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    Re: Williams urged Saints to injure specific *****

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    Kluwe, Shiancoe call Williams 'neanderthal'

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    Vikings punter Chris Kluwe has been vocal in his distaste for the Saints' bounty program since news of it first broke, but hearing a tape of former New Orleans coordinator Gregg Williams dissecting how to best injure players sent Kluwe to Twitter again.

    A pair of Minnesota Vikings teammates can't let go of the thought they should have been playing in the Super Bowl two-plus years ago after the latest came to light on former New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' bounty system.

    Audio released Thursday revealed Williams' tough tactics before a January playoff game against the San Francisco *****. Williams told his players in a meeting that was taped for a documentary to target a number of San Francisco players, stating, "Every single one of you, before you get off that pile, affect the head. Early, affect the head. Continue, touch and hit the head."

    For the Vikings, who lost to the Saints in the NFC Championship Game after the 2009 season when New Orleans reportedly had a bounty on Minnesota quarterback Brett Favre, the audio opened up old wounds. Hearing the words was enough to send Vikings punter Chris Kluwe into another of his Twitter tirades.

    "All you bounty apologists may want to listen to the Gregg Williams audio. #whatiswrongwithpeople," Kluwe wrote on his Twitter page (@chriswarcraft). " ‘The way you earn respect is through fear'. Are you (f******) kidding me? What kind of neanderthal message does that send.

    "No wonder this world's so messed up if people think that's an appropriate way to act and are willing to defend that kind of behavior."

    Tight end Visanthe Shiancoe, a free agent this offseason, responded to Kluwe, "what do u expect from a neanderthal?"

    Some former players have said Williams' speech isn't all that different from what is heard week to week in the NFL, but Kluwe disagreed. Responding to Shiancoe, Kluwe wrote, "Man, I know we've seen some crazy-a** speeches, but that's just unbelievable. What a jerk."

    Still showing bitterness over missing out on the Super Bowl still leaves a mark, Shiancoe replied, "We could have a ring right now."

    Kluwe responded, "Heh no use looking back, gotta keep pushing forward. Can't change the past."

    Favre, of course, was the target of a high-low hit in the game that severely injured his ankle. He continued but was obviously hobbled. The Vikings ended up losing in overtime to the Saints, who beat the Indianapolis Colts in the Super Bowl.

    In the audio released Thursday, Williams told his team before the ***** game to "find out the first two series of the game, the little wide receiver, No.10 (Kyle Williams) about his concussion. We need to (expletive) put a lick on him right now. He needs to decide. … We need to decide whether (Michael) Crabtree want to be a fake (expletive) prima donna, or he wants to be a tough guy. We need to find it out. He becomes human when we (expletive) take out that outside ACL. We need to decide on how many times we can beat Frank Gore's head. We need to decide how many times we can bull-rush and we can (expletive) put Vernon Davis' ankles over the pile."

    The coach also made a gesture rubbing his thumb and two fingers together to signify money when he said the team needed to hit quarterback Alex Smith in the chin. He was suspended indefinitely as part of the NFL's punishment for the bounty program, which reportedly Williams supported going back to his time in Buffalo almost a decade ago.

    Kluwe returned to Twitter later, possibly calmer, and explained why the issue needed to be addressed.

    "I see a lot of people asking about the context of the Gregg Williams audio clip as it relates to how other teams talk. I will enlighten!," Kluwe tweeted. "90% of what he said was standard rah rah motivational stuff. Hit guys hard, get him going sideways, etc.; all fine and heard before.

    "The part that is an issue is the other 10%, where he specifically talks about targeting ACL's, twisting guys' ankles in the pile, and trying to hit a concussion victim in the head again. That's why (Roger) Goodell has to come down so hard on this; you don't want that spreading."
    A punter tweeting this stuff? really?


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    Re: Williams urged Saints to injure specific *****

    Why does Kluwe being a punter matter?

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    Re: Williams urged Saints to injure specific *****

    Quote Originally Posted by GroundChuck View Post
    A punter tweeting this stuff? really?
    Punters have ACLs too don't they?

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    Re: Williams urged Saints to injure specific *****

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTalon View Post
    Why does Kluwe being a punter matter?
    Yes, punters are somewhat important but coming from a guy who was ranked 19th in the league, is in maybe 5-10 total plays in a game, and is probably not in the defensive meetings IMO doesn't need to be heard from regarding this bounty issue.

    And yes, punters have ACL's too.

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    Re: Williams urged Saints to injure specific *****

    Quote Originally Posted by GroundChuck View Post
    Yes, punters are somewhat important but coming from a guy who was ranked 19th in the league, is in maybe 5-10 total plays in a game, and is probably not in the defensive meetings IMO doesn't need to be heard from regarding this bounty issue.

    And yes, punters have ACL's too.
    I guess I just don't see any difference between Kluwe sharing his opinion and you or I sharing our opinion, except for the added advantage of actually having been in NFL team meetings.

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    Re: Williams urged Saints to injure specific *****

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferter View Post
    Just stay in your lane!

    lol Will take note of that!

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    Re: Williams urged Saints to injure specific *****

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTalon View Post
    I guess I just don't see any difference between Kluwe sharing his opinion and you or I sharing our opinion, except for the added advantage of actually having been in NFL team meetings.
    I think I would rather hear from somebody who was actually mentioned by Greg Williams than some mid-level punter looking to get his name in the papers. I don't recall any of the so-called targeted players chiming in such as Crabtree, Gore, or the little #10 guy. Those are the ones who have the legitimate beef, not Kluwe.

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    Re: Williams urged Saints to injure specific *****

    Williams will likely and could be banned. Due to putting hits on people that could have had their careers cut due to this.
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