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    2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    2009 Mock Draft
    1 Detriot Lions
    Needs: qb, cb, ol
    FA Acquisitions: CB Philip Buchanon; DT Grady Jackson; WR Bryant Johnson; CB Eric King; OL Daniel Loper; RB Maurice Morris; LB Cody Spencer
    FA Losses: CB Leigh Bodden; QB Jon Kitna (t); FB Moran Norris; QB Dan Orlovsky;
    Pick: QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia

    2 St. Louis Rams
    Needs: ot, cb, mlb
    FA Acquisitions: DB Ron Bartell; C Jason Brown; FS James Butler
    FA Losses: C Brett Romberg
    Pick: OT Jason Smith, Baylor

    3 Kansas City Chiefs
    Needs: de, lb,ol
    FA Acquisitions: QB Matt Cassel, CB Travis Daniels; S Jon McGraw; LB Mike Vrabel; LB Darrell Robertson
    FA Losses: QB Damon Huard
    Pick: OLB Adam Curry, Wake Forrest


    4 Seattle Seahawks
    Needs: dt, wr, ot
    FA Acquisitions: DT Colin Cole; WR TJ Houshmandzadeh;
    FA Losses: DT Rocky Bernard; RB Maurice Morris;
    Pick: DT BJ Raji, Boston College

    5 Cleveland Browns
    Needs: lb, cb, te
    FA Acquisitions: S Abram Elam; DT CJ Mosley; TE Robert Royal
    FA Losses: CB Travis Daniels; LB Andra Davis; FS Sean Jones
    Pick: DE Brian Okrapo, Texas

    6 Cincinnati Bengals
    Needs: ot, c, dt
    FA Acquisitions: WR Laveranues Coles; QB JT O’Sullivan; CB Hank Poteat
    FA Losses: OT Stacy Andrews; QB Ryan Fitzpatrick; WR TJ Houshmandzadeh; WR Marcus Maxwell
    Pick: OT Michael Oher, Ole Miss

    7 Oakland Raiders
    Needs: wr, ot, dl
    FA Acquisitions: OT Eric Piers
    FA Losses: S Rashad Baker; C Jake Grove;
    Pick: WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech

    8 Jacksonville Jaguars
    Needs: ot, wr, ol
    FA Acquisitions: S Sean Considine; OT Tra Thomas
    FA Losses: LB Mike Peterson; S Gerad Sensabaugh; RB Fred Taylor
    Pick: ILB Rey Maualuga, USC

    9 Green Bay Packers
    Needs: olb, ot, cb
    FA Acquisitions: S Anthony Smith
    FA Losses: DT Colin Cole
    Pick: CB Malcom Jenkins

    10 San Francisco *****
    Needs: ot, qb, lb(o)
    FA Acquisitions: DE Demetric Evans; QB Damon Huard; WR Brandon Jones; FB Moran Norris;
    FA Losses: LB Tully Banta-Cain; DT Ronald Fields; WR Bryant Johnson; S Keith Lewis; QB JT O’Sullivan;
    Pick: QB Matt Sanchez, USC

    11 Buffalo Bills
    Needs: te, de, ol
    FA Acquisitions: qb Ryan Fitzpatrick; C Geoff Hangartner; WR Terrell Owens
    FA Losses: OG Derrick Dockery; CB Jabari Greer; TE Robert Royal
    Pick: DE Everett Brown, Florida State

    12 Denver Broncos
    Needs: dt, lb, db
    FA Acquisitions: RB JJ Arrington; RB Correll Buckhalter; LB Andra Davis; S Brian Dawkins; DT Ronald Fields; WR Jabbar Gaffney; CB Andre’ Goodman; S Renaldo Hill; RB Lamont Jordan; DT Darrell Reid; QB Chris Simms
    FA Losses: LB Niko Koutouvides; OT Erik Pears;
    Pick: DT Peria Jerry, Ole Miss

