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    Re: Ray Buchanan says Vick fights dogs

    looks like Vick could end up as the Mike Tyson of football, what i mean by that is they both had the world by the b**** and gave it away being stupid,both were wealthy beyond belief , but surrounded themselves with low life scumbags who drain there bank account and run there life into the ground,but they are adults and should be able to have some control of there own life,so i don't feel sorry for either one of them.


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    Re: Ray Buchanan says Vick fights dogs

    Michael Vick is headed down the wrong path and he is not coming back. I don't think you can recover from this sort of negative reputation.

    I have no sympathy for him. I don't understand him or anyone who is capable of this type of cruelty.
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    Re: Ray Buchanan says Vick fights dogs

    To the one who posted the ESPN article, here's an extended version from Yahoo! Sports:

    The lead investigator in the case of dog-fighting accusations against Atlanta quarterback Michael Vick said Monday that she believes there is substantial evidence to eventually tie Vick directly to the felony crime.

    That evidence could eventually include videotapes of Vick at matches. Kathy Strouse, the Animal Control coordinator for the City of Chesapeake in Virginia, said Monday that she has received a tip from what is described as a "reliable source" that tapes of Vick exist that would tie him directly to the burgeoning scandal and a possible felony charge.

    "We don't know where (the tapes) are or if they do indeed exist, but I have been told that they are out there," said Strouse, who is also affiliated with two other organizations involved in the welfare of animals. "Without knowing where they are, there's no possibility of getting a search warrant at this point."

    Strouse said she has also talked with individuals who can "put Vick on that property" during matches. However, those individuals have been reluctant to testify at this point, leaving much of the evidence against Vick that has become public at this point as circumstantial.

    Last month, Vick's residence in Smithfield, Va., was raided and dog-fighting paraphernalia was confiscated. Vick initially denied any knowledge of the situation, blaming family and friends for the operation. However, Vick declined to comment on the advice of attorneys when approached at the Falcons' mini-camp over the weekend.

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    Regardless, Strouse said she is "very confident" about eventually tying Vick directly to the dog fighting based on the evidence she and other investigators have gathered. The information has come after years of talk throughout the Newport News area where Vick grew up that he has been involved in dog fighting.

    For her part, Strouse was not backing down and essentially challenged Surry County Commonwealth attorney Gerald Poindexter to charge Vick. Last week, Poindexter made statements indicating he was reluctant to charge anyone with dog fighting.

    "He was at the home and saw the equipment that we seized," Strouse said of Poindexter. "When we were there, he said he had enough right there to issue an indictment. He didn't say who he would indict, but he said he had enough.

    "Now, with what he has said, it makes you think, 'What in the world is going on in Surry County?' This certainly doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy about the Surry County attorney," Strouse said.

    Poindexter did not return a call from Yahoo! Sports on Monday.

    Dog fighting is a felony in 48 states and is a misdemeanor in Idaho and Wyoming. In Virginia, a conviction can carry up to five years in prison and/or a fine of up to $2,500, Strouse said.

    Before the NFL draft in late April, Vick met with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to discuss the situation. In addition, Falcons owner Arthur Blank has expressed growing concern with the investigation.

    Earlier this offseason, the Falcons traded backup Matt Schaub to the Houston Texans and later signed veteran Joey Harrington to be Vick's primary backup. However, Harrington is not seen as a long-term solution.

    On Friday, Vick politely told a group of approximately 30 reporters that he wasn't going to discuss the latest controversy and that the only thing on his mind was football.

    "It is still under investigation, and once it is over, we will talk about it. As of right now, I cannot talk about the situation," Vick said. His lone departure from that was to say: "Don't plan on talking about me anymore unless it's about football."

    While Vick's non-answer was predictable, it was also an interesting backtrack from only two weeks before. On April 27, the day before the draft, Vick was in New York to promote the NFL Quarterback Challenge. At the time, Vick was asked about the investigation in Virginia and disassociated himself from the house and the investigators' findings.

    Vick's response was quickly refuted. According to several media outlets, neighbors said that Vick was seen in the area regularly and had even purchased materials such as syringes, which are often used in the training of dogs for fighting.

