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View Poll Results: Who's to blame for the demise of USA basketball?
Nobody. The world has just caught up to the US. 0 0%
The international rules, which are vastly different from NBA hoops. 0 0%
Nike, and every other marketer that put a premium on dunking and nothing else. 1 16.67%
Shaq, Kobe, T-Mac and all the other top players who won't play. 1 16.67%
Nobody. Great players (who don't play together) just are not comparable to good teams (who do). 3 50.00%
The players. They can win but they're lazy and unmotivated. 1 16.67%
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USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

The USA olympic basketball team lost its opener to Puerto Rico by 19 points and seems on the verge of failing to win for the first time since the pros started playing.

Who's to blame?
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

I voted for the "good teams" vs. "great players" thing, but really it could be all of the above.
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

It can almost come back to AAU play.
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

Anyone of those reasons is a good choice. I do think the world has caught up to us for the specific reason that American players don't have the skill they once had. Too much dunking, not enough pure shooting and a VERY low premium on defense.

I don't think laziness is as much a reason because for the most part, these guys wanted to play there, especially 'melo who practically begged to get on the team.

I wish they would go back to having college ballers, more interesting and more pure.

It's kind of interesting too because Americans seem to not care - if we win we're supposed to, if we lose it's an embarassment.
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

I went with the players vs. a team idea, but from everything I have heard, there is more to it. I think the coaches that selected the team had something to do with it as they didn't fill the positions on the team, they just picked a bunch of big named players. No center and no shooting guard. Hard to win without a dominant big man and an outside threat...
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

I believe it's most the fact that our players have been together for 1+ month and the rest of the teams have been together for years. Having said that, if the actual best american players in the NBA played, they would go unbeaten, IMO.
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

I picked the players vs. the team, but I believe its more of the US basketball committee who picked this team. They did not pick a team that could be successful in the international game. And why can't there be tryouts? In the days of the college players tryouts were held. I say we go back to having tryouts and pick a team that fits the international game; even if it means that some of our best players are at home.
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

I do think that the right players would win easily.


Here's my unstoppable dream team of current NBA players:

C: Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan
PF: Kevin Garnett, Ben Wallace, Jermain O'Neal
SF: Tracy McGrady, Rip Hamilton, Ron Artest
SG: Kobe Bryant, Ray Allen
PG: Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby

Note that there is only one player (Duncan) from the actual team.
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

Avenger, here's another note for your post:

Look there are outside shooters on this team compared to none on the actual team.
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Re: USA Basketball: Who's To Blame?

The players of course!!


Maybe they're just not that good?


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