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Old -02-01-2005
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You Want to give Martz credit?

From the start of this season any win the Rams get should be credited to Martz. No more does he have superior talent over the rest of the league. That said, if he gets this thing into the playoffs after all that has happened this year and everything he has had to overcome then he should get the credit for it without argument. It shows he can get it done on an even playing field. I hope like hell we are heaping acolades on Martz after tomorrow. I think this will be the case, I really do.
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*crickets chirp in this thread*

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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

I definitely give Martz credit. The team showed that rumors of their complete disunion were greatly exaggerated. Clearly, the team is still able to rally together and behind Mike Martz.
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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

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I definitely give Martz credit. The team showed that rumors of their complete disunion were greatly exaggerated. Clearly, the team is still able to rally together and behind Mike Martz.
no doubt about it. I really like the fact that the ESPN & hbo crews got burned with their "insights".

I am not a blind supporter of any player or coach on this team, I have been in MM's corner most of the time until recently but you really have to give the guy credit for entertainment value (although stressful) as he keeps you on the edge of your seat and makes it hard to modulate your voice during our games.

4 out of 5 seasons making the playoffs, and with the only season not earning a berth was after a 0-6 start in which we finished 7-9. I think that says a lot about the mad scientist but he does need to make some crucial changes next year.

AR, dou you believe at this moment that MM has to go?

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AR, dou you believe at this moment that MM has to go?
I still have my concerns about him, but as I said, I was very happy to see the way the team rallied behind him and played this tough game with heart.

Does he have to go? No. That was never my point. After the Cardinal game, I said he lost my support. He can still get it back. Today, he started heading in the right direction.
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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

I'll put it this way - I think anyone who questioned whether or not the team was going to quit on their coach after everything with Mort and Turley got their answer today.
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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

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I still have my concerns about him, but as I said, I was very happy to see the way the team rallied behind him and played this tough game with heart.

Does he have to go? No. That was never my point. After the Cardinal game, I said he lost my support. He can still get it back. Today, he started heading in the right direction.
Cool. I really enjoyed said thread after that humiliating loss to the r-birds. My memory is not as good as it could be as my bro' from the H-bolt arrived with some goodies like in the Hollow :redface:
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I'm still waiting, but thanks for asking RamTime.......





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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

Just out of curiousity, has any coach in RAMS history ever led our team into the playoffs 4 out of 5 years?
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Just out of curiousity, has any coach in RAMS history ever led our team into the playoffs 4 out of 5 years?
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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

Does Knox also own the best winning % for a RAMS HC too?

Thanks in advance!
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Does Knox also own the best winning % for a RAMS HC too?

Thanks in advance!
Last time I checked he did.......of course when it came to the playoffs the guy was jinxed.


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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

I agree witht he sentiment that this win doesn't exonnorate Martz from the criticism he's received, just helps calm the criticism down a little. I mean, he didn't really coach any differently than usual so I don't see how anything's really changed as far as Martz himself goes.

The usual laundry list of things that he does were there and I won't bother going over them. The team won, showed lot's of heart and desire and overcame their mistakes. It was probably their best game of the season taking into account the importance of the game, quality of the opponent and individual results on the field.

So, would I give Martz credit for today? Yes, in that the team found a rallying point in protecting their coach. Unity is the best thing a team can have going into the playoffs and if Martz is somehow consciously responsible for all of the negative press, player outburts, etc. that forced this team to band together then I would give him all the credit in the world. Manipulating events on such a large scale would truly be one of the greatest psycological ploys in sports history.

It's not impossible I suppose and looking back, the Rams, since 1999, have drawn a lot of their strength from rallying points. Kurt Warner, Marc Bulger, etc. have all made the team play as a unit and thus become successful. Up until this week, I didn't think the Rams had a "rally monkey" this year. Maybe now they do. I hope so. Up until this week I thought the Rams had no business being in the playoffs and would just be an embarassment if they made it at all. After today, I don't think that anymore. I think the Rams might just quietly advance in the playoffs. The matchups are good. The opposition is hurting and if the Rams keep scoring, they'll have as good a chance as anyone to get to the Super Bowl.
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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

He's still riding Vermiel's wave. :redface:
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Re: You Want to give Martz credit?

I won't just give him credit, I'll take it one step further.

Mike Martz is the very main reason the Rams have won a Super Bowl and also have been to the playoffs 4 out of the last 5 years.

Mike Martz is the main reason for the success of the St. Louis Rams.
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