View Poll Results: Best TE likely to fall to the 4th round?

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  • Aaron Hernandez

    6 11.54%
  • Ed Dickson

    4 7.69%
  • Anthony McCoy

    3 5.77%
  • Jimmy Graham

    20 38.46%
  • Dennis Pitta

    9 17.31%
  • Dorin Dickerson

    7 13.46%
  • None/Other

    3 5.77%
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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    I am not that impressed with the WR this yr and think a good pass catching TE can really save a new QB. So I think we should try and address TE earlier then the 4th rd. Even the second rd depending on who is available. I would feel real good taking Pitta with the 3rd rd pick.


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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    After missing out on Marshall (yes, we should have offered our 2nd). I think we should offer a 4th for Scheffler, and that's why Scheffler is best TE available in the 4th round.

    Decent TE depth in this draft though making the decision tough, Scheffler signed today and will probably be traded by the weekend.

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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    I'm really sold on the idea of drafting Dorin Dickerson as a WR. He is 6-2, runs a 4.40, and is 226lbs. He is a mismatch anywhere you put him. He's too fast for LB's, and too big for CB's. Just gotta use some imagination ppl... the best TE's weren't known for their blocking ability you know...

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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    Quote Originally Posted by The Optimistic Lamb View Post
    I'm really sold on the idea of drafting Dorin Dickerson as a WR. He is 6-2, runs a 4.40, and is 226lbs. He is a mismatch anywhere you put him. He's too fast for LB's, and too big for CB's. Just gotta use some imagination ppl... the best TE's weren't known for their blocking ability you know...
    That's not a TE. That's a WR pretending to be a TE. I don't see how we could draft that guy to be our #1 TE.

    It's Pitta if he lasts because many of those other guys definitely won't.

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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramzee View Post
    That's not a TE. That's a WR pretending to be a TE. I don't see how we could draft that guy to be our #1 TE.

    It's Pitta if he lasts because many of those other guys definitely won't.
    I'm not looking for one TE to do it all, instead I'm thinking of the best combination. Bajema to block, Fells for redzone situations, Dickerson for the deep threat.

    It's not about one player, its the sum of all parts.

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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    Quote Originally Posted by The Optimistic Lamb View Post
    I'm not looking for one TE to do it all, instead I'm thinking of the best combination. Bajema to block, Fells for redzone situations, Dickerson for the deep threat.

    It's not about one player, its the sum of all parts.
    Well it is about balance. Nearly every team (if not all of them) out there has a blocking specialist (ours is Bajema). Most starting TE's while they may excel at the pass receiving aspect of the offense, still need to be capable blockers or they aren't going to be seeing the field very often. Especially on a team like ours where the O-Line is less capable and still requires help from the TE position. Witten on Dallas is a great example of what a TE should be. Tremendous receiving option and very capable blocker. That's what a balanced starting TE should be. That certainly doesn't describe Fells and we're looking at upgrading him.

    You trot Dorin Dickerson on the field, there is no more blocking threat in respect to the defense. You already know that guy is going to go out for a pass and if for some reason you were to leave him back to block, you can expect him to get abused by an NFL caliber DE. Not only that but this guy isn't even the typical size for a TE. He's a very undersized TE that doesn't nearly give you the match up problems you described. He's more like a poor man's WR, pretending to be a TE.

    So we'd have a blocking specialist in Bajema, a pure receiver in Dickerson and that would leave Fells as our all around balanced TE option? I'd still see that position as a great position of weakness. There are much better TE options available imo.
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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramzee View Post
    Well it is about balance. Nearly every team (if not all of them) out there has a blocking specialist (ours is Bajema). Most starting TE's while they may excel at the pass receiving aspect of the offense, still need to be capable blockers or they aren't going to be seeing the field very often. Especially on a team like ours where the O-Line is less capable and still requires help from the TE position. Witten on Dallas is a great example of what a TE should be. Tremendous receiving option and very capable blocker. That's what a balanced starting TE should be. That certainly doesn't describe Fells and we're looking at upgrading him.

    You trot Dorin Dickerson on the field, there is no more blocking threat in respect to the defense. You already know that guy is going to go out for a pass and if for some reason you were to leave him back to block, you can expect him to get abused by an NFL caliber DE. Not only that but this guy isn't even the typical size for a TE. He's a very undersized TE that doesn't nearly give you the match up problems you described. He's more like a poor man's WR, pretending to be a TE.

    So we'd have a blocking specialist in Bajema, a pure receiver in Dickerson and that would leave Fells as our all around balanced TE option? I'd still see that position as a great position of weakness. There are much better TE options available imo.
    Did you not read my posts where I repeatedly state I would draft Dorin Dickerson as a WR?

    6-2, 226lbs, and runs a 4.4. Great hands. Dorin Dickerson has lots in common with Dez Bryant, except he doesnt have an attitude and he's faster. Of course he can't stay back to block on the line, thats not his natural position.

    If you utilize Dickerson as a WR, I'm saying this could become an awesome steal in the 3rd round. Theres a reason Mike Mayock has Dickerson as the 3rd best TE in the draft.

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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    Quote Originally Posted by The Optimistic Lamb View Post
    Did you not read my posts where I repeatedly state I would draft Dorin Dickerson as a WR?

    6-2, 226lbs, and runs a 4.4. Great hands. Dorin Dickerson has lots in common with Dez Bryant, except he doesnt have an attitude and he's faster. Of course he can't stay back to block on the line, thats not his natural position.

    If you utilize Dickerson as a WR, I'm saying this could become an awesome steal in the 3rd round. Theres a reason Mike Mayock has Dickerson as the 3rd best TE in the draft.
    Yeah I caught that and I'm pretty sure I agreed too, calling him a WR that was posing as a TE.

    This is a TE poll however and this post here is in no way implying him to be a WR:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Optimistic Lamb
    I'm not looking for one TE to do it all, instead I'm thinking of the best combination. Bajema to block, Fells for redzone situations, Dickerson for the deep threat.

    It's not about one player, its the sum of all parts.
    Nice try though.

    Last but not least. The Rams need to *stop* drafting conversion type players. Not get more of them. Especially unproven ones. The time for the failed experiments is over. You ever heard the saying, "Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it"? Yeah, no more. Maybe once they draft some prospects that actually pan out we can return to this flawed line of thinking but until then, no way Jose.

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    Re: Best TE in the 4th Round

    I might be saying this jsut because he is a local boy, but I am very interested in Clay Harbor. Although workout warriors usually scream "BUST!", I still like his potential.

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