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    The unbreakable record

    Records are made to be broken.

    But that doesn't mean they all CAN be.

    As I look over all the records out there, some real doosies come to mind: Night Train's 14 picks in '52, Bledsoe's 691 pass attempts in '94, Bruce Smith's 200 career sacks, Paul Krause's 81 career picks, etc.

    However, IMO, the unbreakable record is held by John Elway........and it ain't necessarily a good one. John Elway has been sacked more than any QB in the history of NFL football..........516 times. That's 2.2 times for every game he played.

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    Favre - 439
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    Kitna - 287
    Culpepper - 270
    Dilfer - 263
    Carr - 262

    There's your top 8 with Carr the only one in his 20's (28). And Carr will have to average 26 sacks a season for another decade to reach Elway. That could have happened in Houston, but not as a backup in NY or anywhere else for that matter.

    One guy that might could do it........Ben Roethlisberger. He's averaging 36.5 sacks per year. If he can play another decade, he has a shot at it. So what will it take? It will take him doing well enough to keep his job, and being sturdy enough to get back up after every hit.

    I think Big Ben can challenge the record, but it will be a tough road to travel.......especially considering he has to get knocked down another 370 times before he reaches the end of it.

    Come on, Big Ben; take your beating, you can do it!

    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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    Re: The unbreakable record

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    Records are made to be broken.

    But that doesn't mean they all CAN be.

    As I look over all the records out there, some real doosies come to mind: Night Train's 14 picks in '52, Bledsoe's 691 pass attempts in '94, Bruce Smith's 200 career sacks, Paul Krause's 81 career picks, etc.

    However, IMO, the unbreakable record is held by John Elway........and it ain't necessarily a good one. John Elway has been sacked more than any QB in the history of NFL football..........516 times. That's 2.2 times for every game he played.

    Here's the active leaderboard:

    Favre - 439
    Testaverde - 417
    Collins - 305
    McNabb - 299
    Kitna - 287
    Culpepper - 270
    Dilfer - 263
    Carr - 262

    There's your top 8 with Carr the only one in his 20's (28). And Carr will have to average 26 sacks a season for another decade to reach Elway. That could have happened in Houston, but not as a backup in NY or anywhere else for that matter.

    One guy that might could do it........Ben Roethlisberger. He's averaging 36.5 sacks per year. If he can play another decade, he has a shot at it. So what will it take? It will take him doing well enough to keep his job, and being sturdy enough to get back up after every hit.

    I think Big Ben can challenge the record, but it will be a tough road to travel.......especially considering he has to get knocked down another 370 times before he reaches the end of it.

    Come on, Big Ben; take your beating, you can do it!
    How many times has Bulger been sacked?

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    Re: The unbreakable record

    Quote Originally Posted by laram0 View Post
    How many times has Bulger been sacked?
    202. Which places him one behind Tom Brady at 203.
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    Re: The unbreakable record

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison View Post
    202. Which places him one behind Tom Brady at 203.
    Thanks HUbison,

    Wow it doesn't seem possible that Brady has been sacked that many times.

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    Re: The unbreakable record

    The most unbreakable record in sports is held by cy young. 749 career complete games. TOday, a starting pitcher (who doesnt miss any starts for injury) gets 36 starts per year. To break Young's record, a pitcher would have to pitch for 21 years without missing a start and pitching a complete game every time out. THe odds of that are zero.

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    Re: The unbreakable record

    Quote Originally Posted by general counsel View Post
    The most unbreakable record in sports is held by cy young. 749 career complete games. TOday, a starting pitcher (who doesnt miss any starts for injury) gets 36 starts per year. To break Young's record, a pitcher would have to pitch for 21 years without missing a start and pitching a complete game every time out. THe odds of that are zero.

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    Nor does it appear that anyone will approach Babe Ruth's 170 Bases on Balls form 1923. In a 154 gameseason. 2,213 walks for his career.
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    Re: The unbreakable record

    Yes, those are both unbreakable records.........in baseball.
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    Re: The unbreakable record

    Barry Bonds walked 232 times in 2004. Cy Youngs 511 wins is next on the unbreakable list. Any single season record is more breakable than a career record, but the bases on balls was an especially bad example as it is in fact not the record.

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    Re: The unbreakable record

    Quote Originally Posted by general counsel View Post
    Barry Bonds walked 232 times in 2004. Cy Youngs 511 wins is next on the unbreakable list. Any single season record is more breakable than a career record, but the bases on balls was an especially bad example as it is in fact not the record.

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    Indeed, it was.. my source must be older than Barroid's record(s)
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    Re: The unbreakable record

    Who do you think could be the one to break Bulger's record of fastest to 10,000 yards

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    Re: The unbreakable record

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    Who do you think could be the one to break Bulger's record of fastest to 10,000 yards
    I think we're mixing a couple of records. I believe Holt is the fastest to 10,000 receiving yards; while Bulger is (tied with Marino & Warner for) the fastest to 15,000 passing yards.

    I'm not sure which record you meant, but yea, both of those will be tough to eclipse having been products of the GSOT.
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    Re: The unbreakable record

    ED rookie record has stood for a long time. That will be hard to brake.
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    Re: The unbreakable record

    I agree with your choice of Ben Roethlisberger. Hes big and he is good, he can take it.

    Interesting topic.

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