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    WR core rebuilding?

    Hey all,
    Looking at our current team I wonder why could we be having such struggles offensively. Then I read a post about our team being so young and without many talented players and I thought lets look at the WR group we have and see what is a big issue here.

    Firstly our WR Core is weak. Our most veteran WR has 4 years of experience. Now to me thats a problem because in most WR core's you have guys with more experience like that maybe not in the starting lineup but a veteran who helps in a support role of some kind. However we have been "rebuilding" and we got rid of 2 greats in Bruce and Holt. Now Bruce was a 2 sided deal he wouldn't take a pay cut and he was out but at the sametime the organization wasn't going to strive hard to keep him. He's in SF and with such a young and developing WR core I wish we had him but whats done is done.

    With the Bruce deal you would at least think we would keep Torry Holt. His presence was desperately needed on this team but sadly he was let go due his own request and the team not wanting to pay him what he thought he wanted. With our great WR's gone in the least few years we start some square 1 except having avery since 2007 who took the job after Bruce left. Also Bennett was a good veteran depth WR and was released due to injury issues and whatever reason wasn't completely clear so he's gone. Then we have Dane Looker who was a decent depth WR for several years whos gone and im not even sure the reason other than they felt that the huge struggles in recent years on offense weren't gonna cut it and everyone gets the blame. So we basically go from square one as far as WR's go now, cleaning out the vet house. Then the question that lingers was it the best way to go getting rid of our veterans?

    Now we have Avery, Robinson and Burton as our top WR's. Avery we know is a good player but theres a lot of pressure on him to be the top WR and its just taking time for him to learn and develop and he's doing what he can and the teams struggles are slowing him down. Robinson showed a lot of potential in his first year here but he's done for next year. Burton in average and he's developing as well but no where near a standout receiver and for sure a work in progress. We get Ruvell Martin to try to help our WR core whos done nothing so far and I don't see a whole lot of of. Amendola probably wont do a ton either and may not be the solution for the return game but we've got time to let him settle in. Our Core currently is Avery Keenan, Amendola, Martin and Nate Jones. Not exactly the elite WR core int he nfl but ok decent.

    For this year with Robinson gone we are pretty much just stuck with who we have to lean on to get it done. For years following? Are they really the answer?

    For this year unless we sign a big name free agent our WR core is who we have and the pains continue. While Avery and Robinson are good, wheres are Brandon Marshall? Reggie Wayne? Hines Ward? A big play great WR that this team needs? You hope Donnie and Robinson can develop into that but can they really? These are questions I have. I like our current group and they've tried to boost it by getting rid of stantley and boosting it but can they really succeed? I personally like all of our guys though but do they the talent to compete and build our offense?

    Now I understand not all of the problems go to the WR's not even close. They aren't setup for success due to QB problems which in turn has been in part to the o-line. However these our questions to ponder.

    Also maybe fill me in why Looker and others were cut and gone,a nd the importance if Torry Holt was still here and other veteran presences.
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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    Torry Holt's stats through three games this season: 12 Rec, 169YDs, 0TDs.

    Laurent Robinson's stats through three games this season: 13 Rec, 169Yds, 1TD.

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    Torry Holt was a joke. His heart and determination left when Isaac Bruce left.


    We do need a veteran player in my opinion, but no one over paid.
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    Devaney, if you care about this team... fire the offensive coordinator!!!!

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    The Rams have completely screwed up their wide receiver situation like they've done everything else. In the past three years, they've unloaded Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Kevin Curtis, Mike Furrey, Dane Looker, and for good measure tight end Brandon Manumaleauna. Some of these moves employed sound judgement while others were plain stupid and short-sighted. You mean to tell me a guy like Furrey couldn't have helped us and cost too much? Manumaleauna was worse than Dominique Byrd and Joe Klopfenstein? Nonsense. The Rams have gone from having an embarrassment of riches at the position to having one of the worst receiving corps in football and a big reason why the offense sucks.

