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    1rst round DL since 95

    How many 1rst round defensive lineman have we drafted since 1995.?
    How many times have we heard that THIS guy is going to make a difference?
    How many years have we waited for THIS guy to develope into the pick we've spent on him?

    I know a new HC (and a good one IMO)
    I know a new GM (also a good one IMO)

    But as fans, we have put ALOT of hope into that D line, and I for one am ready to get a QB. Yes he has question marks about his durability, and the spread offense he comes from, but his accuracy,quick release and ability to get the ball out quickly, certainly give me more hope than another tackler.

    I know Suh COULD be more than just another tackler but what if he isnt.What if we have to wait 3-4 years for him to grow into the roll? Then we would have wasted ANOTHER 1rst round pick on a position that our new HC should be able to coach up.

    With a 1rst OA pick at the QB position I think after the first year we will KNOW what we have and if we've done our homework I think we could be in a much better position.

    Its just surprising to me that with ALL we have invested in the Dline already there are guys still wanting to put ANOTHER 1rst round pick there.

    Yes its still a hole but I think our coach will get more out of them in his 2nd year.


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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    The reason people want to put another first round pick on the DL is because they havent worked out so far, so we have a need along the DL

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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    You can play the what if game all day long it's just wasted energy.

    How many times have we heard that THIS guy is going to make a difference?

    I believe most of them were drafted to fill a need but did not come close to having the hype as Suh.

    To say the Rams should not draft the best player available because in the past they selected some defensive lineman who did not work out. If the Rams become cautious like that and focus only on the past then I guess we we better get use to drafting at the top every year.

    Go Rams

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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    Quote Originally Posted by dave626 View Post
    How many 1rst round defensive lineman have we drafted since 1995.?
    How many times have we heard that THIS guy is going to make a difference?
    How many years have we waited for THIS guy to develope into the pick we've spent on him?

    I know a new HC (and a good one IMO)
    I know a new GM (also a good one IMO)

    But as fans, we have put ALOT of hope into that D line, and I for one am ready to get a QB. Yes he has question marks about his durability, and the spread offense he comes from, but his accuracy,quick release and ability to get the ball out quickly, certainly give me more hope than another tackler.

    I know Suh COULD be more than just another tackler but what if he isnt.What if we have to wait 3-4 years for him to grow into the roll? Then we would have wasted ANOTHER 1rst round pick on a position that our new HC should be able to coach up.

    With a 1rst OA pick at the QB position I think after the first year we will KNOW what we have and if we've done our homework I think we could be in a much better position.

    Its just surprising to me that with ALL we have invested in the Dline already there are guys still wanting to put ANOTHER 1rst round pick there.

    Yes its still a hole but I think our coach will get more out of them in his 2nd year.
    Agreed. Nevermind caution, spags SHOULD help the guys we have already and make them better, after all he is supposed to be a dline specialist.

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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    This has to be my least favorite argument out there. It makes no sense what so ever.

    Just because Jimmy Kennedy, Damione Lewis, Ryan Pickett, and Adam Carriker haven't lived up to expectations that means neither will Suh?

    I'm just not connecting the dots.

    That being said you did make some good points, I too am ready to draft our QB, but thats not because Suh won't live up to his expectations, its because we desperately need to move on and make a new idenitity for our Rams.

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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Mob 71 View Post
    Just because Jimmy Kennedy, Damione Lewis, Ryan Pickett, and Adam Carriker haven't lived up to expectations that means neither will Suh?
    It doesn't mean Suh will be less than spectacular but it does show that he does bring risk.

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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    Quote Originally Posted by RebelYell View Post
    It doesn't mean Suh will be less than spectacular but it does show that he does bring risk.

    Suh brings little risk, Bradford brings a lot. Suh in my mind is the safest pick in the draft.

    Not only is Bradford a QB(that should be enough for the risk factor) he had a serious injury only to make his risk factor a lot higher.

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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    all history of failings at any position means is the need to re-address the position.

    if the Lions were frightened off taking a wideout by past failings then they wouldnt have the beast that is Megatron..a.k.a Calvin Johnson.

    all that being said..i agree we should take Bradford..just dont agree with the reasons that youve given.

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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    Quote Originally Posted by dave626 View Post
    How many 1rst round defensive lineman have we drafted since 1995.?
    How many times have we heard that THIS guy is going to make a difference?
    How many years have we waited for THIS guy to develope into the pick we've spent on him?

    I know a new HC (and a good one IMO)
    I know a new GM (also a good one IMO)

    But as fans, we have put ALOT of hope into that D line, and I for one am ready to get a QB. Yes he has question marks about his durability, and the spread offense he comes from, but his accuracy,quick release and ability to get the ball out quickly, certainly give me more hope than another tackler.

    I know Suh COULD be more than just another tackler but what if he isnt.What if we have to wait 3-4 years for him to grow into the roll? Then we would have wasted ANOTHER 1rst round pick on a position that our new HC should be able to coach up.

    With a 1rst OA pick at the QB position I think after the first year we will KNOW what we have and if we've done our homework I think we could be in a much better position.

    Its just surprising to me that with ALL we have invested in the Dline already there are guys still wanting to put ANOTHER 1rst round pick there.

    Yes its still a hole but I think our coach will get more out of them in his 2nd year.
    I don't think the Rams srewed up in drafting Ryan Pickett! The Rams screwed up by not resigning him! The Rams spent all the cap money on Offence for a long time.

    The Rams drafting AC was not a smart move good player but dosen't fit the 4-3 system Rams run. Could possibly develope into a good DT.

    The old front office is the reason for the problems Rams have now.
    If Rams resigned Pickett. The Rams wouldn't had to use number one picks on Kennedy or AC.

    Pickett is still playing strong in Green Bay.

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    Re: 1rst round DL since 95

    Quote Originally Posted by RebelYell View Post
    It doesn't mean Suh will be less than spectacular but it does show that he does bring risk.
    There is certainly no denying that. EVERY player carries a risk.


    The risk for Suh is undoubtedly the lowest in recent memory, but no one should ever say a player is a can't miss. Cause stuff happens.

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    "Devaney and Spags were not here prior to 2008. Neither were most of their staff. But there are those few helmet clad individuals among us who keep insisting that the “Rams” keep picking DL’s and the “pattern” shows that we should not do so anymore. For the last time, the Rams are a completely different team with a completely different front office and coaching staff so please do not keep applying past history to recent events."
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