    13 Washington Redskins
    Needs: ol, olb, de
    FA Acquisitions: OG Derrick Dockery; DT Albert Haynesworth
    FA Losses: DE Demetric Evans; CB Shawn Springs
    Pick: OT Andre Smith, Alabama

    14 New Orleans Saints
    Needs: s, olb, cb
    FA Acquisitions: FB Heath Evans; CB Jabari Greer
    FA Losses: S Josh Bullocks
    Pick: CB Vontae Davis, Illinois

    15 Houston Texans
    Needs: s, olb, rb
    FA Acquisitions: QB Dan orlovsky; DE Antonio Smith;
    FA Losses: S CC Brown;
    Pick: RB Chris Wells, Georgia

    16 San Diego Chargers
    Needs: ol, de, ilb
    FA Acquisitions: LB Ken Burnett
    FA Losses: DE Igor Olshansky
    Pick: OLB Brian Cushing, USC

    17 New York Jets
    Needs: qb, wr, s
    FA Acquisitions: LB Larry Izzo; S Jim Leonhard; LB Bart Scott
    FA Losses: TE Chris Baker; WR Laveranues Coles; S Abram Elam; DT CJ Mosley; PK Mike Nugent; CB Hank Poteat; LB Cody Spencer
    Pick: LB James Laurinitis, Ohio State

    18 Chicago Bears
    Needs: wr, ol, de
    FA Acquisitions: S Josh Bullocks; OT Frank Omiyale
    FA Losses: No Losses
    Pick: WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri

    19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Needs: olb, wr, dl
    FA Acquisitions: LB Niko Koutouvides; PK Mike Nugent; RB Derrick Ward
    FA Losses: CB Phillip Buchanon; DT Jovan Haye;
    Pick: CB Alponso Smith, Wake Forest

    20 Detroit Lions (from Dallas)
    Needs: qb, cb, ol
    FA Acquisitions: CB Philip Buchanon; DT Grady Jackson; WR Bryant Johnson; CB Eric King; OL Daniel Loper; RB Maurice Morris; LB Cody Spencer
    FA Losses: CB Leigh Bodden; QB Jon Kitna (t); FB Moran Norris; QB Dan Orlovsky;
    Pick: OT Eugene Monroe, Virginia

    21 Philadelphia Eagles
    Needs: te, s, rb
    FA Acquisitions: OT Stacy Andrews; S Rashad Baker; FS Sean Jones
    FA Losses: FA Losses: RB Correll Buckhalter; S Sean Considine; S Brian Dawkins; OT Tra Thomas
    Pick: TE Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State

    22 Minnesota Vikings
    Needs: rt, cb, dl
    FA Acquisitions: No Free Agent Acquisitions
    FA Losses: C Matt Birk;
    Pick: RT Duke Robinson, Oklahoma

    23 New England Patriots
    Needs: db, lb, ot
    FA Acquisitions: TE Chris Baker; LB Tully Banta-Cain; CB Leigh Bodden; WR Gregg Lewis; CB Shawn Springs; RB Fred Taylor
    FA Losses: QB Matt Cassel; FB Heath Evans; WR Jabbar Gaffney; LB Larry Izzo; RB Lamont Jordan; LB Darrell Robertson;
    Pick: ILB/OLB Clint Sintim, Virginia

    24 Atlanta Falcons
    Needs: dl, olb, s
    FA Acquisitions: LB Mike Peterson; C Brett Romberg;
    FA Losses: LB Michael Boley; LB Keith Brooking; CB Dominique Foxworth; DT Grady Jackson
    Pick: DT Tyson Jackson, LSU

    25 Miami Dolphins
    Needs: wr, olb, cb
    FA Acquisitions: G Joe Berger; C Jake Grove; S Gibril Wilson
    FA Losses: CB Andre’ Goodman; S Renaldo Hill
    Pick: WR Darrius Beywood-Hey, Maryland

