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    any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    i`ve subscribed to Gamepass since it first started,can`t remember how many years exactly that is but anyway..as each new season has approached i then subscribe for the season ahead. i go for the full package,so i can watch every NFL game,NFL Network shows etc...
    due to the potential of a lock out this year i have held off subscribing...a few days ago i had an e-mail to say the usual "thank you for subscribing" blah,blah... i thought oh it`s just an error e-mail,they just sent it out because i`m already on their books..well i got a statement off the bank today and last week NFL enterprise LI had taken 151 from my bank account. am not sure how they have managed to do that,they obviously have my bank details from the past,but surely there has to be some authorization from me to pay it every time.

    any other Gamepass past subscribers had this happen to them?


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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    I had an email saying they were going to take the money automatically I emailsed them and told them not to take it automatically they changed my staus from auto renewel I don't remember filling out auto renewel when I subscribed last year or wether they were trying it on,

    I have now subcribed normally

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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    ah,that clears it up..cheers.
    i may have been sent that e-mail too but didn`t notice it,will have a browse through my past e-mails now.
    bit cheeky of them tho hey,i don`t recall filling out auto-renew either.

    hope you are not affected by the on-going rioting in London,i`m from Hammersmith originally...

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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    On a similar issue, after three tries of trying to re-subscribe to Gamepass (this time for the full season) thanks to Neulion not recognising the change of address on my debit card I've now got over 450 held from the bank, and have had to transfer the difference from my savings to cover that until it all sorts out. Bloody well hope I'm not coughing up 450...

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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    I'm about 20 miles south of croydon so the rioting hasn't come this far south yet

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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    Quote Originally Posted by sephjnr View Post
    On a similar issue, after three tries of trying to re-subscribe to Gamepass (this time for the full season) thanks to Neulion not recognising the change of address on my debit card I've now got over 450 held from the bank, and have had to transfer the difference from my savings to cover that until it all sorts out. Bloody well hope I'm not coughing up 450...
    blimey,hope you sort that out!

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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    Quote Originally Posted by ramstiles View Post
    I'm about 20 miles south of croydon so the rioting hasn't come this far south yet
    hope you stay safe. i didn`t think it would spread to Ealing..

    the decent folk of london are taking a stand tonight in Southall and Enfield...good to see.
    seems to be worse in the other English cities tonight.

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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblin` Ram View Post
    ah,that clears it up..cheers.
    i may have been sent that e-mail too but didn`t notice it,will have a browse through my past e-mails now.
    bit cheeky of them tho hey,i don`t recall filling out auto-renew either.

    hope you are not affected by the on-going rioting in London,i`m from Hammersmith originally...
    I think the auto-renew is the default setting on the account. It happened to me last year, I went to subscribe the week before the regular season started only to find out I'd paid for it in the first week of August and yet had watched all the Rams preseason game on dodgy streams. So I changed to the manual renewel this year.

    As for the riots, it seems like there isn't massive areas of violence as there were the first few nights but smaller pockets in many cities throughout the UK, hell, we've even had arrests here in Oxford. I think it's time they brought the water cannons in.

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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBritishRam View Post
    I think the auto-renew is the default setting on the account. It happened to me last year, I went to subscribe the week before the regular season started only to find out I'd paid for it in the first week of August and yet had watched all the Rams preseason game on dodgy streams. So I changed to the manual renewel this year.

    As for the riots, it seems like there isn't massive areas of violence as there were the first few nights but smaller pockets in many cities throughout the UK, hell, we've even had arrests here in Oxford. I think it's time they brought the water cannons in.
    oh, i didn`t realize we have pre-season games on there aswell..i`ve always subscribed the week before it starts....bit of a gutter that you watched it through dodgy streams when you had it on gamepass.



