All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:32 PM.
Home Contact us FAQ

ClanRam
2008 Schedule
Regular Season
9/7 Eagles L 3 - 38
9/14 Giants L 13-41
9/21 Seahawks L 13-37
9/28 Bills L 14-31
10/5
BYE
 
10/12 Redskins W 19-17
10/19 Cowboys W 34-14
10/26 Patriots L 16-23
11/10 Cardinals L 13-34
11/10 Jets L 3-47
11/16 Whiners L 16-35
11/23 Bears L 3-27
11/30 Dolphins L 12-16
12/7 Cardinals - 3:15pm
12/14 Seahawks - Noon
12/21 Whiners - Noon
12/28 Falcons - Noon
All times Central
Score in italics: Overtime

Go Back   The ClanRam Forums > THE 2008 SEASON > RAM TALK

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
AvengerRam's Avatar
AvengerRam
Status: Online
Mild Mannered Mod
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Longwood, Florida
Age: 40
Posts: 9,534
Rep Power: 45
AvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond reputeAvengerRam has a reputation beyond repute
Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

All of you who have ripped Orlando Pace and screamed for him to be traded...

Will you feel a bit silly when he signs a long term deal this week?

And will you admit it?

Just wondering.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
ZigZagRam's Avatar
ZigZagRam
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: St. Louis
Age: 23
Posts: 1,766
Rep Power: 6
ZigZagRam - will become famous soon enough
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

I claimed he should be traded if he doesn't sign a long-term deal. I still stand by that.

But if he signs a long-term deal I will gladly add an Orlando Pace 8x10 to my Rams room. I've been waiting to see if he'd be a Ram past 2004.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
AugustaRamFan's Avatar
AugustaRamFan
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Augusta, GA
Age: 48
Posts: 495
Rep Power: 0
AugustaRamFan - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

It is not a matter of silliness.

Pace is an all-Pro - Hall of Famer...no doubt.

BUT, can the Rams afford him? NE does it w/o $8MM O-lineman, so it can be done.

I just think it's time go a different direction. I also am somewhat concerned about OPs performance in the last game in Atlanta. OP nearly got Marc declared a federal disaster area.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
Nick's Avatar
Nick
Status: Online
Superbowl MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Morgantown, WV
Age: 26
Posts: 11,795
Rep Power: 42
Nick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond reputeNick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AugustaRamFan
BUT, can the Rams afford him? NE does it w/o $8MM O-lineman, so it can be done.
The Patriots run our exact offensive scheme without an expensive left tackle? That's news to me.

Also, New England's starting left tackle, Matt Light, accepted a six-year contract extension this fall worth $27 million, including a $9 million signing bonus. That's certainly not in the Pace category, but Light isn't as talented as Pace, and the money he accepted certainly isn't chump change.

Just something to keep in mind.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
UtterBlitz's Avatar
UtterBlitz
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,339
Rep Power: 21
UtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud of
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

I won't feel silly either way. He has played hard to get for years now and I lose interest in players that do not want to be on the team.

I would prefer to see him traded at this point. He is very high priced and I have not been all that impressed with his performance.
__________________
"Do Your Best and Forget the Rest" Tony Horton
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
ZigZagRam's Avatar
ZigZagRam
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: St. Louis
Age: 23
Posts: 1,766
Rep Power: 6
ZigZagRam - will become famous soon enough
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

Well if he signs a long-term deal with the Rams that tells me he does want to be part of the team. If we can lock him up for 5 or 6 years at the LT spot, that's one position we won't have to worry about for a long time.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
AugustaRamFan's Avatar
AugustaRamFan
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Augusta, GA
Age: 48
Posts: 495
Rep Power: 0
AugustaRamFan - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

Nick: You make my point. I would take a solid taclke like NE for say $4-5MM and still have another $3-4MM for Free Agency.

Aslo, the NE offense is dependent on pass protection, there shemes see different - I'll give you that.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
UtterBlitz's Avatar
UtterBlitz
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,339
Rep Power: 21
UtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud ofUtterBlitz has much to be proud of
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZigZagRam
Well if he signs a long-term deal with the Rams that tells me he does want to be part of the team. If we can lock him up for 5 or 6 years at the LT spot, that's one position we won't have to worry about for a long time.
You are right ZigZag, a long term deal would show some commitment from Pace, and that would be nice, but it is no guarantee that he would remain healthy and avoid injuries. Injuries have a way of changing the future and you don't need to look very far to see Turley out of the game, not quite sitting on the bench, but not playing for sure.

Can someone tell me, what does a normal contract look like for the O line guys? Do they ususally sign long term contacts? How long does an O line guy last in the league? What is the average age? Is Pace in his prime now?

Sometimes it is just easier and quicker to ask you guys, when I don't know football stats and history and contract information. My football knowledge is limited and you guys know a lot about football.
__________________
"Do Your Best and Forget the Rest" Tony Horton
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
fearlessone's Avatar
fearlessone
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: AFTERMATH
Posts: 406
Rep Power: 5
fearlessone - will become famous soon enough
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

IMHO we need to keep him and do I have to remind anyone that Kyle Turley played LT for the pathetic 'aints (played decent for the most part) when Willie Roaf got run off by the a$$hole$ in that org. and he has been a PB'er every season too after hooking up with Vermeil. Roaf is probably 6 to 7 years older than Pace and is a perennial PB participant so an investment into Pace could be worth it. Ask Trent Green, Priest Holmes and Tony Gonzalez if they dig Roaf's presence on their O-line!!!!

I would hate to see Pace star somewhere else in our conference and see Turley in a RAMS uni @ LT

Give him the money and move on! We have a defense to build and some other areas on the O-line to enhance!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
rampower's Avatar
rampower
Status: Online
Veteran Ram
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: cumbria, UK
Age: 35
Posts: 558
Rep Power: 12
rampower is just really nicerampower is just really nicerampower is just really nicerampower is just really nicerampower is just really nice
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

Why should one feel silly for offering up their opinion?

Based upon the information we have now and from the past, it is not surprising that many feel upset with pace, dont you think?

I would be a little suprised, but silly, or stupid, as an opinion is just that, an opinion.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old -28-02-2005
theodus69's Avatar
theodus69
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: so.cal.
Age: 44
Posts: 1,845
Rep Power: 8
theodus69 is a jewel in the roughtheodus69 is a jewel in the roughtheodus69 is a jewel in the rough
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

Opinion or not, I never said to trade the best Tackle in Football! Hope they can work a deal quick!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old -01-03-2005
Skynyrd's Avatar
Skynyrd
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lewisberry, PA
Age: 46
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 0
Skynyrd - is sitting in the middle of the road
Re: Will you feel silly...and will you admit it?

I'm with ziggy, utterblitz, and rampower on this one. I'm not going to feel silly either way. My only complaint with Pace has been his refusal all these years to be a team player and what that has cost us in terms of lost player personnel. All the parameters are in place for Orlando to PROVE that he's out for someone other then just Orlando. He has an agent, there's Walter Jones' contract to use as a guideline, and March 2nd looms. Now's your chance Orlando. Peace
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:32 PM.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
ClanRam.com is an independent fan site and not associated with the St Louis Rams or the NFL (National Football League). All content within this Rams fan page is provided by, and for, Rams fans. Copyright © ClanRam.com