    26 Baltimore Ravens
    Needs: te, de, ol
    FA Acquisitions: C Matt Birk; CB Dominique Foxworth; WR Marcus Maxwell;
    FA Losses: C Jason Brown; S Jim Leonhard; LB Bart Scott
    Pick: ILB Darry Beckwith, LSU

    27 Indianapolis Colts
    Needs: dt, wr, db
    FA Acquisitions: No Free Agent Acquisitions
    FA Losses: DT Darrell Reid
    Pick: DT Evander Hood, Missouri

    28 Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina)
    Needs: te, s, rb
    FA Acquisitions: OT Stacy Andrews; S Rashad Baker; FS Sean Jones
    FA Losses: RB Correll Buckhalter; S Sean Considine; S Brian Dawkins; OT Tra Thomas
    Pick: S William Moore, Missouri

    29 New York Giants
    Needs: wr, te, s
    FA Acquisitions: DT Rocky Bernard; LB Michael Boley; S CC Brown; DE Chris Canty;
    FA Losses: FS James Butler; RB Derrick Ward
    Pick: WR Percy Harvin, Florida

    30 Tennessee Titans
    Needs: wr, dt, mlb
    FA Acquisitions: DT Jovan Haye; WR Nate Washington
    FA Losses: DT Albert Haynesworth; WR Brandon Jones; CB Eric King; OL Daniel Loper; QB Chris Simms
    Pick: DE Tyson Jackson, LSU

    31 Arizona Cardinals
    Needs: rb, ol, cb
    FA Acquisitions: S Keith Lewis; CB Bryant McFadden;
    FA Losses: RB JJ Arrington; DE Anthony Smith;
    Pick: RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia

    32 Pittsburgh Steelers
    Needs: ol,dl,cb
    FA Acquisitions: No Free Agent Acquisitions
    FA Losses: CB Bryant McFadden; S Anthony Smith; WR Nate Washington
    C/OL Max Unger, Oregon

    Round 2
    33 Detroit -
    S Louis Delmas, Western Michigan


    34 New England (from Kansas City)
    LB/TE Connor Barwin, Cincinnati


    35 St. Louis
    WR Kenny Britt, Rutgers

    36 Cleveland
    DE Larry English, Northern Illinois

    37 Seattle
    DE Aaron Maybin, Penn State

    38 Cincinnati
    C Alex Mack, California

    39 Jacksonville
    WR Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina

    40 Oakland
    DT Ron Brace, Boston College

    41 Green Bay
    OT Eben Britton, Arizona

    42 Buffalo
    OT Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma

    43 San Francisco
    OT William Beatty, Connecticut

    44 Miami (from Washington)
    S David Bruton, Notre Dame

    45 NY Giants (from New Orleans)
    CB DJ Moore, Vanderbilt

    46 Houston
    S Chip Vaughn, Wake Forest

    47 New England from (San Diego)
    C/OL Eric Wood, Louisville

    48 Denver
    DE Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech

    49 Chicago
    C/OL Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas

    50 Cleveland (from Tampa Bay)
    TE Jared Cook, South Carolina

    51 Dallas s/dl/ol/wr
    S Patrick Chung, Oregon

    52 NY Jets
    QB Josh Freeman, Kansas St

    53 Philadelphia
    RB Donald Brown, Connecticut

    54 Minnesota
    CB Sean Smith, Utah

    55 Atlanta
    OLB Cody Brown, Connecticut

    56 Miami
    DT Sen’Derrick Marks, Auburn

    57 Baltimore
    TE Shawn Nelson, Southern Miss

    58 New England
    DT Alex Magee, Purdue

    59 Carolina
    DT Fili Moala, USC

    60 NY Giants
    S Michael Hamlin, Clemson

    61 Indianapolis
    WR Louis Murphy, Florida

    62 Tennessee
    WR Brian Robiske, Ohio State

    63 Arizona
    DE Robert Ayers, Tennessee

    64 Pittsburgh
    CB Coye Francies, San Jose St


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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Welcome to the board Pape.