    there`s no water cannons currently in mainland u.k they got them in Northern Ireland..the trouble with water cannons is they are best used to move a crowd..the way the rioting is scattered they would just be chasing around all night. because of the ages of the rioters too CS gas is not a good idea because it could very well lead to kids being killed my cops (it`s only really supposed to be used on fully grown adults because of the effect it can have on lungs) and seeing as this apparently started in part due to the cops killing that gang banger..god help us if that happened.
    it is disgraceful i know and needs to stop,it`s a very tricky situation..if it was all adults it would have probably been sorted on the second night,not what we upto day 5 now.

    i think the Sikh community in Southall had the best idea..get a big group of all the grown men and make a human wall infront of their property and loves ones. the EDL showing up in Enfield helped to i guess..but could lead to making things worse.

    there`s plenty room in Wales if it gets too hairy in Oxford. i bet it`s more likely to kick off in didcut..if my travells through there are anything to go by..i was on the train once, it was the day Arsenal had last won the title and as the train pulled into didcut about 40 arsenal yobs started singing and jumped on the train,i glanced in their direction as a natural reaction and had some intimidation from them for the next few stops.. i was dating a girl in Oxford at the time...i didn`t go back. she would have had to have been Megan Fox to make me go through that again. ha
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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    I've read an interesting article regarding the whole riots. Can you guys tell me what you guys think of this and if there is any truth to it??? Sorry to take up this gamepass topic. I just find this riot very interesting, and this is one of the more interesting articles I have read. I just wonder how valid it is.

    A few months ago, the world watched, enthralled, as Prince William married his beloved Princess Kate at London's Westminster Abbey. Today, London is burning. The pomp and ceremony of the royal wedding long forgotten, for the past three days London has been under attack from some of its own inhabitants, as violent rioting has spread from North to South, East to West.
    The violence -- sparked by the killing of Jamaican-British man Mark Duggan by police last week -- has even spread far beyond London as young people have taken to the streets in other major cities like Birmingham and Bristol.
    The riots have been ferocious. Buildings have been burned down, shopping centers looted, police and firemen attacked. People are afraid for their lives and their livelihoods; Londoners are now angrily calling for the army to step in and a state of emergency to be declared. The footage is depressing and disheartening; it is sad to see the lawlessness and wanton violence, stealing, looting and thuggery that is being captured on video cameras and mobile phones.
    What's even sadder, however, is that I -- as a black British female -- am not surprised. Neither are my other black British friends who I have spoken to who now reside in the US. This has been a long time coming.It's even why some left in the first place.
    WATCH NBC NEWS COVERAGE OF THE VIOLENCE IN LONDON:
    The shooting of 29-year-old Mark Duggan on Thursday August 2nd was the catalyst for this violence. Duggan was shot and killed in Tottenham, a deprived part of North London with a large black population by a specialist unit of London's police force called Operation Trident. In Tottenham, tensions between the police and young people young black men in particular have been high for years. In fact, the area is well known for a major riot that took place in 1985. The Broadwater Farm riots, as they are known, also occurred in response to controversial incidents involving police and black people.
    NBC News correspondent Martin Fletcher: A tale of two Britains
    Operation Trident which was set up in 1998 to specifically deal with gun crime related to drug activity within London's black community -- is itself controversial among some sections of the black community. Even though Trident was set up by black activists to tackle so-called black-on-black killings, few of the police officers within the unit are black, and some see Trident as being just another way in which the police can oppress young black men who are already disproportionately targeted for criminal behavior.
    Mark Duggan's death seemed to touch a raw nerve, coming just months after another controversial police-related death of yet another black man, a British reggae artist known as Smiley Culture. A peaceful protest about Duggan's death turned violent. From then on, the violence has escalated.
    Conflicting reports from police have also fueled the troubles. At first, the police said that Duggan died in an exchange of fire, suggesting that he was shooting at them. Today's post-mortem examination shows that Duggan died from a single bullet to the chest.
    There is so much behind these riots that its hard to know where to begin. The main issue is that England and Londoners refuses to deal in any substantive way with its pressing issues. This violence is as a result of, among other things, unexamined racial issues, a crumbling sense of community among black people with no real leadership, unresolved class issues, social exclusion coupled with a lack of opportunities, a deep recession in addition to an extremely high cost of living, a new government who has been cutting back on services for youth, disenfranchised young people, and a dependency culture all rolled into one. As we've seen, this is a deeply dangerous combination.
    Nobody in England likes to talk about race. Londoners prefer to pretend or perhaps they really believe -- that the city is a melting pot, where everyone lives side by side in peace and harmony. They often chide America for they consider to be America's intense obsession with the topic, not realizing that it is America's willingness to talk about race that may account for the fact that it is home to many of the most successful black people in the western world.
    Statistics will tell you that while, superficially, people of all races may live side by side in inner city areas (as they certainly don't in London's wealthier areas), there is a major lack of opportunity for them. Black people are underrepresented in all areas of public British life from politics, to economics; educationally, we lag far behind, and we are overrepresented in crime and incarceration.


