All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:15 PM.
Home Contact Us FAQ

ClanRam
bash08
bash08

Go Back   The ClanRam Forums > THE 2007 SEASON > NFL TALK

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old -13-05-2008
Rambos's Avatar
Rambos
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Cali
Age: 43
Posts: 3,184
Rep Power: 16
Rambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to behold
Bruce as a whiner

bruce-whiner-capt.65b5bc7777da4aa6a3ebe7a6cda3e336.49ers_minicamp_football_caps108.jpg

I had to get it over with...thoughts.
__________________
Chris Long DE Height: 6-4 Weight: 284

Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old -13-05-2008
moklerman's Avatar
moklerman
Status: Online
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Age: 37
Posts: 1,357
Rep Power: 10
moklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nice
Re: Bruce as a whiner

The Rams are penny pinching, dilweeds who have no sense of loyalty or tradition that don't care what might make the fans happy or upset?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old -13-05-2008
txramsfan's Avatar
txramsfan
Status: Offline
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 44
Posts: 6,030
Rep Power: 25
txramsfan has much to be proud oftxramsfan has much to be proud oftxramsfan has much to be proud oftxramsfan has much to be proud oftxramsfan has much to be proud oftxramsfan has much to be proud oftxramsfan has much to be proud oftxramsfan has much to be proud oftxramsfan has much to be proud of
Re: Bruce as a whiner

Quote:
Originally Posted by moklerman View Post
The Rams are penny pinching, dilweeds who have no sense of loyalty or tradition that don't care what might make the fans happy or upset?
Couldn't have said it better.
__________________
Why do people say "I don't mean to interrupt BUT". If you don't mean to interrupt, don't interrupt.
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Sponsored links

  #4 (permalink)  
Old -13-05-2008
HUbison's Avatar
HUbison
Status: Online
Superbowl MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Missouri
Age: 34
Posts: 8,440
Rep Power: 32
HUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant future
Re: Bruce as a whiner

Quote:
Originally Posted by moklerman View Post
The Rams are penny pinching, dilweeds who have no sense of loyalty or tradition that don't care what might make the fans happy or upset?
Your thoughts are understood, Mok. However, the bottomline is that the Rams bottomline is.......well, the bottomline.

Fan happiness is a mere by-product of a successful organization, not a goal.
__________________
"The greatest evil is conceived and ordered in clean offices, by men with white collars. Hence, my symbol for Hell is the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern." --- C. S. Lewis

"Dr. Lewis, allow me to introduce to you, Mr Shaw & Jay Zygmunt.....oh, I see you've already met." HUbison
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old -13-05-2008
moloch41's Avatar
moloch41
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PA
Posts: 898
Rep Power: 6
moloch41 is a glorious beacon of lightmoloch41 is a glorious beacon of lightmoloch41 is a glorious beacon of lightmoloch41 is a glorious beacon of lightmoloch41 is a glorious beacon of lightmoloch41 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Bruce as a whiner

Honestly- I don't think Bruce wanted to play for Linehan and wanted to play for Martz. Now, if we had included enough zeroes in his paycheck, he might have changed his mind, but the pen probably ran out of ink...
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old -13-05-2008
Rambos's Avatar
Rambos
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Cali
Age: 43
Posts: 3,184
Rep Power: 16
Rambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to behold
Re: Bruce as a whiner

Quote:
Your thoughts are understood, Mok. However, the bottomline is that the Rams bottomline is.......well, the bottomline.

Fan happiness is a mere by-product of a successful organization, not a goal.
I agree,

The next time we see Bruce in Rams gear is when he goes into the HOF.
__________________
Chris Long DE Height: 6-4 Weight: 284

Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Sponsored links

  #7 (permalink)  
Old -13-05-2008
Chris58's Avatar
Chris58
Status: Offline
Made the Ram Roster (just)
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Washington
Age: 58
Posts: 384
Rep Power: 4
Chris58 is just really niceChris58 is just really niceChris58 is just really niceChris58 is just really nice
Re: Bruce as a whiner

It had been brought up in an ancient previous post that Bruce had been the third highest paid WR in the NFL over the last 10 years (not sure about the # of years, but it was significant). That being said, as good as Bruce has been to the Rams, the Rams have also been good to him. I think Moloch41 has it right. He wanted his security blanket back and that was Martz. Proof: The difference in contracts was the number of years the two teams were offering. The dollars for 2008 were the same for the Rams and *****.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old -13-05-2008
moklerman's Avatar
moklerman
Status: Online
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Age: 37
Posts: 1,357
Rep Power: 10
moklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nice
Re: Bruce as a whiner

The Rams could have:

-made Bruce feel like he was a part of the plans on offense
-signed him to a contract that would have made him happy and not crippled the team's salary cap.

Instead, they've paid money for guys like Drew Bennett, Randy McMichael and Dante Hall.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old -14-05-2008
HUbison's Avatar
HUbison
Status: Online
Superbowl MVP
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Missouri
Age: 34
Posts: 8,440
Rep Power: 32
HUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant futureHUbison has a brilliant future
Re: Bruce as a whiner

Quote:
Originally Posted by moklerman View Post
The Rams could have:

-made Bruce feel like he was a part of the plans on offense
-signed him to a contract that would have made him happy and not crippled the team's salary cap.