    Unlike quite alot of the fold, I don't see the terrible need at WR. A run oriented and play action offense.........I see the need for a big DT more bracing <pun intended>. I just can't see Spag and the FO passing on Brace if he's there.
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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Thanks richbert. I think that the WR selection was a knee-jerk reaction (on my part) to losing Holt.

    I am actually 50/50 on the first pick. If Detroit doesnt go off track and take Curry, I think Spags might have a real hard time passing up Curry in the #2 spot and forgo a tackle until round 2.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    SORRY i see plenty of flaws:

    - Jags wont take an MLB when they need an OT and WRs
    - Broncos won't take an UT like Jerry they would wait till round 2 and trade up for Brace
    -Oher wont go in front of Monroe
    -Monroe wont go to #20
    -Why would the Jets take an MLB when they signed Bart Scott?
    -Duke Robinson is not a 1st rounder
    -Why would the 9ers take Sanchez when they are intrested in Andre Smith
    -the Texans wont take Beanie, they just took Slaton last year
    -Beckwith is a 3rd rounder not 1st
    -Why would the Giants take Harvin over Britt? They did not decide on Plax yet.
    -William Moore is a 2nd rounder
    -Rams wont go Offense twice in a row
    -Maybin is a 1st rounder not 2nd
    -who is Conner Barwin and how is he an early 2nd rounder?
    -Eben Britton and Beatty wont last till the 2nd
    -Eric Wood and Luigs are late 2nds and early 3rds
    -Sean Smith is an early 2nd rounder
    -Robert Ayers in an early 2nd or late 1st
    -Alex mack will go in front of Max Unger
    -Nicks wont make it to the Jags in the 2nd
    -Why would Raiders take Ron Brace when they got Tommie Harris?
    -Panthers wont get Moala they got a NT
    - Where is Jarron Gilbert?
    -Patriots will get a LE to replace Seymour before NT.


    WOW thats alot

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Quote Originally Posted by BarronWade View Post
    -who is Conner Barwin and how is he an early 2nd rounder?
    The former tight end that moved to defensive end for the Bearcats. He's probably going to be a rush linebacker in the NFL, but he is projected to be a 2nd round pick.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Dont be sorry and thanks for the input Barrow. This is the 2nd mock one i've done (ever), so the comments are appreciated. Afterall, its a learning process for me.

    - granted, the rams most likely go offense in their first two picks. as Isaid earlier, i think there is a real chance they get Curry with the #2, then an OT.
    - Oher vs Monroe - Its opinion. I like Oher better, so he goes first in the mock.
    - Jets take Laurinitis because they have a limited linbacking corp. What else do they have besides scott and pace? Nobody.
    - Robinson isnt a 1st rounder? news to me... he's one of the bstter linemen out there imo.
    - the jags, after letting mike peterson go need linebackers. thats the reasoning for the pick.
    - beckwith - cant really argue with what you are saying.
    - slaton was good, well could be great, I see the need at rb for houston, so i made the pick.
    -Plax could (should) be going to jail. Harvin over because of speed, although britt does have a better height/speed ration than Harvin. Guess its just my anti-giant bias making that pick.
    - this is connor barwin:
    Connor Barwin | Cincinnati Scouting Report - 2009 NFL Draft Prospect
    why is he an early 2nd? i dunno. He looked like a good fit in new england.

    as for the rest, its really irrelevant if someone is a late or early 2nd rounder. I made picks based on what I perceived team needs to be and make picks accordingly. I do appreciate your input.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Personal opinion; Philly doesn't take Brandon Pettigrew. They have more dire needs, and I think that they have to focus on the running situation, and pick up a Star quality back because, let's face it, if Westbrook goes down, their offense shuts down. This said, I feel that they might also consider looking into the WR situation depending on who is on the board still.

