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    Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    Doctor calls Palmer's injury 'devastating'

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    CINCINNATI (Jan. 12, 2006) -- Carson Palmer 's knee injury was "devastating and potentially career-ending," involving numerous ligament tears, a shredded ligament, damaged cartilage and a dislocated kneecap, his surgeon said.

    The Cincinnati Bengals quarterback tore ligaments in his left knee when he was hit by Pittsburgh's Kimo von Oelhoffen on his first pass during the Steelers' 31-17 playoff victory.

    The team announced that he had torn the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments. The damage was much more extensive and severe, but Dr. Lonnie Paulos said surgery went well and Palmer could be back for the start of the season.

    Palmer had surgery Jan. 10 in Houston. Doctors used grafts from other parts of his body and donated tissue to fix the damage during an operation that lasted more than two hours. Palmer headed back to California on Jan. 12 to do his rehabilitation.

    "It's not just like it was a torn ACL," Paulos said in a phone interview from Houston. "It's a magnitude more difficult to recover from and repair. It can and has ended careers, without a doubt.

    "However, I feel very comfortable with Carson as an athlete and the heart that he's got. In the end, that's the bottom line. I can see the look in his eye already. He's ready to get going."

    Paulos, an orthopedic surgeon who has worked with the U.S. Ski Team since 1983, replaced the anterior cruciate ligament, which runs through the middle of the knee and provides stability. He said the medial collateral ligament, which runs along the side of the knee, was damaged "real bad."

    "On a scale of 1 to 3, it was a 4," he said. "It was off the chart. It was pretty badly damaged -- shredded is the better term."

    The kneecap dislocated when Palmer was hit, damaging tissue around it. There also was some cartilage damage, he said.

    Paulos was able to repair the knee without removing pieces of cartilage or soft tissue, a good sign.

    "The things that were torn could be repaired," he said. "They were not torn beyond repair. So he's got all his parts in there, which is good. We're optimistic, actually."

    If rehabilitation goes well, Palmer could be running in a couple of months and might be able to play in the first regular season game, Paulos said. The 2006 schedule hasn't been set.

    Palmer has worn a protective brace on the left knee since he sprained it near the end of the 2004 season. The knee bowed inward on von Oelhoffen's hit even though Palmer was wearing the brace,

    "The brace didn't function well in this environment and should have done better than it did, frankly," Paulos said.

    The plan is for Palmer to wear more substantial braces on both knees when he returns.

    "No brace is perfect," Paulos said. "No brace can prevent every injury, but they do help."

    Paulos saw the replay of the injury and wasn't surprised at the extent of the damage it caused. Palmer has absolved von Oelhoffen, saying he didn't think the lineman was trying to hurt him. The lineman said he was trying to sack Palmer, not injure him. He wasn't penalized for the hit.

    Palmer made the Pro Bowl in only his second season as a starter, throwing an NFL-leading 32 touchdown passes. The club extended his contract through the 2014 season.

    Jon Kitna, who has been Palmer's backup and mentor the last two years, can become a free agent. Palmer's injury will force the Bengals to make sure they have another reliable quarterback on board.

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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    That really stinks if that injury was/is career threatening.
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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    If he keeps playing(I know he will) the guys gonna end up with Kenny Stabler knees.
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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    The injury was horrid to him but the worst part is this... It was a late hit... The ball had been down field 2 seconds before he got hit and that DT kept bull rushin and fell into him. Sad to here!>
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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    His doctor says that his knee, on a scale of 1-3, was a 4 in terms of severity and is definately career threatening. The op went well though, and he stated that he thought that Carson looked committed to returning.

    All depends on Carson now and I sincerely hope he makes it.

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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    This is probly the worst news I have heard all season. The guy grew up in laguna niguel my home town. Jordan his little brother was my best friend in elementry school. I always support my local team. I feel heartbroken. I hope he recovers. To me he was gonna be great but I have a feeling he will recover to be greater than anybody ever imagined. SOCAL luvs u Carson and Jordan (Utep) GOOD LUCK!

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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    That is cool that you know him and his brother Socalramfan.

    My brother, who is a Steeler fan, was wondering if the hit was somewhat intentional and the result of some cheap shots at Ben earlier in the season. You have to wonder with late hits, if the players do what they can to avoid hitting a QB or not.

    Carson was my backup QB on my FF team (Bulger was my starter). I have been watching Carson throughout the season. I hope he can recover and play again.
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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    But in the Cincinnati newspaper this morning, Paulos downplayed his previous quotes in the AP story (the one in the first post of this thread) by saying that Palmer's injury was "Nothing unusual." and "Again, it was a regular football injury. It was severe enough to require surgery."
    Words and phrases he used to describe the AP story were "exagerated", "sensationalized", "out of context", and "false."
    He said Palmer's injury was "a very typical football injury". "He's a great athelete. He's a stud. He'll be back in a few months".
    He didn't deny that this type of injury was serious and could potentially end a career, but in Palmer's case he seemed very positive about a good recovery and returning to play next season.

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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    1. The hit wasn't dirty.

    2. Palmer will be back, but I think it will be 2007 before he's truly ready. That's just a guess, though I had a similar injury to Palmer (not as bad).

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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    It might push cincy to try and trade up in the draft for a QB if the reports are right and the injury seriously hampers his career.
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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    My guess is that they'll stick with Jon Kitna until Palmer is ready.

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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam
    My guess is that they'll stick with Jon Kitna until Palmer is ready.
    They should, but Kitna wants to be a starter or at least more playing time and is looking at his options.

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    Re: Carson Palmer's career in danger?

    They should, but Kitna wants to be a starter or at least more playing time and is looking at his options.
    Kitna is not really what you might call starter material. He may think that he is, but he really is not. He is better off staying there where he is in an offense that he knows until Palmer is ready.

    I was working this weekend and had to listen on the radio to that game. I think that it was Bob Trumpy that said that Mike Holmgren described Kitna as a math teacher living out his dream to be an athlete. Not a bad description...
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