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    Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    Vick: ‘You can’t design a defense to stop me’

    By Michael Silver, Yahoo! Sports
    Sep 2

    When Michael Vick(notes) thinks back to his final pass of the 2010 season, a looping spiral toward the left corner of the end zone with 33 seconds remaining in a first-round playoff game at Lincoln Financial Field, he wishes he’d been a bit more patient.

    With his Philadelphia Eagles trailing by five points and a first-and-10 from the Green Bay Packers’ 27-yard-line, Vick dropped back and went for the win, only to watch cornerback Tramon Williams(notes) leap in front of Riley Cooper(notes) for the game-clinching interception. Had Vick checked down to Pro Bowl receiver DeSean Jackson(notes) at the 15, or tucked the ball and run, or thrown it away to live another down, Aaron Rodgers(notes) and friends might not have hoisted the Lombardi Trophy four weeks later.

    “I’m hoping I can be in that situation again,” Vick said last month when I visited the Eagles’ training camp in Bethlehem, Pa. “I’m gonna try not to make the same mistake this year.”

    I predict that, come January, Vick will once again be in position to do something special for Philly in the postseason – and this time, I believe, he’ll deliver. I felt this as I headed down to the locker rooms at The Linc in the minutes after Vick’s pass was picked eight months ago, and the slew of talented players the Eagles acquired in the days after the lockout ended did nothing to curb my enthusiasm.

    It turns out I’m not alone in thinking that the Eagles are pretty, pretty good. And while I realize that picking them to play in Super Bowl XLVI is pretty, pretty trendy, in my defense I’ve been on this bandwagon for awhile – certainly as far back as the end of the 2010 regular season, when I imprudently predicted Philly to prevail over the Pack, my preseason pick to win it all.

    Confused? Here’s all that you need to know: Contrary to semi-popular belief, I don’t get emotionally invested in my forecasts, and if they seem blatantly unimaginative, chances are I’ll talk myself into changing them. I’d rather be wrong than boring.

    As I reminded you at this time two years ago, and again in 2010, assuming that there will be substantial carryover from one NFL season to the next is a common trap. So, too, is overreacting to high-profile offseason acquisitions.

    For all of these reasons, I should be wary of the Dream Team. Yet I’m willing to risk looking like a sucker when it comes to the Eagles, and being dubbed Captain Obvious, because I’m captivated by their locker room’s ideal mix of swagger and hunger.

    This is a group of players that expect to be great, and unlike the Donovan McNabb(notes)-led Philly contenders of the previous decade, it’s not incumbent upon anyone – even the quarterback – to carry the team.

    On offense, the list of playmakers reads like a fantasy draft: Jackson, wideout Jeremy Maclin(notes), slot receiver Jason Avant(notes), talented tight end Brent Celek(notes) and underrated halfback and emerging star LeSean (Shady) McCoy. Throw in recent pickups Steve Smith and Ronnie Brown(notes), and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg is going to have a lot of fun drawing up plays on the ol’ greaseboard.

    Then there’s Vick, who just signed a reported $100 million contract (it’s more like a five-year, $80 million deal for you cap-ologists out there) to continue one of the more stunning resurrection stories in professional sports history.

    Though it took losing everything, including his freedom, for Vick to dedicate himself to his craft, he’s now parlaying his unfathomable ability and a fortuitous partnership with Eagles coach Andy Reid into a space-age quarterbacking clinic.

    When Vick had his one truly shaky performance of 2010, in a 24-14 defeat to the Minnesota Vikings on a strange Tuesday night at The Linc last December, critics seized upon his ineffectiveness in the face of the Vikes’ repeated blitzes as a Kryptonite equivalent. Last month, Reid acknowledged that Vick wasn’t as proficient against the blitz as he could have been in his first year as a starter since 2006, but said the quarterback spent the offseason working on that weakness.

    “Now he’s got it,” Reid insisted. “People can say there’s a way to stop Michael Vick, but this is a team sport. You’ve got this beautiful mind of Marty’s and you’ve got to deal with what he’s gonna throw at you, and there are all these other players you have to defend. You can say you’re gonna stop Michael Vick, but you’ve got to stop the whole group.”

    Vick’s response: “I’ve been hearing that for years. You can’t design a defense to stop me, especially not on this team. We have so many weapons, and some teams have tried to make that their primary focus. That’s when we run up the score.”

