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    It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    One thing is sure whether Fish becomes our next head coach or not. No one knows right now which young assistant coach will be the next to ascend to greatness. We have just as good a chance as any other NFL team in finding that guy. In a way it is similar to the NFL draft, in that a team rarely knows for sure how their picks will transition to the NFL.

    Jeff Fisher is a solid coach, and if hired, no doubt would bring stability and accountability to the Rams. If he makes the decision to coach elsewhere however, it could very well be a blessing in disguise, as Jeff is not the end all for us. His decision to coach elsewhere could force us to make a choice that could end up as being a fantastic (and lucky) decision. How many of us felt good when we found out Trent Green would be lost for the season in 1999? I for one didn't. We lost our guy (Trent) before we ever played a game that counted. By all rights, we should have been toast. But guess what?

    "You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, well you just might find you get what you need" .. Let's hope the Rams end up finding the one they so desperately need. We are long overdue some good luck for a change - aren't we??


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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    We are 0-2 with our most recent hirings of coordinators. It's time to look for and hire someone with HC experience. I'm tired of rolling the dice and just feel a lot more confident with someone in charge that has been in charge before.

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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    We are 0-2 with our most recent hirings of coordinators. It's time to look for and hire someone with HC experience. I'm tired of rolling the dice and just feel a lot more confident with someone in charge that has been in charge before.
    I too would prefer what appears the safer route i.e. hiring Fisher. However if he spurns us, I am not overly enamored of the other "experienced NFL" HCs available. Even Jeff is not a slam dunk as a perfect fit here. There is always the "roll of the dice" aspect to some extent. Just as when a team drafts and misses with a high pick at the same position a couple of times, it doesn't mean they shouldn't try again. Our best option may end up "rolling the dice" yet again on an OC, DC, or college head coach. As far as I know Fish hasn't revealed his choice yet, so he's still a possibility.
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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Of the 12 playoff teams this year, 9 are coached by former coordinators in their 1st head coaching position.

    Just sayin'.
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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    I never would have guessed it was close to that number. Interesting stat there HUb ..

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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Of the 12 playoff teams this year, 9 are coached by former coordinators in their 1st head coaching position.

    Just sayin'.
    Outstanding point. To add to that, the last three Super Bowl winning coaches AND the three runner-ups were also former coordinators in their first head coaching position.

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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Of the 12 playoff teams this year, 9 are coached by former coordinators in their 1st head coaching position.

    Just sayin'.
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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Ok then what are we doing wrong? Bad GM's?

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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    Ok then what are we doing wrong? Bad GM's?
    You do realize every NFL HC that has ever coached is a first time NFL HC, right? To simply cripple every possible candidate with the failures of coaches past is ignorant.

    Ownership has been a big part of not being able to not only hire the right coaches, but not being able to hire the right personnel. Stan has built competitive teams in various sports, and I have faith he will hire the right people to bring competitive football to St Lou.

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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    If we get another Assistant then there was no point in firing spagnulo first of all. He might as well have finished out his contract, if we are going after another assistant again

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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Of the 12 playoff teams this year, 9 are coached by former coordinators in their 1st head coaching position.

    Just sayin'.
    Yet oddly enough, none of them are named Scott Linehan or Steve Spagnuolo.
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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Quote Originally Posted by RamOG View Post
    If we get another Assistant then there was no point in firing spagnulo first of all. He might as well have finished out his contract, if we are going after another assistant again
    See the thing about Spags was that he chose to keep washed up veterans over young late round draft picks that could've been developed. His coaching decisions have been hair-rippingly (is that even a word?) questionable, from punting towards the end over going for it on 4th down, to kneeling it after being behind. He may very well become a great HC in the future but at the cost of our demise. No doubt Spags is one of the greatest defensive minds today. Heck, I'll consider him near Dick LeBeau's level of coordinating.
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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    I think a lot of these comments are in anticipation of Fisher going to Miami. Much like we look for the bright spot amongst bad news, we are tying hard to justify why suddenly not getting Fisher is "not a big deal". It is a HUGE deal. We have an opportunity to make a splash in getting the one candidate out there many teams covet. He's in demand for a reason: he's a good coach. And not getting him would mean another colossal failure on the part of the St. Louis Rams. Furthermore, if we don't get him, it would appear that he's concerned about the Rams' unstable stadium situation. Pretty interesting, considering a lot of clanrammers have basically been dismissive of the Rams ever leaving St. Louis.

    I really wish I could be more optimistic, but we've struck out twice with the last two coordinators. Never mind about this years' playoff teams and 1st time head coaches- WE haven't gotten it right, and it is therefore perfectly understandable that someone would not be overjoyed we'd go down this road again. Lack of faith in this organization is justified- and of course no one needs me to remind them of that, the pathetic record over the past 8 years speaks for itself.
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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Quote Originally Posted by RamOG View Post
    If we get another Assistant then there was no point in firing spagnulo first of all. He might as well have finished out his contract, if we are going after another assistant again
    Another ignorant statement. The guy was 10-38 and clearly had ZERO idea of how to run a unit. Give the job to a guy who minimally has the potential to run the unit, over the guy who has shown he has no potential in that.

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    Re: It won't be the end of the world if Fisher signs with someone else ..

    Quote Originally Posted by RamOG View Post
    If we get another Assistant then there was no point in firing spagnulo first of all. He might as well have finished out his contract, if we are going after another assistant again
    Not all Assistants are created equal.

    Sean Payton, Gary Kubiak, Mike Smith, Marvin Lewis, etc. .........it would appear they are good Coordinators that make good Head Coaches.

    Scott Linehan, Steve Spags..........it would appear they are not.
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