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    Si.com top 500 players

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../08/28/1to100/

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    18) Marc Bulger - Only 8 picks in 588 attempts last year
    24) Torry Holt- NFL's A-rod: 289 catches since '04
    30) Steven Jackson- look for another 2,000 plus total yards
    60) Leonard Little- More '06 sacks and hurries than even Jason Taylor
    66) Orlando Pace- Strong after tearing triceps
    141) Will Witherspoon - excelled in first year at MLB
    256) Adam Carriker- DE moved inside
    331) James Hall
    344) Drew Bennett
    356) Pisa Tinoisamao
    373) La'roi Glover
    393) Tye Hill
    399) Randy McMichael
    411) Isaac Bruce
    427) Brian Leonard
    446) Jeff Wilkins


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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    Where's Dante' Hall???

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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    Bruce is gonna have an amazing year this year. I've been saying ti to everyone, and hes only 411...?

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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    Quote Originally Posted by itsguud View Post
    Bruce is gonna have an amazing year this year. I've been saying ti to everyone, and hes only 411...?
    Yeah just watching him catch that pass over the middle from Bulger in the Chargers Pre-season game had me excited, great route as usual from Ike..

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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    My thoughts on this, FWIW........

    1. This is NOT comparing apples to oranges. This IS comparing apples to oranges to squash to pepperonis to chickens to Ford Explorers to Hugo Chavez' niece's dog.

    In football, more than any other sport, one can not make comparison across positions. I know it, you know it, and Peter King knows it. He says as much in his "criteria for the 500" article. Yet he did it anyway. Good for him, but in the end it's as meaningless as every other ranking in preseason. It makes for nice discussion, but nothing more.

    2. Bruce at 411 is jaw-dropping awful when viewed against other receivers.

    341 Brandon Manumalauna (TE, but I had to mention this one)
    344 Drew Bennett
    345 Anthony Gonzalez
    374 Roscoe Parrish
    376 Ted Ginn, Jr.
    383 Mushin Muhammed
    395 Matt Jones
    402 Kevin Curtis

    All ranked ahead of Bruce. I must ask......right now, would you replace Bruce with any of them? The coaching staff declined to replace him with at least two of them (Curtis, Bennett).

    What's it going to take for Bruce to get noticed? How many electrocuted pitbulls will he have to drive through the doors of a strip club after shooting a girl he gave herpes to under an assumed name while covering up for a member of his entourage will it take before Bruce gets a little respect?
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    I don't see how they can put Smith right ahead of Holt saying he is "the most complete receiver"? Complete!?!? He is great, but hardly consistent. Smith has speed, but Torry is a complete package (awareness downfield, route-running, etc.) I am in no way trying to take away from Smith, he is great. But I don't think you can judge the best NFL WRs like that. As HUbison pointed out:
    2. Bruce at 411 is jaw-dropping awful when viewed against other receivers.

    341 Brandon Manumalauna (TE, but I had to mention this one)
    344 Drew Bennett
    345 Anthony Gonzalez
    374 Roscoe Parrish
    376 Ted Ginn, Jr.
    383 Mushin Muhammed
    395 Matt Jones
    402 Kevin Curtis
    Now that's a little crazy, putting anythony gonzalez and Ted Ginn that far ahead. I would like to see a position by position one though.

    edit- they havent proved a thing (ginn, gonzalez)

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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    Another comical list/ranking. This type of list/ranking is the exact reason why people shouldn't get bent out of shape when reading rankings about Rams players or the team itself whether it be about the preseason or the regular season. It's just ridiculous, surely most of us, if not all of us could come up with a better and more realistic list.
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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    When you try to rank 500 guys, you're bound to make a few mistakes. I'm not sure if I could even name FIVE HUNDRED current NFL players, much less be able to objectively compare their contributions to their teams against each other regardless of position.

    That said, it's an insult to Bruce to stick him below Manumaleuna. Heck, Tank Johnson--whom no NFL team will even touch right now--is ranked #300.

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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    the Bruce thing is bad, but Randy McMicheal, our starter at TE, is rated at 399, which is lower then Manumaleuna's 341. And Manu is a backup that doesnt see much time behind Antonio Gates

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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    My thoughts on this, FWIW........

    1. This is NOT comparing apples to oranges. This IS comparing apples to oranges to squash to pepperonis to chickens to Ford Explorers to Hugo Chavez' niece's dog.

    In football, more than any other sport, one can not make comparison across positions. I know it, you know it, and Peter King knows it. He says as much in his "criteria for the 500" article. Yet he did it anyway. Good for him, but in the end it's as meaningless as every other ranking in preseason. It makes for nice discussion, but nothing more.

    2. Bruce at 411 is jaw-dropping awful when viewed against other receivers.

    341 Brandon Manumalauna (TE, but I had to mention this one)
    344 Drew Bennett
    345 Anthony Gonzalez
    374 Roscoe Parrish
    376 Ted Ginn, Jr.
    383 Mushin Muhammed
    395 Matt Jones
    402 Kevin Curtis

    All ranked ahead of Bruce. I must ask......right now, would you replace Bruce with any of them? The coaching staff declined to replace him with at least two of them (Curtis, Bennett).

    What's it going to take for Bruce to get noticed? How many electrocuted pitbulls will he have to drive through the doors of a strip club after shooting a girl he gave herpes to under an assumed name while covering up for a member of his entourage will it take before Bruce gets a little respect?
    Don't get all bent out of shape at Bruce's number HUb. I am sure they are aging him and they think he is near the end of his career. I think he is primed for a great year and he still has plenty of speed, skill, smarts, and competitive spirit to play well in this league. Let's hope that our coaches know more than this writer.

    Getting noticed is not necessarily a good thing....I am pretty sure Mick Vick wishes he had a lot less attention right about now.
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    Re: Si.com top 500 players

    I think Bruce and Jackson deserve a little higher then that.

    Bruce could very well be fifth in all-time receiveing yards after this season and he posted a 1000 yard season last year, I think he deserves more credit then that. How can rookies who haven't played one snap in a real game be on this list? If you want to factor in age why is Walter Jones number 10? He's like 37 or 38 and was injured last year.

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