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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

    And Ruth never played against the best so I guess they're all even.


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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

    And Ruth never played against the best so I guess they're all even.
    Yeah all those players sucked back then huh? Ridiculous comment.
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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortuninerhater
    And Ruth never played against the best so I guess they're all even.
    I'd have to disagree with that. Walter Johnson, Lefty Grove, Red Faber, Eddie Rommel.....plenty of talented pitchers faced Ruth, and did so from a mound that was half a foot higher than today.
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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison
    I'd have to disagree with that. Walter Johnson, Lefty Grove, Red Faber, Eddie Rommel.....plenty of talented pitchers faced Ruth, and did so from a mound that was half a foot higher than today.
    Good point HUb. Not to mention that Ruth faced strong pitchers every game with the talent pool concentrated to just 8 teams in the Americam League.

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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

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    'd have to disagree with that. Walter Johnson, Lefty Grove, Red Faber, Eddie Rommel.....plenty of talented pitchers faced Ruth, and did so from a mound that was half a foot higher than today.
    A very good point Hub. I do not remember the exact #'s but when the mound was lowered many yrs later, I believe in the early 60's, the avg. era went up over a run! That is one (of many) reason why pitchers such as Randy Johnson are so dominant. The fans would hate if the mound was raised even an inch as it would greatly decrease scoring.

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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

    Some of the greatest pitchers in the world were excluded from the game during Babe's era, making it impossible for him to have faced the best.

    My statement is only ridiculous to those ignorant of the facts.
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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortuninerhater
    Some of the greatest pitchers in the world were excluded from the game during Babe's era, making it impossible for him to have faced the best.

    My statement is only ridiculous to those ignorant of the facts.
    Assuming your talking about the Negro League pitchers, no, he didn't face any of them....sadly but obviously. However, when looking at the fact as pointed out by Mike, that there were only 8 teams in the league instead of the 14 there are today, it's easy to see the concentration of talented pitchers he faced is no less than what Bonds faced in his career.

    It would have been nice if Ruth had faced black pitchers as well as white pitchers, but there's nothing to show that pitching talent was at a higher concentration in the Negro League.

    Ignorant of the facts??? A little too bold of a statement, don't you think?
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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

    Quote Originally Posted by HUbison
    Assuming your talking about the Negro League pitchers, no, he didn't face any of them....sadly but obviously. However, when looking at the fact as pointed out by Mike, that there were only 8 teams in the league instead of the 14 there are today, it's easy to see the concentration of talented pitchers he faced is no less than what Bonds faced in his career.

    It would have been nice if Ruth had faced black pitchers as well as white pitchers, but there's nothing to show that pitching talent was at a higher concentration in the Negro League.

    Ignorant of the facts??? A little too bold of a statement, don't you think?

    Maybe a little strong for some, but "bold" is what you'll get from me.

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    Re: Barry Bonds Passes Babe Ruth With Home Run Number 715

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortuninerhater
    Maybe a little strong for some, but "bold" is what you'll get from me.
    And as I've shown here, adroit, diplomatic and understated is what you'll get from me.
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