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    Report: CBA talks broke down after union proposed 50-50 split ..

    Posted by Mike Florio on February 10, 2011, 10:56 AM EST


    So much for optimism.

    Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that Thursday’s bargaining session between the NFL and the NFLPA was canceled after the two sides hit a wall regarding the most important aspect of the deal, the formula for splitting up the money.

    Mort reports that the NFLPA proposed a split of roughly 50-50 between players and owners, and that the owners walked away from the table in response.

    Apparently, the meeting — which lasted far less than the expected nine hours — got off to a bad start when the NFL’s negotiating team supposedly interpreted the players’ proposal of 49-to-51 cents on the dollar as being the cut of “total football revenue,” not “all revenue.”

    Currently, the players get 59.6 cents of each dollar of ‘total football revenue,” a number that is roughly $1 billion less than all revenue generated by the sport.

    The league’s misinterpretation of the proposal is a bit surprising, since a 50-50 split of total football revenue would have reflected the much-debated 18 percent reduction that the owners’ reportedly have asked the players to take. Then again, the union’s decision to propose essentially a 50-50 sharing of all revenue is equally surprising, given that the players currently get roughly that amount under the current deal.

    According to NFLPA spokesman George Atallah, the players received 51.87 percent of all revenue in 2002. In 2003, it dropped to 50.23 percent. In 2004, it was 52.18 percent. In 2005, 50.52 percent. In 2006, it was 52.74 percent. In 2008, it was 50.96 percent. In 2007, it was 51.84 percent. In 2008, it was 50.96 percent. In 2009, it was 50.06 percent.

    Thus, an offer to take 50 cents of every dollar represents no concession at all.

    That said, we think it was unreasonable for the league stormed out. We assume the proposal reflected an opening offer from the union under an “all revenue” model, and opening offers implicitly contain room to move. With the league refusing to open the books to justify the desire to cut the players’ share, it’s not unreasonable for the players to say, “Look, let’s quit bickering about the league taking money off the top and let’s just work out a formula based on every dollar that comes in. Our first move is to ask for roughly what we currently get. Feel free to counter.”

    If the NFL truly wanted to do a deal, the NFL would have countered.

    It makes us think that the NFL actually wants to lock out the players, or to push the negotiations to the brink of a lockout in the hopes of getting the players to drop their proposal without a counter.

    That said, if the union made its proposal as a take-it-or-leave it gesture, then it makes us think that the NFLPA wants to force a lockout in the hopes of getting a better deal via the application of litigation and/or political pressure, a strategy that to date has failed miserably.

    Either way, the outside lawyers who are handling the negotiations (Jeffrey Kessler for the union and Bob Batterman for the league) continue to bill by the hour, and every hour of effort expended on the negotiations and a lockout and whatever comes next will serve only to fatten their coffers.


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    Re: Report: CBA talks broke down after union proposed 50-50 split ..

    Both sides are children.

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    Re: Report: CBA talks broke down after union proposed 50-50 split ..

    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenWing View Post
    Both sides are children.
    How do we get them to grow up and man the f up?

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    Re: Report: CBA talks broke down after union proposed 50-50 split ..

    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenWing View Post
    Both sides are children.
    Spoiled, bratty children. It's a wonder the NFL has been able to function at all. The fact that they can't even have discussions without one side stomping out of the meeting isn't a good sign. Hopefully both sides will wise up and get this thing taken care of relatively quickly, but I won't hold my breath.

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    Re: Report: CBA talks broke down after union proposed 50-50 split ..

    Seems the owners are prepared to grind the players down. Given the current state of the economy, it would seem that the owners are better prepared to outlast the players financially. I don't think "fairness" is something that owners lose any sleep over. They see an opportunity and will press to take advantage of it. The old "Don't take it personally, it's just business" mentality prevails here. Perhaps things will get resolved, but I expect things to get much uglier before they get better. I sure hope I am dead wrong about this ..

    When things do finally get back on track, there are a few changes I would like to see:

    1) If the owners get their way with expanding to an 18 game regular season (and I'm sure they will), both NFL teams and fans would benefit were active rosters expanded to offset talent a drain resulting from injuries accrued over an 18 game regular season.

    2) Reign in the ridiculous salaries paid to rookies who have never played and NFL down.

    3) Use some of those savings to provide better medical care for NFL vets no longer playing the game.

    Pipe dreams most likely, but as a fan I can dream ...

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    Re: Report: CBA talks broke down after union proposed 50-50 split ..

    Common sense will never prevail, not as long as all these egomaniac's are involved.

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    Re: Report: CBA talks broke down after union proposed 50-50 split ..

    As I was reading this, I kept waiting for the name "Poston" to pop up as a negotiator for one side or the other.

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    Re: Report: CBA talks broke down after union proposed 50-50 split ..

    Quote Originally Posted by GROUND DOG 39 View Post
    Common sense will never prevail, not as long as all these egomaniac's are involved.
    It sure looks that way. For any side to cut off talks because they "misinterpret" a proposal is rediculous. Aren't negotiations suppose to work out these types of issues?? The contentious, unreasonable nature of this mess is distubing, especially when the Rams are ready to break out of turn the corner. I just can't imagine the pain of a season without football.....

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