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    Warner bashed by Barlow

    Mind the Source (Pro Football Talk) but...

    Warner Bashing on "Daily Rumor Mill"

    ***** RB Kevan Barlow is our kind of guy; he found a way to insult not one,
    but two people with this remark regarding Adam Sandler's ability to play the
    part of a football dude in The Longest Yard: "He's an actor, not an athlete.
    I didn't buy him as a quarterback. . . . He's just so stiff, especially when
    he drops back to pass. Really stiff. He reminds me of Kurt Warner."


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    Re: Warner bashed by Barlow

    Barlow doesn't play nicely with others.

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    Re: Warner bashed by Barlow

    No, he did the same thing to his own team. I forgot, how much of a football presence did they have last year or expect to have this year? Oh, that's right. Cellar Dwellers...
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    Re: Warner bashed by Barlow

    No need to start a new thread. Here is what KFFL, a fantasy football league, just sent out about KW:

    June 3, 2004 was a new beginning for QB Kurt Warner when he signed a deal with the New York Giants after losing his starting job with the St. Louis Rams to QB Marc Bulger. What could have been a two-year deal in New York ended up with Warner signing a one-year, $4 million deal with the Arizona Cardinals as an unrestricted free agent shortly after the 2004 season.

    The acquisition of Warner gives the Cardinals talent and a little more consistency at the quarterback role. This opportunity gives Warner another chance to rekindle his career and to help QB Josh McCown develop into a more complete quarterback. Warner came into Arizona with the desire to start and was recently named the starter by head coach Dennis Green.

    Warner wanted a longer agreement, preferably for four years, with the Cardinals and settled for a one-year deal. This year will either launch Warner into the elite quarterback spotlight once again or could prove to be the beginning of a long road to retirement.

    Positives: Warner has the resume of a champion. He is a two-time league MVP and led the St. Louis Rams to two Super Bowls in 1999 and 2001. With the knowledge and experience that Warner possesses he should be primed for a big season after sitting the second half of last season and appears to finally be healthy.

    Re-entering the NFC West will also be motivation to show the Rams that he still is the quarterback he once was when he led the team to multiple championship games. Here are Warner's stats for the last five years.

    Table: Kurt Warner - Statistics - 2000-04 Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int Rate
    2000 STL 11 11 347 235 67.7 3429 9.88 85 21 18 98.3
    2001 STL 16 16 546 375 68.7 4830 8.85 65 36 22 101.4
    2002 STL 7 6 220 144 65.5 1431 6.50 43 3 11 67.4
    2003 STL 2 1 65 38 58.5 365 5.62 37 1 1 72.9
    2004 NYG 10 9 277 174 62.8 2054 7.42 62 6 4 86.5


    Warner's stats compared to McCown's stats over the past five years.

    Table: Josh McCown - Statistics - 2002-04 Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int Rate
    2002 ARZ 2 0 18 7 38.9 66 3.67 26 0 2 10.2
    2003 ARZ 8 3 166 95 57.2 1018 6.13 60 5 6 70.3
    2004 ARZ 14 13 408 233 57.1 2511 6.15 48 11 10 74.1


    In 2004 Warner was benched in favor of QB Eli Manning, limiting his number of starts. Even with his limited play in 2004, Warner still managed his best quarterback rating since 2001 when he posted a rating of 101.4 and threw for 36 touchdowns. Based on 2004 statistics, Warner is a clear-cut upgrade over McCown for the Cardinals. Health will be the deciding factor for a successful campaign for the Cardinals. If Warner plays to his anticipated healthy level, in addition to his supporting cast of WRs Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald and RB J.J. Arrington remaining healthy, 2005 could be a big year for the Cardinals.

    Negatives: Nagging injuries have limited Warner over the past few years. Even though it appeared that Warner overcame his finger injury based on his performance in 2004, the Cardinals may try to accelerate McCown's education in case Warner gets hurt again.

    While being replaced twice within two seasons it is important for Warner to keep his confidence. After a 5-2 start with the Giants it appeared that Warner was back to form only to be benched in favor of a developing Manning. This may have been a huge blow to Warner mentally because just a year prior he was the victim of the same demotion to Bulger with the Rams.

    Warner believes he can start again in the league; however, there is little optimism outside of Arizona that he will rebound to his old style. It will take a little more than a new stadium and uniforms to kick-start Warner into his MVP form.

    Summary: The Cardinals did make a good move in signing Warner and making him their starting quarterback for 2005. After a rollercoaster ride of promotions and demotions during the past two seasons, Warner has a track record of good performance that will not only help the Cardinals this season but McCown in his continuous development.

    If Warner can stay healthy it is possible that he will make an impact in the weak NFC West division giving the Seattle Seahawks and St. Louis a battle for the division title. If Warner is on beat expect the Cardinals to sneak up on a few teams and possibly post a winning season.

    From a fantasy angle, Warner is capable of posting near No. 1 quarterback numbers, though he has far too many roadblocks in the way to overcome. For now, he should be best viewed as a weaker No. 2 fantasy passer for your team. He could post surprising numbers and make you look like a genius, or you may get laughed at for “buying into the hype.” At any rate, Warner has a lot of upside for this year, but it comes with measurable risk.
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