Instead, they've paid money for guys like Drew Bennett, Randy McMichael and Dante Hall.
But Mok:

- According to all reports, Bruce wasn't a part of Saunders' plans on offense
- But if Saunders' didn't foresee a place for Bruce, the definition of "value" for any contract is greatly lowered. If that value is lowered below Bruce's acceptable perceived value, we get what we get...........a parting of the ways.

Now, the question that does really strike at me is: What is our post-rookie pool cap? I'm certainly no capologist, but IIRC, we had about $10M left going into the draft. Our rookie pool is roughly $6M, which leaves $4M free.

I'm giving the franchise the benefit of the doubt, but if we've got $4M just blowing in the wind, while Bruce is running around the Left Coast...........I get a little twisted in the neck, know what I mean? Now maybe, they're going to use it for locking down FAs (SJ, OJ, etc.), we actually have several of them coming up. If so, fine. But if not......
__________________
"The greatest evil is conceived and ordered in clean offices, by men with white collars. Hence, my symbol for Hell is the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern." --- C. S. Lewis

"Dr. Lewis, allow me to introduce to you, Mr Shaw & Jay Zygmunt.....oh, I see you've already met." HUbison
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Sponsored links

  #10 (permalink)  
Old -14-05-2008
Rambos's Avatar
Rambos
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Cali
Age: 43
Posts: 3,184
Rep Power: 16
Rambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to beholdRambos is a splendid one to behold
Re: Bruce as a whiner

Quote:
I'm giving the franchise the benefit of the doubt, but if we've got $4M just blowing in the wind, while Bruce is running around the Left Coast...........I get a little twisted in the neck, know what I mean? Now maybe, they're going to use it for locking down FAs (SJ, OJ, etc.), we actually have several of them coming up. If so, fine. But if not......
I agree we have too keep an eye on the big picture. I also think Bruce wanted to get as many yards as he can in his last few years. I wish him the best.
__________________
Chris Long DE Height: 6-4 Weight: 284

Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old -14-05-2008
Mooselini's Avatar
Mooselini
Status: Online
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,341
Rep Power: 4
Mooselini has a spectacular aura aboutMooselini has a spectacular aura aboutMooselini has a spectacular aura about
Re: Bruce as a whiner

I wish Bruce the best, but he's wearing the wrong color with the gold.

It sucks, just seeing that really hurts. I have my Bruce jersey on my wall, and I always pull that one down to wear. I like it alot. However, this will be rough on us Rams fans.

I guess from now after a big play by our receiver we can say Drew instead of Bruce......
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old -15-05-2008
moklerman's Avatar
moklerman
Status: Online
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Age: 37
Posts: 1,357
Rep Power: 10
moklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nicemoklerman is just really nice
Re: Bruce as a whiner

Quote:
- According to all reports, Bruce wasn't a part of Saunders' plans on offense
That troubles me. I like the acquisition of Saunders but if he can't work Bruce into the offense but he can work Bennett, McMichael, etc. into it, then I think it's a problem.

Ultimately, it's going to be pretty difficult for the Rams to do something spectacular enough for me to agree that getting rid of Bruce was the right call.
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Sponsored links

  #13 (permalink)  
Old -15-05-2008
Milan's Avatar
Milan
Status: Offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Canada
Age: 16
Posts: 1,273
Rep Power: 5
Milan - will become famous soon enoughMilan - will become famous soon enough
Re: Bruce as a whiner

I've gotten over this. I wasn't a football fan when Bruce was still dominating, I only started watching lately (4 or so years and the 2001 Super Bowl). I know what he's done for the organization and I was mad at first but now I'm over it.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old -15-05-2008
r8rh8rmike's Avatar
r8rh8rmike
Status: Online
Pro Bowl Ram
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Long Beach, Ca.
Age: 49
Posts: 4,313
Rep Power: 26
r8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant futurer8rh8rmike has a brilliant future
Re: Bruce as a whiner

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambos View Post
I had to get it over with...thoughts.
Thoughts? I think we let an icon go who may have arguably been our best receiver, after setting him up with a contract that was intended to let him retire a Ram. Still a bad move all around IMO.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old -15-05-2008
Chris58's Avatar
Chris58
Status: Offline
Made the Ram Roster (just)
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Washington
Age: 58
Posts: 384
Rep Power: 4
Chris58 is just really niceChris58 is just really niceChris58 is just really niceChris58 is just really nice
Re: Bruce as a whiner

I didn't like seeing Bruce go, but if we have $4 million laying around, I like the flexibility it provides the organization. Given we have some personnel issues to settle with existing players' contracts and possible FA pick-ups we're in pretty good shape to take care of business.
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Sponsored links

Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bruce Continues Climb RamWraith RAM TALK 9 -19-12-2007 11:49 PM
Bruce Back For More... Varg6 RAM TALK 4 -30-07-2006 02:57 PM
Bruce Happy to be Back RamWraith RAM TALK 4 -22-04-2006 06:27 AM
Keeping Bruce a Priority RamWraith RAM TALK 2 -25-02-2006 10:50 PM
Bruce wants an extension RamWraith RAM TALK 23 -18-12-2005 03:40 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:15 PM.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
ClanRam.com is an independent fan site and not associated with the St Louis Rams or the NFL (National Football League). All content within this Rams fan page is provided by, and for, Rams fans. Copyright © ClanRam.comAd Management by RedTyger