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    Maybe a Fairer poll?

    I'm thinking a little less black and white... LOL


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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    I will always enjoy watching Warner have a good or even great game no matter who he's playing. The bottom line though is that my number one allegience is to the RAMS. So as long as the RAMS win the game Warner can have his career game against us.

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Make no mistake, in 14 of the Cardinals games, I am cheering for Warner. I like the guy.

    But when his Cardinals play the Rams, there is a decision to be made............Warner or Rams. The success of one is in direct opposition of the other. There is no possible way to do both.
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    I will always enjoy watching Warner have a good or even great game no matter who he's playing. The bottom line though is that my number one allegience is to the RAMS. So as long as the RAMS win the game Warner can have his career game against us.
    That's why I made THIS poll so you could vote for BOTH! lol

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Make no mistake, in 14 of the Cardinals games, I am cheering for Warner. I like the guy.

    But when his Cardinals play the Rams, there is a decision to be made............Warner or Rams. The success of one is in direct opposition of the other. There is no possible way to do both.
    You must not play fantasy football much..

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Actually, I root against Warner even when he's not playing the Rams.

    Is it because I don't like Warner? No.

    Its simple. Arizona is in the Rams' division. If Warner plays well against another team, and the Cardinals win as a result, that makes it harder for the Rams to make the playoffs.

    If Warner played for Miami, and he was playing New England, I'd root fot him.

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Actually, I root against Warner even when he's not playing the Rams.

    Is it because I don't like Warner? No.

    Its simple. Arizona is in the Rams' division. If Warner plays well against another team, and the Cardinals win as a result, that makes it harder for the Rams to make the playoffs.

    If Warner played for Miami, and he was playing New England, I'd root fot him.

    Kind of sucks having someone that good traded to a division rival, don't it?

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by atcchris View Post
    Kind of sucks having someone that good traded to a division rival, don't it?
    He wasn't traded to the Cardinals, and when he left the Rams he wasn't very good. Hey, but apart from that complete lack of factual accuracy... great post, Chris!

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    I voted Rams again!! did already vote and reply on this no brainer but somehow it vanished..

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    He wasn't traded to the Cardinals, and when he left the Rams he wasn't very good. Hey, but apart from that complete lack of factual accuracy... great post, Chris!
    No, I guess the Cardinals actually signed him as a free agent, so there's one point for you, but the factual content of your statement takes a hit with your 2nd point... there was no way to determine how "good" Warner was when he was cut.... We didn't really get to see him play because of Martz' and the FO's paranoia.

    We DO know that he's played well enough to start on two other teams since, though, don't we?

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by atcchris View Post
    No, I guess the Cardinals actually signed him as a free agent, so there's one point for you, but the factual content of your statement takes a hit with your 2nd point... there was no way to determine how "good" Warner was when he was cut.... We didn't really get to see him play because of Martz' and the FO's paranoia.

    We DO know that he's played well enough to start on two other teams since, though, don't we?
    More of a placeholder until their first round pick QBs were ready, I'd say.

    In his last several games with the Rams, Warner was not very good. Look it up.

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    We've been over this ground before. Warner didn't get the chance to play against the teams Bulger played against... we've been floundering ever since Martz and the FO decided to put their egos ahead of the team.

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Quote Originally Posted by atc
    We've been over this ground before. Warner didn't get the chance to play against the teams Bulger played against...
    Yes, we have....and to be fair the winning percentage of the teams Warner faced was in fact lower than the win percentage of Bulger's opponents.
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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Yes, we have....and to be fair the winning percentage of the teams Warner faced was in fact lower than the win percentage of Bulger's opponents.
    Which games are you referencing? Warner's last 8 vs. Bulger's...?

    Strength of opponent's schedule plays a part in the discussion but it's down the list compared to home vs. away, playcalling(balance), predictability and Warner playing with broken bones.

    I'm glad Warner left though. Distancing himself with his Rams legacy in tact is much better than going down with the perennial Titanic of the NFL.

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    Re: Maybe a Fairer poll?

    Which games are you referencing? Warner's last 8 vs. Bulger's...?
    I'm referring to the 2002-2003 games in which they were the main QB.
    Strength of opponent's schedule plays a part in the discussion but it's down the list compared to home vs. away, playcalling(balance), predictability and Warner playing with broken bones.
    Now you're getting into your opinion. I disagree. However, the fact remains that Bulger's opponents had a higher win % than Warner's.
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