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    Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    Trade talks with Saints break off
    By Kevin Acee
    UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

    August 25, 2006

    Donnie Edwards, not for lack of trying to leave his hometown, appears stuck here for now.

    Sources said yesterday the Chargers and New Orleans Saints have broken off trade talks, the Saints refusing to come up from their offer of a fourth-round draft pick in exchange for the beleaguered linebacker.

    The Saints are the only suitor to have contacted the Chargers.

    Sources also said that Edwards and General Manager A.J. Smith spoke recently in a meeting requested by Edwards. In that conference, Edwards asked Smith to let him go to New Orleans.

    Following the meeting, the Chargers contacted the Saints and said they would take a third-rounder in exchange for Edwards, but New Orleans held firm.

    Smith yesterday stuck by his policy, adopted early in training camp, of not discussing Edwards.

    Edwards declined to speak to the Union-Tribune yesterday.

    Edwards pulled up lame in the Chargers' second practice on the first day of training camp and has not practiced since. He has in the past week appeared on the verge of returning to practice but has yet to do so.

    Matt Wilhelm, meanwhile, has acquitted himself as a viable replacement. Head coach Marty Schottenheimer has said Edwards will be the starter if he is healthy.

    The 10-year veteran, an alumnus of Chula Vista High, will miss the Chargers' exhibition game against Seattle tomorrow. Should he return to practice when the team resumes work Monday, which Schottenheimer said he expects, Edwards could play in the exhibition finale Sept. 1 at San Francisco and be ready for the regular-season opener 10 days later.

    “He needs to get to work,” Schottenheimer said. “It will take him some time. I don't care who you are, it's a different pace.”

    If Edwards is not dealt before the Oct. 18 trading deadline, he will play the season essentially as a lame duck. He is clearly ready to leave, and equally clear for some time now is that Smith has little use for him.

    The Chargers in April informed the rest of the NFL that Edwards was available for trade. Smith's asking price was a second-round pick. While the Chargers came down by saying they would accept a third-rounder, word out of New Orleans has always been the Saints aren't going to part with a first-day pick.

    The difficulty in obtaining a high pick for Edwards is that teams do not want to overpay for a 33-year-old linebacker in the final year of his contract. Edwards is due $3.55 million this season, the final installment of a five-year, $18.75 million deal.

    Edwards, who has missed just one start since 1997, has led the Chargers in tackles each of his four seasons in San Diego. He also led the Chiefs in tackles from 1998 through 2001. Only Miami's Zach Thomas has more tackles over the past seven seasons.

    Many of Edwards' tackles, however, are downfield. And among linebackers, he ranks 61st in sacks and 36th in tackles for loss over the past seven seasons.

    It is true that Edwards is not asked to be a pass rusher and, in fact, is among the league's best linebackers in coverage. But the fact that he is not a game-changing linebacker in the vein of Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher, yet has continually asked for more money while being among the league's highest-paid inside linebackers, is what has apparently rankled Smith.

    In June, Smith said: “It has become crystal clear to me that Donnie is very unhappy with his contract and has been for a few years. We have always appreciated Donnie Edwards' playing ability, and we believe he is well-compensated. However, because of his unhappiness we will do everything possible to find him a new team – a team that will appreciate him the way he would like and will compensate him with an amount that will make him very happy and content.”

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    Re: Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    This kind of stuff just rubs me the wrong way. Yeah, Edwards has had a nice career and he is a good linebacker but as the article says he hasn't been a game changer. How much does this guy think he's worth ? How many years is he looking for ?

    What ever happened to loyalty to your team and friends that play on that team ? Schottenheimer to tough ?? Only 1 team showed any interest ? what's that tell him ? Time to wake up and smell the coffee Mr Edwards.

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    Re: Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    Yeah, Edwards has had a nice career and he is a good linebacker but as the article says he hasn't been a game changer.
    This is where I somewhat disagree. I think Edwards has been one of the most nationally-underrated players in the NFL for years now, much like Trent Green at the quarterback position. Even if some of his tackles have been downfield, it doesn't change the fact that he's making a phenominal amount of tackles and is all over the field in San Diego. For the last three seasons (2003-2005), Edwards has ranked in the top five in tackles, and was in the top ten the year before (2002).