    As for the notion that defenses might try to mitigate his running ability by using a player as a spy who patrols the line of scrimmage, Vick was similarly dismissive: “I don’t even notice a spy now. The last spy I saw was versus Jacksonville last year. DeSean ran a shallow cross right past him and scored. LeShon, DeSean – those guys will beat the spy. Maybe it used to be an option before, but I’m not that guy anymore. I’m getting the ball out.”

    When Vick gets the ball in Jackson’s hands, hearts start racing as rapidly as the receiver changes directions, and with good reason. The 5-foot-10, 175-pound blur averaged 22.5 yards per catch last season and, assuming he and the Eagles can work out a lucrative contract extension, has a chance to be Jerry Rice to Vick’s Steve Young for years to come.

    Ask Jackson about the way Philly’s 2010 season ended, and he doesn’t talk about the fact that he flashed open at the 15 before Vick went up top for Cooper. Instead, he remembers what happened three plays earlier at the start of the Eagles’ drive: With the ball at the Philly 34, Jackson caught a short pass over the middle, slipped a pair of would-be tacklers and raced into the open field. It looked like Jackson might score until linebacker Desmond Bishop(notes) tripped him up at the Green Bay 38 with a lunging leg tackle.

    “I wish I would’ve been able to kick through that tackle,” Jackson said. “It pisses me off that Desmond Bishop got me on that play – a guy I played with at Cal. Over the offseason he told me, ‘Hey, I got you.’ I said, ‘Oh man, you were so lucky.’ But I know I have to get stronger so I can run through stuff like that.”

    I think the Eagles will fight through all sorts of potential obstacles – the temptation to buy into their own hype; the potential for collapsing under the weight of expectations, a la the 2010 Dallas Cowboys; the adjustment to a new defensive scheme; the recent upheaval on the offensive line.

    Building upon the glimpses of greatness that they gave us last season, as in last December’s incredible road comeback victory over the New York Giants, the Eagles will position themselves for another postseason run. This time, needing a clutch play to beat a championship-caliber rival, Vick will calmly assess his options and make the right decision.


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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    So when is the Lombardi handing ceremony? At least we don't have to play the season opener, since they already won, better just rest everyone for the next week.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    Yeah, Mikey, you're so unstoppable, you must have a fistful of SB rings by now, right? No? Well, at least, you must have one of the top career QB ratings among active quarterbacks then surely? Er, 80.2 you say? Okay, well, some guys get off to a slow start. Look at our guy Sam--he only had a 76.5 rating while throwing for 3,512 yards as a rookie. Oh, so you've never thrown for that many yards in a season either? Man, you're right. There is no defense that will stop you from running your mouth.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    So much for the humble Vick, especially talking big for a team that's struggling to beat teams with good defenses.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    I wonder if Spags can design a defense to stop him? I am pretty sure he can since he stopped a lot better quarterbacks than vick. I really think we are going to have him running for his life.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    The Steelers seemed to stop him pretty well in the preseason... three INTs wasn't it?
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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    I hope Chris Long injures his jaw bone so he'll stop running his mouth.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    Vick’s response: “I’ve been hearing that for years. You can’t design a defense to stop me, especially not on this team. We have so many weapons, and some teams have tried to make that their primary focus. That’s when we run up the score.”
    This has Rams bulletin board written all over it.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    Last see, where should I start here? Last season vs Green Bay in the Playoffs. While we were not playing our best football, had our field goal kicker made the two field goals he attempted, we would have beat them. It was a very good game and unfortunately we didn't monopolize on our opportunity. Oh well, it was a great finish to what was supposed to be a building year for us.

    This year, I think that a lot of you may be very surprised by what will happen in the regular season. If you look back at preseason games, the Eagles really haven't shown or done anything great over the years, however, come the beginning of the season, it's an all new game. Let me just remind of the hype you all were spewing a few years back when you played Philadelphia at the Linc... Does 38 - 3 ring a bell.

    Good Luck to your team on Sunday fellas. Win or lose we will still all be fans of our respective teams.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    Quote Originally Posted by PA_gal_in_OK View Post
    Let me just remind of the hype you all were spewing a few years back when you played Philadelphia at the Linc... Does 38 - 3 ring a bell.
    This ones at the Ed, and Tye Hill won't be on the field to exploit. If you're expecting the 2008 Linehan led Rams, you're in for a surprise.

