View Poll Results: What is your philosophy?

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    12 63.16%
  • Talent

    7 36.84%
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    Re: Character Vs. Talent

    I believe thats what were trying to do now get talented players with good character

    nobody wants their team to 1-15 every year
    I personally dont want to bring in a bunch of guys
    with problems, character issues whatever you want
    to call it just to win games

    I believe we can do that drafting, picking up fa
    who have some talent(its the NFL they have to have some)
    & good character

    by saying 14-2 with issues or 1-15 with character you put a guy on the fence just choose one I choose character over talent
    doesnt mean you dont have to have talent just have
    get it with the right guys

    that being said were all human everybody makes mistakes
    but to go and pick ones you know have issues because their
    talented we both want the rams to win just different oppinions how to get their


    14-2 1-15 thing might be from your other thread same topic basically


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    Re: Character Vs. Talent

    Quote Originally Posted by chancelandusa View Post
    I believe thats what were trying to do now get talented players with good character

    nobody wants their team to 1-15 every year
    I personally dont want to bring in a bunch of guys
    with problems, character issues whatever you want
    to call it just to win games

    I believe we can do that drafting, picking up fa
    who have some talent(its the NFL they have to have some)
    & good character

    by saying 14-2 with issues or 1-15 with character you put a guy on the fence just choose one I choose character over talent
    doesnt mean you dont have to have talent just have
    get it with the right guys

    that being said were all human everybody makes mistakes
    but to go and pick ones you know have issues because their
    talented we both want the rams to win just different oppinions how to get their


    14-2 1-15 thing might be from your other thread same topic basically

    Couldn't have put it any better myself.

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    Re: Character Vs. Talent

    Quote Originally Posted by AvengerRam View Post
    Its not an either/or proposition.

    You need to have talented players. There's no debate there. The ideal player is someone like Kurt Warner, Isaac Bruce or Aeneas Williams - guys with great talent and character traits.

    Marshall is a more intriguing situation. He's young and in his prime, so he woud be an asset. The question is... is he a guy you can rely on and build around. I have my doubts (NOTE: Living in the Orlando area, I am probably exposed to more news about Marshall than most).
    The gray area appears to be whether or not a talented player who is deemed to have character issues will respond to a strong mentor, be it a coach, or a veteran player. There have been guys with documented character issues who've gone on to turn things around and become solid contributors for their respective teams. (Chris Carter of the Vikings comes to mind). The problem for head coaches and GMs is figuring out who will respond to mentoring and who won't. Great talent is easily trumped by immaturity, but maturity can be coached too, if the player is willing. The choice is easy when you have the opportunity to draft a guy who has both, but when a guy with truly stellar talent but questionable character is there for the taking, GMs must decide whether he will respond well to being coached up character wise.

    Chris Carter the former Vikes receiver come to mind. Chris really got himself in hot water in his junior year at school, to the extent he was prosecuted and plead guilty to defrauding his school, subsequently losing his senior year of elgibility. By the time he was sentenced, Carter was chosen in the fourth round of the 1987 supplemental draft by the Philadelphia Eagles. He was jettisoned by Buddy Ryan after three mediocre seasons and was claimed off waivers by the Vikings where he really turned his life around, and eventually became a mentor for the young rookie Randy Moss.

    I've no idea whether Brandon Marshall would make the most of a change in scenery, but Spags and Billy likely do ...

    With regard to the poll question: Character vs Talent, my vote is for both .. You need both in ample quantities to build a successful NFL team.

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    Re: Character Vs. Talent

    Bottom line: Its a team sport.

    Players who put the team first and have high work ethic make superbowl caliber teams. C players who live and die for each other are more powerful together than a helter skelter assortment of A+ playmakers playing for money. Take a lesson from the Marine Core.
    Last edited by The Optimistic Lamb; -04-03-2010 at 03:44 PM.

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    Re: Character Vs. Talent

    Quote Originally Posted by RamsSB99 View Post
    Seriously I don't know how anyone could vote for character over talent if its an either or. If its an either or and you are a true football fan then you would have to go for the talent IMO. We had a fairly high character team last year and we won 1 game. In an either or scenario like this which would you rather have your team you root for be a team that wins 1 game all year or a team that goes 14-2 goes to the playoffs and is extremly talented but has character issues. Talent wins games character is no good without talent.
    But talent is no good to you if it is suspended.
    "Before the gates of excellence the high gods have placed sweat; long is the road thereto and rough and steep at first; but when the heights are reached, then there is ease, though grievously hard in the winning." --- Hesiod

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