    The guy's done nothing but played hard for years, and I think is more than deserving of a raise. Keep in mind that in 2002, Edwards signed a five-year contract worth $18.75 million. That same year, Ray Lewis signed a seven-year deal worth approximately $50 million, and in 2003, Brian Urlacher signed a whopping nine-year contract worth $56+ million. I don't think the difference between Ray Lewis and Donnie Edwards is leap and bounds, but the disparity between the two deals is clear.

    I think Edwards should have been awarded a contract extension/raise a year or so ago, but the Chargers have been playing hardball and now are just handling it poorly. In this instance, I don't blame the guy for being upset considering the large disparity in other top MLB contracts considering he's statistically been at the top of the league for years now. For the Chargers to meet with Edwards, confirm his desire to move on, and then make such an action even harder just seems like a really unprofessional way to reward a guy that's been a cornerstone of the defense for a while.
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    Re: Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    I've been a Donnie Edwards fan since his days at UCLA. I agree that he's been underrated throughout most of his career and deserves more respect from San Diego, who are playing things pretty tight these days.

    Edwards has been solid, steady and consistent his entire career. 2005 was arguably one of his best years, if not the best. A tackling machine with 152 tackles and a playmaker who had 3 sacks, 2 interceptions and 2 forced fumbles last year. Those numbers, plus his abilities in coverage make him a guy I would love to have with the Rams.

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    Donnie Edwards

    Is he worth looking at. Sources in SD say he wants out and the Chargers want a 3rd round pick........

    I know he's been in the league for a long time. However, he's played on some great defensive teams......

    Should the Rams take a long hard look at Edwards?????

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    Re: Donnie Edwards

    Quote Originally Posted by CRAZYHORNS View Post
    Should the Rams take a long hard look at Edwards?????
    I don't know how you give a 33-year-old LB in a contract year a hard look when it's going to cost a third round pick. New Orleans' offer of a fourth should have had the Chargers dealing immediately. Edwards has been amazing, but the drop off has to be coming soon. He wants and deserves a big pay day, but you're not going to sign a player of his age to a huge 5-6 deal with big money. I just don't see it working out at all.
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    Re: Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    This is where I somewhat disagree. I think Edwards has been one of the most nationally-underrated players in the NFL for years now, much like Trent Green at the quarterback position. Even if some of his tackles have been downfield, it doesn't change the fact that he's making a phenominal amount of tackles and is all over the field in San Diego. For the last three seasons (2003-2005), Edwards has ranked in the top five in tackles, and was in the top ten the year before (2002).
    I agree Nick, he's not the best, but is consistent. I wouldn't mind seeing him in horns if the compensation is right.
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    Re: Donnie Edwards

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    I don't know how you give a 33-year-old LB in a contract year a hard look when it's going to cost a third round pick. New Orleans' offer of a fourth should have had the Chargers dealing immediately. Edwards has been amazing, but the drop off has to be coming soon. He wants and deserves a big pay day, but you're not going to sign a player of his age to a huge 5-6 deal with big money. I just don't see it working out at all.
    If I were the RAMS FO, I would at least talk with the Chargers to see if something could be worked out. I'm sure Haslett would love o have Donnie on this defense. I'd give up a fourth for him, maybe even a low third, you just don't get that kind of production from a rookie third or fourth rounder. Edwards bring more that just his ability, he has a strong character and has been a good leader since Seau left.
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    Re: Donnie Edwards