    Looking forward to seeing you after the game Lynn.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    These Eagle fans are probably feeling a little disrespected. The Rams have done nothing as of yet, except look fairly good in the pre-season.? It must annoy the Eagle fans something shocking after all the money they have spent, that the Rams are being picked to beat them by a lot of pundits. I bet the Eagle fans have only ever heard of Bradford and Jackson. So until the Rams actually PROVE something this year, we are always going to be classed as an easy win to these idiot Eagle fans, who just cannot see past their own nose.?
    Win, lose or draw. I feel these Philly fans will realize their is some good players in the Lou after this game.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    This ones at the Ed, and Tye Hill won't be on the field to exploit. If you're expecting the 2008 Linehan led Rams, you're in for a surprise.

    Looking forward to seeing you after the game Lynn.
    Mike, all I am saying is that a lot of you are judging how the Eagles are going to play based on Preseason. Preseason really is nothing to base how the season will go off of since they are "Trying" different looks, schemes, players, etc. I mean really. Each year Detroit looks good in preseason but yet when the season comes, they fall to the basement. I think that the Eagles are being underestimated here or else your fan base is really that delusional to underestimate ANY opponent.
    We will see you before the game, and probably not after since we are leaving to come home. ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by GROUND DOG 39 View Post
    These Eagle fans are probably feeling a little disrespected. The Rams have done nothing as of yet, except look fairly good in the pre-season.? It must annoy the Eagle fans something shocking after all the money they have spent, that the Rams are being picked to beat them by a lot of pundits. I bet the Eagle fans have only ever heard of Bradford and Jackson. So until the Rams actually PROVE something this year, we are always going to be classed as an easy win to these idiot Eagle fans, who just cannot see past their own nose.?
    Win, lose or draw. I feel these Philly fans will realize their is some good players in the Lou after this game.?
    Now this is a stupid post. If it is one thing that Philly fans don't do is underestimate anyone. I have been an Eagles fan all my life. I give credit where credit is due. I think Bradford is an EXCELLENT QB, Jackson a great RB, and even like Amendola. However, don't be hating on the Eagles either. 1. We are still way under cap and have been waiting for a moment to spend our money... remember the Eagles FO have been very cheap over the past several years. Normally this is NOT the way they conduct business but we are still in our rebuilding mode without missing a beat. 2. If you think that preseason games performance means that this is how a team will play all season, you are truly a lost soul. Preseason games mean nothing. It is an opportunity to evaluate talent and plays. 3. I don't know what NFL Picks you have been looking at but not so many are picking the Rams to win, although that **** is just a matter of luck anyway. No one knows or can predict how a team will perform. You should know the adage "On any given Sunday."

    Well I guess that is all I have for now.. Until later... BYE and GO EAGLES!

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    Quote Originally Posted by PA_gal_in_OK View Post
    Mike, all I am saying is that a lot of you are judging how the Eagles are going to play based on Preseason. Preseason really is nothing to base how the season will go off of since they are "Trying" different looks, schemes, players, etc. I mean really. Each year Detroit looks good in preseason but yet when the season comes, they fall to the basement. I think that the Eagles are being underestimated here or else your fan base is really that delusional to underestimate ANY opponent.
    We will see you before the game, and probably not after since we are leaving to come home. ;-)


    Now this is a stupid post. If it is one thing that Philly fans don't do is underestimate anyone. I have been an Eagles fan all my life. I give credit where credit is due. I think Bradford is an EXCELLENT QB, Jackson a great RB, and even like Amendola. However, don't be hating on the Eagles either. 1. We are still way under cap and have been waiting for a moment to spend our money... remember the Eagles FO have been very cheap over the past several years. Normally this is NOT the way they conduct business but we are still in our rebuilding mode without missing a beat. 2. If you think that preseason games performance means that this is how a team will play all season, you are truly a lost soul. Preseason games mean nothing. It is an opportunity to evaluate talent and plays. 3. I don't know what NFL Picks you have been looking at but not so many are picking the Rams to win, although that **** is just a matter of luck anyway. No one knows or can predict how a team will perform. You should know the adage "On any given Sunday."

    Well I guess that is all I have for now.. Until later... BYE and GO EAGLES!
    I think some of your comments have been equally silly. The shoulda/woulda/coulda about the GB game, for a start. A few plays here or there almost always determine games. There are plenty of thoroughly obnoxious Philly fans as there are anywhere but Eagles fans in particular have a habit of talking a lot of trash in my experience, inc about their own players. Not sayin' you are one of them but you can't counter a generalization with another one.
    The results of pre-season games mean nothing but not having Maclin or deSean on the field through most of a shortened off-season can't help. And that O-line is a hot mess. It's not like you have Tra Thomas and Runyon waiting in the wings, is it ? Nor would I be brimming with confidence to see my MLB being rotated out on passing downs even in a pre-season game.

