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Old -14-03-2008
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Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

Okay, on another forum there was quite a spirited debate about Bulger's longevity and prospects for continuing as the Rams' QB. I think the consensus was that for better or worse (depending on your perspective) Mark is our guy. Some have speculated that he is capable of being a top five QB in the NFL. So be it. But with that in mind, I invite you to name the top 8 (25%) the QBs in the NFL not named Mark Bulger. Use whatever criteria you wish to rate them but so state what that criteria is so we understand your perspective. Put them in order from #1 best to 8th best.

For my rankings I used a lot of "feel" in my choices. While performance was important, I did not crunch statistics for any analysis. Some choices will be obvious to you but an overarching judgment I made for my choices was their field generalship, huddle presence and demonstrated enthusiasm for the game and on field success (Ws and Ls).
  1. Tom Brady
  2. Peyton Manning
  3. Ben Roethlesberger
  4. Matt Hasselbeck
  5. Drew Brees
  6. Carson Palmer
  7. Donovan McNabb
  8. David Girard

Honorable mention: Philip Rivers
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Ben Roethlesberger
4. Donovan McNabb
5. Derek Anderson
6. David Gerard (what an amazing year he had last season. He's only going to get better)
7. Tony Romo
8. Matt Hasselbeck
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Carson Palmer
4. Ben Roethlisberger
5. Drew Brees
6. Tony Romo
7. Donovan McNabb
8. Eli Manning


I wouldn't put Derek Anderson or David Garrard on the same level as any of these guys.
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

Correction: I mispelled David Garrard's name. Just in case anyone is wondering who Girard is.
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

1, Roman Gabriel
1, Kurt Warner
2, Pat Haden
3, James Harris
4, Vince Ferragamo
5, Joe Namath
6, Jim Everett
7, Trent Green

And That Should Do It .
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1, Roman Gabriel
1, Kurt Warner
2, Pat Haden
3, James Harris
4, Vince Ferragamo
5, Joe Namath
6, Jim Everett
7, Trent Green

And That Should Do It .
KMK, I appreciate your love of past Ram QB's, however the focus was to be on current active NFL QB's.
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

1. Peyton Manning
2. Tom Brady
3. Tony Romo
4. Drew Brees
5. Matt Hasselbeck
6. Carson Palmer
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Kurt Warner
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

Can those of you who have listed Tony Romo in the top 8 give me your reasoning? Personally I think he is highly over-rated and more of a media invention. He's surrounded by great talent and has been unable to move the "boys" to the promise land. In my mind he'd be a backup for most other teams except he has this marquee persona. What is it that you see that I don't?
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

I guess I could agree that Romo is overrated while at the same time thinking he's pretty good. I think it shouldn't be forgotten that he's started less than 2 full seasons. His first two years of numbers stack up pretty well to other QB's in the league.
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

for the guys who think Romo is overrated and I am one of them same could be said for David Garard,one good season does not put you in the top 25% of the NFL
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

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Can those of you who have listed Tony Romo in the top 8 give me your reasoning? Personally I think he is highly over-rated and more of a media invention. He's surrounded by great talent and has been unable to move the "boys" to the promise land. In my mind he'd be a backup for most other teams except he has this marquee persona. What is it that you see that I don't?

36 TDs last season...for really a second year QB?

How come you have David Garrard on the list? He's also proven that he can't lead his team to the promised land, and he's only had one good year.
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36 TDs last season...for really a second year QB?

How come you have David Garrard on the list? He's also proven that he can't lead his team to the promised land, and he's only had one good year.
I admitted that I did not use statistics for my ratings. I put most of my rankings on my observations of these QBs leadership on the field as well as team success. I only asked about Romo because it seems the media has made him into a rock star. I asked you all so I could get an opinion from others as opposed to the media.

Related to this I heard Tim Brown in a recent interview refer to Romo as a "guy". Translation: a pro athlete who is good but more of a "guy" as opposed to a star and leader. This reinforced my initial negative impression of him. Plus I hate the Cowboys with all my heart.
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

Hmm let's see at the top you have Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as the clear top 2.

I'm putting Eli Manning at #3 only based on how he performed in the playoffs...that Eli was just as good as his big bro.

After that it's debatable who should fill out 4-8....in no particular order because really they change throughout the season...Anderson, Romo, Roethlisberger, Palmer, Garrard.

Then the next step below that Hasselbeck, Mcnabb, Brees, Warner.

Bulger IMO is in the mix with that 2nd tier group somewhere.
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Re: Top 8 NFL QBs not named Bulger

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Can those of you who have listed Tony Romo in the top 8 give me your reasoning? Personally I think he is highly over-rated and more of a media invention. He's surrounded by great talent and has been unable to move the "boys" to the promise land. In my mind he'd be a backup for most other teams except he has this marquee persona. What is it that you see that I don't?
He's taken them to the playoffs both years he's been a starter, and I'm not holding his one-and-dones against him, considering what Peyton went through for so many years. I think he's got what it takes provided he stays focused (and isn't asked to hold for kicks). He's shown great improvisational ability, he's a solid pocket passer as well as being able to throw on the run, and he's the only QB who's actually gotten TO to like him. With their running game hopefully in better shape with the departure of Jones, if he can get a solid #2 wideout, I think the 'Boys make an even stronger run next year.

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He's shown great improvisational ability, .
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One play against the Rams last year still brings much angst. :x
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