    On Friday, NFL scout, one-time Yahoo! Sports analyst and current FOX Sports Radio host Chris Landry took it a step further during an interview on 620 WDAE in Tampa, Fla. Landry said that Ray Buchanan, a former Atlanta defensive back, told him that Vick has been involved in dog fighting for years.

    "(Buchanan) tells me that Michael has been into this dog fighting for so long that he not only knew about, he is behind all of it," Landry said. "He's paying for all of it Apparently, he's into it big time."

    Buchanan strongly denied saying any of that when contacted by Yahoo! Sports on Monday.

    "I have to talk to Chris about all of that because I didn't say anything like that at all," Buchanan said. "If I was going to say any of that, I would have said it myself on my own radio program. I don't know anything about Michael being involved in any of that and I would not snitch on a player if I did. I'm a player's mouthpiece."

    These developments led to conjecture about whether Vick will get in trouble with federal authorities and/or the NFL. Blank told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution last week that he is obviously concerned.

    "From the facts we have so far, it's not a pretty picture. It's clearly an issue, and we'll wait to see what revolves around it," Blank said.
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    Re: Ray Buchanan says Vick fights dogs

    ...and can you believe what Clinton Portis said about it? This is just a sample of his stupid comments.

    "I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, it's his dog," "If that's what he wants to do, do it. I think people should mind their business." "You want to hunt down Mike Vick over fighting some dogs?," Portis told the television station. "I think people should mind their own business."

    Portis said that dog fighting is more common than people think.

    "I know a lot of back roads that have the dog fighting if you want to go see it," he said.

    ...and if those comments aren't bad enough, how about this. When told that dog fighting is a felony, Portis replied, "It can't be too bad of a crime."

    It's hard to believe that such stupidity and ignorance is still so prevalent in this country. I'll bet his agent was just cringing with every stupid response. He had to be thinking, "shut up, you idiot, just freakin' shut up!"

    What a moron.
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    Re: Ray Buchanan says Vick fights dogs

    That evidence could eventually include videotapes of Vick at matches. Kathy Strouse, the Animal Control coordinator for the City of Chesapeake in Virginia, said Monday that she has received a tip from what is described as a "reliable source" that tapes of Vick exist that would tie him directly to the burgeoning scandal and a possible felony charge.
    Wow. If true and they can be found, talk about a bombshell. That is of course if the Feds can get a hold of them before Vick "buys" them.

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    ...and can you believe what Clinton Portis said about it? This is just a sample of his stupid comments.

    "I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, it's his dog," "If that's what he wants to do, do it. I think people should mind their business." "You want to hunt down Mike Vick over fighting some dogs?," Portis told the television station. "I think people should mind their own business."

    Portis said that dog fighting is more common than people think.

    "I know a lot of back roads that have the dog fighting if you want to go see it," he said.

    ...and if those comments aren't bad enough, how about this. When told that dog fighting is a felony, Portis replied, "It can't be too bad of a crime."

    It's hard to believe that such stupidity and ignorance is still so prevalent in this country. I'll bet his agent was just cringing with every stupid response. He had to be thinking, "shut up, you idiot, just freakin' shut up!"

    What a moron.
    Agreed. Sheer stupidity on Portis' part. His comments could very well cause him some future grief.

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    Re: Ray Buchanan says Vick fights dogs

    Yeah lost alot of respect for portis on this. never that big on vick to start with anyway. but i hope if found guilty he gets the maximum. and I hope people don't still follow such a piece of crap.. I don't even think he should be allowed to play in NFL this years. I'd love to get my own time in a fight with someone who pulls this stuff

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    Re: Ray Buchanan says Vick fights dogs

    That evidence could eventually include videotapes of Vick at matches. Kathy Strouse, the Animal Control coordinator for the City of Chesapeake in Virginia, said Monday that she has received a tip from what is described as a "reliable source" that tapes of Vick exist that would tie him directly to the burgeoning scandal and a possible felony charge.
    I'll have to check on you tube.
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