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Mike Martz
MM had 1 interview with the Miami Dolphins but the Dolphins haven't had him back for a follow-up. Arizona, Atlanta, Oakland and Pittsburgh haven't shown any interest at all. What happened to MM? (the offensive genius)
Did his run ins with the Rams front office condem this man?
What else could it be?
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Re: Mike Martz
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Originally Posted by laram0
MM had 1 interview with the Miami Dolphins but the Dolphins haven't had him back for a follow-up. Arizona, Atlanta, Oakland and Pittsburgh haven't shown any interest at all. What happened to MM? (the offensive genius)
Did his run ins with the Rams front office condem this man?
What else could it be?
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uh.... he sucks as a head coach, and everyone knows it?
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Re: Mike Martz
He should'nt have been so arrogant. We should have won that playoff game vs. Carolina double OT. (Tried to go conservative)
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Re: Mike Martz
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uh.... he sucks as a head coach, and everyone knows it?
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Exactly what I was going to say.
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Re: Mike Martz
The statement that Martz "sucks" as an NFL head coach is not one that can be objectively supported. Martz' record in his tenure with the Rams was far from that of a man who "sucks" and before the chorus of "He was blessed with a wealth of talent and screwed it up" starts, I'd point out that if he sucked that badly then he'd have struggled to get above .500.
There were things that he could be criticised for but for me, the statement that he "sucks" gets tossed out a little too casually.
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Re: Mike Martz
I think that more than anything it just may be his personality. No one should question his record, but it is his quirks and brash personality that hold him back. he'll get another shot at HC if someone is willing to give him a chance and he agrees to answer to the front office. That's just my opinion...
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Re: Mike Martz
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I think that more than anything it just may be his personality. No one should question his record, but it is his quirks and brash personality that hold him back. he'll get another shot at HC if someone is willing to give him a chance and he agrees to answer to the front office. That's just my opinion...
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Either that, or the other way around....a laissez-faire owner who gives Martz control of the FO. That was the problem in St. Louis, he had the laid-back owner, but never had any control in the FO.
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Re: Mike Martz
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The statement that Martz "sucks" as an NFL head coach is not one that can be objectively supported. Martz' record in his tenure with the Rams was far from that of a man who "sucks" and before the chorus of "He was blessed with a wealth of talent and screwed it up" starts, I'd point out that if he sucked that badly then he'd have struggled to get above .500.
There were things that he could be criticised for but for me, the statement that he "sucks" gets tossed out a little too casually.
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Okay FatP, how about this....
Mike Martz couldn't coach a pop-warner football team. He was handed the keys to a fantastic football team and screwed it up so badly that we're still trying to recover from his vanity and errogance. Even a complete moron could get the team he inherited to .500. So using his record as an indication of his coaching ability holds no water.
..in other words, he sucks.
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Re: Mike Martz
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Okay FatP, how about this....
Mike Martz couldn't coach a pop-warner football team. He was handed the keys to a fantastic football team and screwed it up so badly that we're still trying to recover from his vanity and errogance. Even a complete moron could get the team he inherited to .500. So using his record as an indication of his coaching ability holds no water.
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That's just off the planet but at least you've left us in doubt how you feel about him.
It's also wholly subjective of course.
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