    I actually see Pettigrew (amazing offensive talent in the receiving game as well as blocking, he excells in all parts of being a TE) slipping out of the first round, just based on the fact that TE's don't relatively make as much, and usually aren't something people stare at as a "glaring" need. Usually people look into the TE slot as a "we could definitely use a quality guy in that slot, but we've got chunks missing in our lines and secondary" or such. I potentially see him going to....the Rams in round 2 with the 35th.

    This is the only "offensive" pick I can see the Rams making if we were to make 2 offensive picks in a row. It would basically solidify the new offensive line, and at the same time, boost all three parts of the offense at once. Run block, pass protection, passing game. Pettigrew could definitely step in and balance out our lack of talent (developed talent) in the receiving game. We all look at the situation now and go, "We need a new WR, or we need to get a Free Agent, or blah blah." What if we get an amazing Tight End in there as a pimary target. This physically does work. And as Spags is a physical guy, it makes sense.

    We are going to see a focus on the running game. Essentially relating us to a power offense. Well, based on that, your passing is going to become a short distance passing game, and a big, physical, quick, and powerful TE could take over the field.

    For reference, teams that use a TE as a primary target are as follows;

    Dallas Cowboys - Jason Witten
    Kansas City Chiefs - Tony Gonzalez
    San Diego Chargers - Antonio Gates
    Indianapolis Colts - Dallas Clark
    Washington Redskins - Chris Cooley
    Houston Texans - Owen Daniels

    And you cannot deny that other TE's such as Heath Miller, Bo Scaife, Zach Miller, John Carlson, Jeremy Shockey, and Greg Olson open up so much more for the receiving by commanding the middle of the field, as well as being able to power through for extra yards that smaller guys aren't capable of doing so with.

    And last comment on this topic, we are terrible at scoring. Tight Ends are ridiculously important in the red zone (scoring zone) when it comes to having options besides "Let's run it up the middle". And for a TE with the size and vertical jumping ability that Pettigrew has shown at the combine, I think he would be a perfect fit to buffer all parts of our offense.

    The best part of a good defense is a good offense. The best part of a good offense is a good defense. (This may be contradictory, but it is true, both sides of the ball feed off each other. If you are scoring, your opponent MUST score. This situation can cause mistakes and forced plays which usually result in turnovers. If your opponent cannot score, than you are getting the offense back the ball, and hopefully in good field position) So, if we can help our run block, pass protection, and get a large receiver that has all the skills and quick route speed *check pettigrew's 20 yard shuttle* I say we should jump on it if he falls to it.

    Hmmmz...remember when everyone was spazzin bout Crabtree? Pettigrew basically could give us what Crabtree would have. Oh, wait, he blocks on the line and catches? Isn't that more useful? Oh, and wait... He didn't lie about his height? Oh, wait, Crabtree isn't an elite speed Receiver, I wonder which of the two of these guys would win in a race......... the world may never know.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Welcome to the board, Pape! It's great to have more input