    Black kids, in particular, are raised in a culture of low expectations and low aspirations with no real hope for their future in a country where social mobility has been found to be no better than in medieval times. In a recent study on the UK's social mobility, the author gave a sobering assessment of the prospects for black Britons, saying: Even if the same rate of social mobility that we observe for the indigenous population applies to [the children of recent immigrants], it will be many generations perhaps centuries before they achieve status equality with the rest of UK society.
    England, still a bastion of tradition, also doesn't really know what to do with this new generation of British-born black youth. Unlike our parents or grandparents who came to England as immigrants, British born blacks are unwilling to act as if England is a host nation which must simply accommodate them because it isn't. It is our home. It is for many the only place that they have ever known, so it is understandably frustrating for many to have second-class citizen status. Back in the late 70s and early to mid 80s, black people dealing with similar frustrations, also used violence -- in some of these same parts of London -- as a tactic to get heard. It seems not much has changed.
    Although these latest riots started in Tottenham, as they have spread, the ethnic mix of the rioters has diversified. Why? Because social exclusion and disenfranchisement also runs along class lines in England, still a deeply class-orientated society.Class in England is different from in the U.S. In England, people generally don't move classes -- you end up where you were born. It is not based on how much money you may have today, as it might be in the U.S., but on who your parents are, your background and where you went to school. In England, on that basis, a rich person could still be considered working class.
    So now it seems, the white working class youth are also frustrated and fed up. They too have had enough it seems. The British middle classes openly call them chavs a derogatory term to denote lower or working class people -- and scum, while politicians refer to them as the underclass. In the past few years, the media has stoked up the notion that the white working class population is treated as badly, if not worse, than its black counterparts, with the BBC even putting on a white season of TV programming to show how hard the white youth have it these days.
    The welfare dependency culture of the UK also discourages personal responsibility or self reliance, and many of these young people simply feel entitled and that they deserve a hand out -- which they are not getting from a society that seems not to even care about them.
    London -- and England -- is now dealing with black kids, white kids and indeed most likely children from other ethnicities who all have their axes to grind, who feel victimized and oppressed and excluded in their own country with few opportunities. With no place to go to, nowhere for their voices to be heard, violence seems an easy answer. With a media looking for its next juicy story and instantaneous, free communication tools at hand -- it has been reported that Blackberry Messenger has been the main organizing tool for the riots, and it has allowed the quick spread of the violence from place to place -- suddenly the previously disenfranchised now have some power, destructive as it may be.
    Although I don't condone this violence, I hope that some important lessons will be learned. It's time for England to get talking about and taking action on its issues. It's time for it to address its issues about race and to start looking at what the future is for black Briton.
    It's time for it to address its class-ism and the way in which those at the top look down at those who are considered to be below them. It's time for them to address the breakdown of the family and of the community.It is also high time for the black population to take a long hard look at itself and find some answers, some solutions and start taking responsibility for its young
    Without this,

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    Re: any NFL Gamepass subscribers had this happen to them?...

    I found this out last night for my self. I only pay for the audio. I attempted to buy it as usual and an error come back saying i had already paid for it. There is a check box asking for permission to take the money out annually each season. First time i have seen this. I didnt buy anything off NFL.com last season or maybe I did without knowing. Everyone is after sqeezing money out of people.?

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