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    Union Files Grievance for Quincy Carter

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    OXNARD, Calif. -- The NFL Players Association filed a special master proceeding against the Dallas Cowboys on Monday on behalf of quarterback Quincy Carter, claiming the quarterback was released by the team for reasons not permitted in the NFL collective bargaining agreement.



    "You don't go from being a starting, playoff quarterback in this league to someone not good enough to make the 80-man roster the next summer," Richard Berthelsen, the union's general counsel, said in a statement.


    The NFLPA filed for a special master proceeding that would be heard by professor Stephen Burbank of the University of Pennsylvania Law School. The union said the first step would probably be the taking of depositions from Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and coach Bill Parcells.


    Carter's agent, Eugene Parker, said his client was approached by the union about filing the grievance. Carter supports the action, but his focus remains on playing.


    "It's in the Players Association's hands. They're handling it," Parker said. "It's not on Quincy's mind. His mind is on getting ready mentally and physically to play. He's doing what he can to continue to prepare. ... He's trying to move on. What else can he do?"


    Jones wasn't available for comment before the Cowboys practiced Monday afternoon.


    Carter, who started all 16 regular season games plus the Cowboys' playoff game last season, was unexpectedly released by the team Aug. 4. That leaves 40-year-old Vinny Testaverde as the team's only experienced quarterback.


    The team has not given a reason for Carter's release, although there were widespread reports that he had failed a drug test. Parcells and Jones have been vague publicly, but the owner has said he was willing to discuss the reasons with the league or the Players Association.


    "We've made a decision to move in a different direction," Jones said when Carter was released. "We're not going to get in a lot of detail on the process."


    The CBA does not permit teams to administer drug tests, although if Carter already was in the league's drug program by virtue of a previous positive test, he could be tested by the league.


    Parker declined to go into specifics about the case, but like the union would like to know how Carter went from Parcells saying he had a "leg up" on the competition to being off the team a few days later.


    Union spokesman Carl Francis said he expects the case to take at least a few weeks.


    While he didn't talk about the grievance Monday, Parcells said the Cowboys have adjusted and moved on without Carter.


    "I don't there was much of a psychological adjustment," said Parcells, whose team opened the preseason with an 18-0 loss Saturday night at Houston. "When you start training camp, when we started, players were coming and going. I don't think there's much to that."


    Carter's agent, Eugene Parker, didn't return messages.

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    Re: Union Files Grievance for Quincy Carter

    Here's the part I found amusing......


    "You don't go from being a starting, playoff quarterback in this league to someone not good enough to make the 80-man roster the next summer," Richard Berthelsen, the union's general counsel, said in a statement.
    Unless you're Warner.....and, for cryin' out loud, Warner isn't even a crackhead!
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    Re: Union Files Grievance for Quincy Carter

    Quote Originally Posted by Yodude
    Here's the part I found amusing......




    Unless you're Warner.....and, for cryin' out loud, Warner isn't even a crackhead!
    Wait, stop! Tx, AV, Nick step away from the keyboard. I'll take this one for you.

    Warner was a starting playoff QB in Jan. 2002. He was cut in June 2004, two years later. There you go guys, cooler heads prevailed.

    But Yo, for the record, I get your point.
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    Re: Union Files Grievance for Quincy Carter

    Wow. This was a thread about Quincy Carter, yet like every other thread on this board, is being turned into a thread about Kurt Warner. Where does it end!?
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    Re: Union Files Grievance for Quincy Carter

    Wow. This was a thread about Quincy Carter, yet like every other thread on this board, is being turned into a thread about Kurt Warner.
    For comparitive purposes only! :redface:


    But Yo, for the record, I get your point.

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    Re: Union Files Grievance for Quincy Carter

    Quote Originally Posted by NickSeiler
    Wow. This was a thread about Quincy Carter, yet like every other thread on this board, is being turned into a thread about Kurt Warner. Where does it end!?
    Never fear, Nick. We'll get this Quincy ship righted. How about this...

    Quincy Carter, the "playoff QB"
    You don't go from being a starting, playoff quarterback in this league to someone not good enough to make the 80-man roster the next summer,"
    He ranked 43rd in QB rating among active QBs last year.
    He ranked 16th among the 17 QBs who played in all 16 games. (Only Harrington had a lower rating.)
    Of the 27 QBs who threw at least 10 TDs, his TD/Int. ratio was 25th.

    Calling Quincy Carter a playoff QB is like saying John St. Clair is a playoff tackle. Which is to say they both were on teams that went to the playoffs, and that's about it.
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