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMMAN68 View Post
    If I were the RAMS FO, I would at least talk with the Chargers to see if something could be worked out. I'm sure Haslett would love o have Donnie on this defense. I'd give up a fourth for him, maybe even a low third, you just don't get that kind of production from a rookie third or fourth rounder. Edwards bring more that just his ability, he has a strong character and has been a good leader since Seau left.
    The only way you can even think about making this trade if you're the Rams is if you think they're only a player away from the Super Bowl. Realistically, I think we can put up more wins than last season but I doubt our chances to get into the playoffs this season. So trading away a third round pick for a guy who could potentially only play one year for you before testing the market just doesn't seem wise. You're right, you don't get that kind of production from a rookie third or fourth rounder... in their first year. Over an entire career? I dunno. I'll probably take my chances with a third round rookie than Donnie Edwards for one season where chances are we're not going to the big game to begin with. Just being realistic here.
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    Re: Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    This is where I somewhat disagree. I think Edwards has been one of the most nationally-underrated players in the NFL for years now, much like Trent Green at the quarterback position. Even if some of his tackles have been downfield, it doesn't change the fact that he's making a phenominal amount of tackles and is all over the field in San Diego. For the last three seasons (2003-2005), Edwards has ranked in the top five in tackles, and was in the top ten the year before (2002).

    The guy's done nothing but played hard for years, and I think is more than deserving of a raise. Keep in mind that in 2002, Edwards signed a five-year contract worth $18.75 million. That same year, Ray Lewis signed a seven-year deal worth approximately $50 million, and in 2003, Brian Urlacher signed a whopping nine-year contract worth $56+ million. I don't think the difference between Ray Lewis and Donnie Edwards is leap and bounds, but the disparity between the two deals is clear.

    I think Edwards should have been awarded a contract extension/raise a year or so ago, but the Chargers have been playing hardball and now are just handling it poorly. In this instance, I don't blame the guy for being upset considering the large disparity in other top MLB contracts considering he's statistically been at the top of the league for years now. For the Chargers to meet with Edwards, confirm his desire to move on, and then make such an action even harder just seems like a really unprofessional way to reward a guy that's been a cornerstone of the defense for a while.
    agree with you on this Nic He is very underrated as a player! Lewis and Urlacher are way over paid IMPO!

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    Re: Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    Quote Originally Posted by talkstoangels61 View Post
    agree with you on this Nic He is very underrated as a player! Lewis and Urlacher are way over paid IMPO!
    All these guys are way overpayed. Guys in training camp get 4000 a week? WOW, I'd love that! That's a pretty easy job with that kind of money. It's hard work and all, but if you're in shape it's not that terrible.


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    Re: Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    Quote Originally Posted by Varg6 View Post
    All these guys are way overpayed.
    Not compared to the other big pro sports, I don't think.
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    Re: Donnie Edwards wants out of San Diego

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    Edwards pulled up lame in the Chargers' second practice on the first day of training camp and has not practiced since. He has in the past week appeared on the verge of returning to practice but has yet to do so.
    Notwithstanding this typical T.O. type maneuver to stay out of preseason games and training camp to avoid injury and maintain value, I don't see the Rams going for this guy. We don't need another veteran presence in our linebacking corp. We need some top talented youth to learn from the vets we now have. Anyway...at this point in his career, I don't see a team signing this guy to a long term contract, nor do I see him wanting one. He's probably looking for a sizable up front signing bonus with the contract going maybe 3 years, 4 at the most.
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    Re: Donnie Edwards

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    The only way you can even think about making this trade if you're the Rams is if you think they're only a player away from the Super Bowl. Realistically, I think we can put up more wins than last season but I doubt our chances to get into the playoffs this season. So trading away a third round pick for a guy who could potentially only play one year for you before testing the market just doesn't seem wise. You're right, you don't get that kind of production from a rookie third or fourth rounder... in their first year. Over an entire career? I dunno. I'll probably take my chances with a third round rookie than Donnie Edwards for one season where chances are we're not going to the big game to begin with. Just being realistic here.
    I hear what your saying Nick; I think the Rams should at least talk to the Chargers and see what kind of reasonable deal they could work out.

    IMO Edwards could really be an impact on this defense. And as the old saying goes, "Defense wins championships."
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    Re: Donnie Edwards

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMMAN68 View Post
    I hear what your saying Nick; I think the Rams should at least talk to the Chargers and see what kind of reasonable deal they could work out.

    IMO Edwards could really be an impact on this defense. And as the old saying goes, "Defense wins championships."
    It seems clear the Chargers want a third. NO offered a fourth and that wasn't good enough. I'm not even sure I'd send a fourth in this situation. Edwards is a very good player but in a contract year at that age, he's the kind of guy you sign as a FA, not trade for. My two cents.

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