    Compounding the problem is replacing all of these guys with players who haven't shown anything. After a decent rookie year, Donnie Avery hasn't shown us he's worthy of being a 2nd round draft pick and a mainstay at the position for years to come. Keenan Burton hasn't done anything. The tight end position has given us nothing. Drew Bennett was an overpaid, underachieving waste.

    The Rams receivers are a micrcosm of their football team as a whole- and that's not a good thing.

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    I liked the idea of having Harrison, till I found out he would have to learn an entirly new stystem in the limited time he had left in his career. Braylon Edwards just got traded to the Jets; I thought he would be great for our squad.

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    I'd suggest waiting to evaluate where they will be until after the season. Avery is still getting healthy and Burton seems to be a solid possession receiver. Robinson I'm doubtful will come back but if he does and if you add a mid-level veteran, they could have a decent squad for 2010. It hinges on Burton and Avery developing further.

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    Quote Originally Posted by RebelYell View Post
    I'd suggest waiting to evaluate where they will be until after the season. Avery is still getting healthy and Burton seems to be a solid possession receiver. Robinson I'm doubtful will come back but if he does and if you add a mid-level veteran, they could have a decent squad for 2010. It hinges on Burton and Avery developing further.
    Burton and Avery's development are crucial! I don't think Burton will develop into anymore than a solid third WR guy, which is great! As for Avery, he really needs to step up and be reay to accept the role of starting WR if we can't pick up any veterans to facilitate the learning process. Why don't you think Robinson will be back?

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmedrams81 View Post
    . Braylon Edwards just got traded to the Jets; I thought he would be great for our squad.
    really? well least ive learnt something new and interesting from this thread...tho he is a notorious dropper of the ball and not shown himself to be able to help a struggling team much so dont see how he would have been great for our squad..(a team with the same problems.)

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblin` Ram View Post
    really? well least ive learnt something new and interesting from this thread...tho he is a notorious dropper of the ball and not shown himself to be able to help a struggling team much so dont see how he would have been great for our squad..(a team with the same problems.)
    Basically, IMO, we have absolutly nothing to lose by picking the guy up. The least he could give the team is some mentoring to our young guys. Plus, yes the guy is experianced, but he is young himself. We could put him to great use in the future. I beleive a lot of his dropped passes were due to lack of team morale. Maybe a fresh start at a new team, although not good, will give him a boost? I just think we got nothing to lose, but it's all said and done, he's with New York

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    My concern is that our top 3 receivers all have had injury issues during their career. Has Robinson, Avery or Burton ever played a full year yet?

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmedrams81 View Post
    Why don't you think Robinson will be back?
    The guy just can't stay healthy. It isn't fair but how can a team count on him if he is constantly getting injured? Maybe he makes it back again next year, we'll see.

    I think Burton is being classified by people WAY before he has a chance to develop. He has solid hands, good speed and does a good job finding gaps in zone coverage. His only problem is getting off tight man coverage and that's something that can be learned.

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    Quote Originally Posted by RebelYell View Post
    The guy just can't stay healthy. It isn't fair but how can a team count on him if he is constantly getting injured? Maybe he makes it back again next year, we'll see.

    I think Burton is being classified by people WAY before he has a chance to develop. He has solid hands, good speed and does a good job finding gaps in zone coverage. His only problem is getting off tight man coverage and that's something that can be learned.
    Robinson had like a freak accident, someone landing on his leg.. Take the "healthiest" guy in the league and have him in Robinson's position and tell me that that person can't stay healthy because of that play..

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    Re: WR core rebuilding?

    As I recall, robinson pulled his hammy training last year for the falcons, and never had a chance to heal it up. That could be contributed to an injury bug. But its hard to attribute a broken bone to anything but an abnormality.

    After all, you wouldn't call Tom Brady or Carson Palmer injury prone because a linebacker decided to take their legs home as a souvenier.

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