    Quote Originally Posted by Pape View Post
    - granted, the rams most likely go offense in their first two picks. as Isaid earlier, i think there is a real chance they get Curry with the #2, then an OT.
    If there's one available that's worth the #35 pick. I don't think there will be. I think there's a real chance the Rams could go Offense with their first 2 picks. WR is probably just as great a need as MLB and NT, so I totally get where you're coming from on that one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pape
    - Oher vs Monroe - Its opinion. I like Oher better, so he goes first in the mock.
    It IS opinion, but the consensus opinion of scouts, experts and amateurs alike is that Monroe is the better player.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pape
    - Jets take Laurinitis because they have a limited linbacking corp. What else do they have besides scott and pace? Nobody.
    Vernon Gholston? I think the Jets have more pressing needs. If Jeremy Maclin's there, they take him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pape
    - Robinson isnt a 1st rounder? news to me... he's one of the bstter linemen out there imo.
    Again, consensus is that he's not a first rounder and certainly not a first rounder at Right Tackle like you've projected.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pape
    - the jags, after letting mike peterson go need linebackers. thats the reasoning for the pick.
    There are better players available there. Look for them to go with Maclin or Oher and come back with a LB in the second or third, where there could be substantially better value.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pape
    - slaton was good, well could be great, I see the need at rb for houston, so i made the pick.
    With you on this one, though I think Maclin, Cushing and Davis probably are better choices.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pape
    -Plax could (should) be going to jail. Harvin over because of speed, although britt does have a better height/speed ration than Harvin. Guess its just my anti-giant bias making that pick.
    Britt could be another coming of Burress, without the legal drama. He'd be exactly what I'd be looking at if I were a Giants fan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pape
    as for the rest, its really irrelevant if someone is a late or early 2nd rounder. I made picks based on what I perceived team needs to be and make picks accordingly. I do appreciate your input.
    I think when you're mocking, especially for other teams, It's important to have one foot in both bathtubs. One foot knowing what teams need, and the other with a grasp on adequate value-- and I do think there's a distinction between 'early' and 'late' second round pick for a reason. Generally, picks from about 20-35(you can make it 40 in this draft) or so are considered the same 'tyoe' of player, meaning they all grade out fairly evenly. Point is, if you're letting one foot dictate, and the other's stopped still, you're going to end up going round in circles.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Bar-bq, great response, thanks.

    nice, concise and well reasoned and non-condesending. appreciate it much

    I follow the game rather closely, but as a rule have always stayed away form the college game and the draft, figuring there was way too much information to collect and coalesce. But over the past few years, with the growing prominence of the draft, I figured I might figure out how to put a mock together. Last year I made a single first round draft. This year, I want to get thru four rounds. So the critism/advice that you guys provide helps me expand my thinking when it comes to analyzing potential picks.

    The mock is by no means static. I intend to revamp/redo/edit this ever growing monster, especially when teams make more deals, add/release more players (like the raiders signing khalif barnes today) and we get more feed back from college pro days. I would also like to add some trades to the mix. Teams like Philly, Detroit and New England all have multiple first day picks, so them moving some of them is a big possibility.

    Look forward to your input after Mock 2.0 is done.

    edit:
    as to the Jets, vernon Gholston is exactly why I think the Jets might might be in the market for another linebacker. The guy is a bust.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Pape View Post
    Look forward to your input after Mock 2.0 is done.

    edit:
    as to the Jets, vernon Gholston is exactly why I think the Jets might might be in the market for another linebacker. The guy is a bust.
    Me too.

    It's too early to judge on Gholston. A lot of pundits said the same thing about Mario Williams after his first season.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Vernon was getting shoved into a new defensive scheme that he didn't play in at tOSU. Giving him the behefit of the doubt for that, and his incredible physical abilities, I believe that you would be better to wait until his second -> third seasons to decide whether you believe him to be a bust.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    Quote Originally Posted by Bar-bq View Post
    Me too.

    It's too early to judge on Gholston. A lot of pundits said the same thing about Mario Williams after his first season.
    Quote Originally Posted by A-Web View Post
    Vernon was getting shoved into a new defensive scheme that he didn't play in at tOSU. Giving him the behefit of the doubt for that, and his incredible physical abilities, I believe that you would be better to wait until his second -> third seasons to decide whether you believe him to be a bust.

    Gholston, #10 pick (i think) overall last year - 13 tackles in 15 games. He sat out a game as a healthy scratch. Williams started slow in his first year but still managed 47 tackles and 4.5 sacks. Big difference between the two. Gholston just disappeared on the field. Maybe I am a bit too early to declare him a bust, but if he is isn't one, he is damn close.

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    Re: 2009 Mock Draft, 2 rounds

    I wouldn't mind if rams gave a 3rd round pick for Golston. The rams could use another DE. Jets are using him as a standup LB. Long and Golston at the DE positions sounds good to me.
    This might be L. Little's last year.
    Last edited by Shan the Ram Man; -03-17-2009 at 05:16 PM.

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