One question would you rather have Lloyd or Givens on the Rams to move forward?
Originally Posted by Nick
Now, turn the discussion so that we're talking about (1) a more talented veteran and (2) a better offensive system, and I'm just not sure how anyone can say with confidence that they can't see a veteran being much more productive. I see it as a definite possibility among numerous possibilities.
It's the much more part I'm looking at? Define that, is it 300 more yards three more TDs? Does it make sense pay a huge contract to get an extra yards and a few TD when that money can we spent on a offensive line that desperately needs to be upgraded.
I'm not so sure if you ask Bradford do you want another option at receiver or another vet pro bowl linemen he would take a receiver.
And even if they're evenly matched and equally productive, I'd love TWO capable starting receivers who can do damage to a defense! I'm sure Bradford would as well.
Look it up, you tell me how many snap he was getting in the first four games and how many times he was targeted vs game 5 and on. I say he has been on the field more and has been targeted more after week four.
Givens was getting 40+ snaps back in Week Four or Five; it's not very accurate to suggest his snap count has drastically increased since the first quarter of the season.
- Fisher is pleased with the continued evolution of rookie WR Chris Givens. Givens is now getting more involved than just running deep go routes. Yes, he caught one for a touchdown on Sunday but he also caught a tunnel screen that he turned into a big gain and ran a few other routes that yielded big plays.
I can't imagine in his first few games he would come in and tell Bradford hey I got a rookie on me lets take a shot. In week 11 he did. For you to say he has had a few good moments is really understating what he is doing IMO.
- WR Chris Givens continues to evolve before our eyes. Yes, he scored his TD on a go-route, a play that he recognized he was being covered by converted S Justin Bethel and asked for the ball in advance but he also continues to find other ways to be involved. His line for the day included 5 catches for 115 yards, the first 100-yard game of his career
I have suggested that we take the cash and upgrade the O line, draft another receiver in round one and draft TE Tyler Eifert also in round one. So I think I also would like to have a dangerous offense. Or at least a productive one.
To have two and an even more dangerous offense for a change?
Who is to say he will not have to play with a back up here at times. I don't want to make this about Wallace, but Wallace does play with the one QB that can extend a play due to his ability and then take the deep shot. Wallace may be benefiting from that at times.
You're phrasing the question in a very black and white manner when there's plenty of nuance, considering all of the factors. One being that Wallace has played the last two and a half games without his starting quarterback, for instance.
Why is it strange... I started this thread by saying...
Additionally, it seems a bit strange to see you arguing against the acquisition of a FA veteran receiver when as recently as a week ago you were still pining over Greg Jennings.
I'm, starting to really think Givens can be as good or better then any FA receiver we can get.
The title of the thread is All I'm saying is after looking at how well Givens is playing maybe we don't need to use all that cash on a FA receiver. Maybe we can upgrade the O line and draft more young talent.
The season is not over so I'm going to evaluate the play of the team as a whole and after week 11, I'm looking at other options. Talk to me after week 16 and i will have a clearer picture of what I think we should do or could do... I may be back to go get Jennings if Givens fades... I may be back to go gets a LT if Saffold get hurt again.
Me either LOL
Yeah, I really have no clue what you're getting at here, sorry.