    There is certainly still a talent gap between the two teams but there are only a handful of players left from that '08 disaster.

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    Re: Vick: 'You Can't Design A Defense To Stop Me'

    Quote Originally Posted by PA_gal_in_OK View Post
    Mike, all I am saying is that a lot of you are judging how the Eagles are going to play based on Preseason. Preseason really is nothing to base how the season will go off of since they are "Trying" different looks, schemes, players, etc. I mean really. Each year Detroit looks good in preseason but yet when the season comes, they fall to the basement. I think that the Eagles are being underestimated here or else your fan base is really that delusional to underestimate ANY opponent.
    We will see you before the game, and probably not after since we are leaving to come home. ;-)


    Now this is a stupid post. If it is one thing that Philly fans don't do is underestimate anyone. I have been an Eagles fan all my life. I give credit where credit is due. I think Bradford is an EXCELLENT QB, Jackson a great RB, and even like Amendola. However, don't be hating on the Eagles either. 1. We are still way under cap and have been waiting for a moment to spend our money... remember the Eagles FO have been very cheap over the past several years. Normally this is NOT the way they conduct business but we are still in our rebuilding mode without missing a beat. 2. If you think that preseason games performance means that this is how a team will play all season, you are truly a lost soul. Preseason games mean nothing. It is an opportunity to evaluate talent and plays. 3. I don't know what NFL Picks you have been looking at but not so many are picking the Rams to win, although that **** is just a matter of luck anyway. No one knows or can predict how a team will perform. You should know the adage "On any given Sunday."

    Well I guess that is all I have for now.. Until later... BYE and GO EAGLES!
    Ill hold my hands up here Oklahoma, I should'nt be making assumptions about Philly fans.! I was just putting an observation into writing, that's all. I was speaking in general terms, no need to justify yourself to me. I meant people, not pundits who are picking the Rams to win, my bad. Although I can remember 3 pundits who have gone with the Rams.!
    You say my post was stupid, just read it AGAIN slowly and then look at YOUR arguments. Especially your 2nd point and the one about Bradford, Jackson and EVEN Amendola. Funny, you shot yourself in the foot twice there. After Sunday you might be able to name 4 Ram players, if you concentrate.? Point 3 is a cracker as well, funny, thanks for coming.

    I think the word Goldfish comes to mind.! If I were you I would stick to knitting. Only Joking Sweety. Good Luck Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GROUND DOG 39 View Post
    Ill hold my hands up here Oklahoma, I should'nt be making assumptions about Philly fans.! I was just putting an observation into writing, that's all. I was speaking in general terms, no need to justify yourself to me. I meant people, not pundits who are picking the Rams to win, my bad. Although I can remember 3 pundits who have gone with the Rams.!
    You say my post was stupid, just read it AGAIN slowly and then look at YOUR arguments. Especially your 2nd point and the one about Bradford, Jackson and EVEN Amendola. Funny, you shot yourself in the foot twice there. After Sunday you might be able to name 4 Ram players, if you concentrate.? Point 3 is a cracker as well, funny, thanks for coming.

    I think the word Goldfish comes to mind.! If I were you I would stick to knitting. Only Joking Sweety. Good Luck Sunday.
    I'm sorry, let say I know more people on your team.. I was being sarcastic. I mean since we Eagles Fans don't know any other players.. I mean like Laurenitis (sp?) or Chris Long or Sims Walker, Josh Brown and wait,,,, maybe even another former Eagle... Quinten Mikell..... or any of those players... I mean Hell I'm a woman, what do I know about football right?

    Look seriously, I'm married to a Rams fan, AlphaRam, how could I not know any of the players... LMFAO!!!! Trust me, you can ask many people on this board about how much I know about the Rams players and trust me when I say, they can verify I know who the hell they are. The fact of the matter is, though, that this team that you have now, is not the elite team of the Greatest show on Turf, with holt, bruce, or Faulk.

    Oh, and since I am told to be knitting, why don't you grow a real set and not assume that a woman who is a fan of another team doesn't know about players from other teams. ;-) OK SWEETY??????????

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