yet we still threw,threw,threw!...........and we lost ,lost,lost!!!! Detroit when we needed it! same thing threw and lost! But, today MB had happy feet yet were sacked what once? Line play wasn't real good but, far from bad! MM play calling and stupid decisions are the reason we lost along with his game plan and ineptness of getting this team motivated!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!! With the protection MB had today any QB could have done the same thing! Once a opposing teams coach gets MM off his game plan he becomes rattled! If the Cards, and Titans were just a little better and had things go just a little different ! We'd be 0-4 wouldn't we! MM needs to put the younger kids in there and get them ready for the future! IMPO he doesn't take the players out of the game that should be and takes the players out that should be playing! He does not in no way get this team totally prepared week to week! He's tooooooooooooo arrogant!!!

There was no pass rush because the Giants didn't fear the run and dropped their men into coverage. Combine that with a tiring arm, and the interceptions become very understandable. At the half, Bulger had already thrown 30 times. That's more than some QBs in this league see in a whole game. The Rams have to find a way to move the ball and stay in games without calling on Marc to throw this much.

No way here! You cant say that MB should be excused for passing 60 + times. He threw all the time with KW didn't he? MB had all the time in the world today and still threw how many interceptions?..........Some people need to put the blame were it goes when it needs to be put there instead of always defending them! Hey he gets paid alot of $$$$ for throwing the ball so he'd better be more efficient when he decides to let the ball go!........IMPO he really hasn't thrown the ball that well this year as a whole! If not for some help from the receivers he wouldn't have near the pass completion% that he has!..........I like MB but, dang guys,when do you think that you might start putting the blame on those that are at fault here?................Coach better wake up is all i have to say!

*cowboyhater* · #9 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

There's something else going on here. In 1999 Faulk racked up plenty of rushing yards with Martz calling thhe plays. I remember after we drafted Trung Canidate, even HE had a couple of big rushing games (Jets and Dolphins). So Martz can call a running game when he wants to.

I think it has to come down to the personnel. The middle of our o-line may not be opening holes. Maybe we are telegraphing the running plays. But while I don't like Martz as a head coach, I think he doesn't run because we cannot run.

*talkstoangels61* · #10 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by STLRAMSFAN

Maybe we should open the competition for the starting job to both Faulk and Jackson. Faulk has looked good in his limited use this year. Jackson is still the future but at this point I am not sure he has passed Marshal as the better RB. Faulk is smart as can be out there and does an excellent job blocking for Bulger when he’s passing.

No what he needs to do is to get both of these guys more touches in the game! Big play seems to go down to easy any more when barely touched! and drops the **** ball and laughs about it! Makes me sick when any one does it and he does it quite often!......TH needs to get tougher as do most of the team!

*talkstoangels61* · #11 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

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I think it has to come down to the personnel. The middle of our o-line may not be opening holes. Maybe we are telegraphing the running plays. But while I don't like Martz as a head coach, I think he doesn't run because we cannot run.[/QUOTE]

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! needs to prepare more and call a better game !

**Nick** · #12 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

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Originally Posted by talkstoangels61

Some people need to put the blame were it goes when it needs to be put there instead of always defending them!

Talks, please show me where in this section...

"There was no pass rush because the Giants didn't fear the run and dropped their men into coverage. Combine that with a tiring arm, and the interceptions become very understandable. At the half, Bulger had already thrown 30 times. That's more than some QBs in this league see in a whole game. The Rams have to find a way to move the ball and stay in games without calling on Marc to throw this much."

...I said Marc Bulger takes no blame for his interceptions. Please, point it out.

In fact, I refer you to the first line that I wrote for the fourth quarter game notes I was taking, which says, "Bad decision by Bulger, trying to force a pass into that zone coverage, and he got intercepted for it."

So please, don't tell me that I'm not faulting Bulger when he makes mistakes. How about we talk about the point I was trying to make instead? There's a thought.

The Giants dropped eight men into coverage because we weren't running the ball - when we did, we didn't gain much, and we were so far behind that running made little sense. When you have eight guys in coverage and maybe four or five targets, it's going to be hard to find open men. Bulger's first interception came on something like this 46th pass attempt.

My point, Talks, is this - we have to find ways to stay in games without having to rely on Marc passing the ball so much. That means a defense that doesn't give up 27 points in the first half so that we're playing from behind right off the bat, and a running game that will actually gain consistent yards on the ground when called upon.

*talkstoangels61* · #13 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

Nic ............good points but, wasnt talking totally at you on the matter from past and present post was my intent! but, still with the protection he had he and i do agree should have never thrown the balls into coverage as he did! and i hate to bring it up but, KW always seemed to get the blame!......MM always backs MB even if wrong!....................His tiring arm was still over throwing and under throwing most of the day!..............He had a 5 recievers set when throwing the Int's didnt he? This including the back out of the backfield! Their had to be a checkdown 1 on 1 somewhere! The last int was overthrown badly!......poor decision on his part and maybe just a little bit of happy feet also! U R right about the balance of the plays called though! and that goes to ole Martzie doesnt it?..............................

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*talkstoangels61* · #15 (**permalink**) -02-10-2005

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My point, Talks, is this - we have to find ways to stay in games without having to rely on Marc passing the ball so much. That means a defense that doesn't give up 27 points in the first half so that we're playing from behind right off the bat, and a running game that will actually gain consistent yards on the ground when called upon.[/QUOTE]

The offense had alot to do with the 27 points that was scored! Can't blame the defense for everything here today!...........i dont mean everything either! If the offense does its job then most likely the defense does not give up anyway near 27 IMPO!