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    Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    I'm starting to think that the Rams best option at pick 33 may be a RB. At this point, I think there is one certain first rounder among the RBs (C.J. Spiller) and one likely mid-to-late first rounder (Ryan Matthews).

    The rest of the crop may very well still be there at pick 33. This includes Jahvid Best, Jonathan Dwyer, Toby Gerhart, Joe McNight, Montario Hardesty and Ben Tate.

    Best and Dwyer definitely intrigue me. Best, who ran a 4.35 at the Combine, would give the Rams a home run threat to compliment Steven Jackson. Dwyer would give the Rams a backup workhorse who could carry the load if Jackson ever needs to sit a game or two.

    From a need standpoint, there might be better options. However, from a BPA standpoint, RB could be the position to watch.


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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    Agreed. It seems more and more names are standing out as candidates for this area of the draft, and it's definitely an area of need for us now. With just about every team adapting a two back system, we'll need to grab one before they're picked clean.

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    Yea i had Jahvid Best in one of my mocks earlier becasue he was that home run threat and Change of pace back to action jackson. BUT i dont think we should use the 2nd on a running back anymore.

    As you touched on it it is not a huge need. Also the past few years teams have found quality back ups in the middle rounds look at shonne Greene last year. Lendel White was a 3rd rounder.

    I think a 3rd or a 4th on a runningback would be good because it seems like RB is becoming an easy position to fill across the league.

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    I really like waiting and trying to get Dexter McCluster later on. I think this guy is a home run threat, change of pace that will be a star in this league

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    Lendale white was a second rounder, a high second rounder at that, but i do agree generally that good backs can be found in later rounds. But jahvid best if he's there is AWFULLY tempting and the only guy Id rather see us get there is Weatherspoon, Graham, or Griffen (who I thought highly of before and has affirmed my belief in him at the combine.)

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    Of the names you've listed, I think Best and Dwyer (assuming Matthews is gone) could be options at the top of the second round in terms of both value and need. Gerhart, McNight, Hardesty, and Tate strike me as guys you'd watch for if they make it to the top of the third.

    I think you're right in that Best and Dwyer will likely appeal to the Rams for different reasons. One other area the Rams will likely consider when picking a #2 'back is how well they contribute in pass protection. Dwyer might have the edge there.
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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    Weatherspoon all but cemented his status as a first rounder with his combine performance this week methinks.

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    I think that McCluster will be a huge steal if we get him in the third. He is a monster and a playmaker. He has game changing ability and the kind of spark we need for our offense and maybe even special teams. Danny Amendola didn't do too good this year in KR/PR.

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post

    Best and Dwyer definitely intrigue me. Best, who ran a 4.35 at the Combine, would give the Rams a home run threat to compliment Steven Jackson. Dwyer would give the Rams a backup workhorse who could carry the load if Jackson ever needs to sit a game or two.
    I think that Jhavid Best would be a great pick if available at pick 33. He reminds me a lot of Dallas' Felix Jones, who when he wasn't injured, was averaging around 6 YPC last season. Best would get limited reps, but did really well behind Alex Mack in the California O in '09 and continued to show a good burst this past season for the Golden Bears. I think he'd be an ideal change of pace back for Jackson and if he were the BPA and (I must stress) proven healthy, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger. That's regardless of whosoever we take in the first round.

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    The 2nd pick (and the perceived value in the following round or two -- with the draft in motion) will be interesting. I wouldn't be surprised with any of the following: QB, HB, TE, WR, OL, DL, LB, S


    Wish we had more picks in the 2nd/3rd rounds... How many could we get for #1 straight up? (kidding) Will be several nice prospects at each of those positions available at 33, in my opinion.

    I'd crap if Mathews fell to Friday.

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    "Best value in Second Round may be Best"

    Haha, couldn't resist. Serisously though, if either of those guys is there, I hope we give them a really hard look. I prefer Dwyer, but like both quite a bit (best - concussion)

    edit: any chance the low reps on the bench move Dwyer down some teams list? I imagine the SuperChargers will give both a look late in the 1st. Perhaps Pats Or Houston... don't see how at least one of them isn't still available.
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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    I wouldn't howl if the 2nd pick was a RB. We need talent. Period.

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    Quote Originally Posted by #39 Fan View Post
    "Best value in Second Round may be Best"

    Haha, couldn't resist. Serisously though, if either of those guys is there, I hope we give them a really hard look. I prefer Dwyer, but like both quite a bit (best - concussion)

    edit: any chance the low reps on the bench move Dwyer down some teams list? I imagine the SuperChargers will give both a look late in the 1st. Perhaps Pats Or Houston... don't see how at least one of them isn't still available.
    I think that the Texans could look in a number of ways. Firstly, they could look to address their DT position. Amobi Okoye has done next to nothing and Travis Johnson was traded last year. They need someone to fill the hole both at NT and UT in their 4-3 scheme. They could also look to the secondary- Obviously the best corner in the class, Joe Haden, will be long gone and they might have to look elsewhere to fill the void if Dunta Robinson leaves, but it might finally be time for them to address the safety position with a Taylor Mays. With that said, if CJ spiller falls into their laps, he's going to be hard to pass on. If he's hands down best value by the time they pick, I don't doubt that he'll be the choice. If he's selected earlier, they could look to target Matthews, but I'm not sure he's worth that high a pick at this point.

    I could really see the Pats being active in trying to acquire a RB, whoever happens to be their 'guy'. If Spiller falls into the 16-20 range, I would expect them to try to trade up. Otherwise Matthews will get a hard look at 23 and I would not be surprised to see them reach for Best or Dwyer if they think they can make either of them work in their system.

    It's the same story for the Chargers. They'd love Spiller to fall into their laps but I personally can't see it. I think their choice is going to come down to Matthews and potentially Dwyer. They're going to be looking for a successor to LT, not just a 3rd down runner in the mould of Sproles, who they could have back anyway. Best, to me, symbolises a breakaway threat, not necessarily an every down back, which is what San Diego will eventually be searching for.

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    I don't agree with this at all (what a surprise right, lol!)

    1. I don't think this is a great class for running backs.

    2. The difference between a round 2 rb and a round 3 RB for our selection isn't that much

    3. The difference between a round 2 DT/WR/DE/QB/OLB and a round 3 DT/WR/DE/QB/OLB is much greater.

    4. Running backs are made after the lines are solid. We can wait til later or pick one up in free agency.

    5. Unless its a hyrid Tate/Dexter type he won't get on the field but 20% of the time tops anyway.



    pass on round 2 RB

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    Re: Best value at top of 2nd may be at RB

    I would jump on the following guys in round 2 in order (Matthews, Best)(I'd like to go on the record that Matthews will be a STAR in the league)

    Otherwise I would wait for round 3 and jump on the following guys, again in order (Hardesty, Tate)

    Personally, I'm not a big fan of Dwyer, but I'm probably in the minority on that one.

    And I disagree with you rich, I think this is an at minimum an above average year for Rbs.

    Also, I think our formula for success as a whole is to get another premium running back to team with Jackson, do our best to make our D a top five defensive team (Suh would help there), and pound the ball on the ground as much as possible (i.e. Jets, Ravens).
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